Massive Devaluation? Effective 10 June
#46
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: LHR / LCY / DXB
Programs: QR Silver / BA Silver
Posts: 324
I am confused about lounge access - that's standard for all OW except for maybe a few exclusive tier program in their own airline (QF Chairman's Lounge come to mind). OWS gets J class lounge and OWE gets F class lounge (and soon AA allows OWS/J in Flagship too). MH KUL lounges aren't great but that has nothing to do with Enrich.
Redemptions have been of great value before (a few years back) when a one-way KUL-LHR J ticket costs only 27,500 miles with the 50% off promo
Redemptions have been of great value before (a few years back) when a one-way KUL-LHR J ticket costs only 27,500 miles with the 50% off promo
Interesting fact about the redemption promotions - admittedly I'm relatively new to the miles & points. Learnt something new today
#48
Join Date: Jun 2007
Programs: SQ AA TK
Posts: 1,438
Feeling smart for dumping Enrich after the previous devaluation. That being said, I think I already got my fair share out of them. Those 5 27.5K KL-EUROPE J redemption during their amazing 50% off redemption and another 5 standard 47.5K Europe J redemption.
Happy at Aadvantage now, after 4 consecutive years of being Gold at Enrich. They gave me a year of Gold for free even after clocking 0EQM, but was smart enough not to go back to them.
Happy at Aadvantage now, after 4 consecutive years of being Gold at Enrich. They gave me a year of Gold for free even after clocking 0EQM, but was smart enough not to go back to them.
#49
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: MH Gold, AC Super Elite, UA Platinum, Accor All Gold, Marriott Titanium Elite
Posts: 497
I live in KL. Multiple LHR-KL trips in a year, mostly in cattle class (Y). By all means, go for QRPC over Enrich. Enrich has never been valuable, the golden lounges can't compare to that of most other airlines (though I speak from limited Asian lounge experience), and redemptions have never been valuable either. You get very poor return for your loyalty to MH.
One thing to note is that if you want to fulfil the sector requirement for QRPC membership/renewal you'd almost definitely need to fly Asia-EU/similar long haul routes, and you're almost always going to be transiting in DOH. Very important to consider this as it will impact how easily you can retain status for.
Feel free to ask me anything if you'd like, I've been with Qatar for almost 3 years and am well satisfied with what they
One thing to note is that if you want to fulfil the sector requirement for QRPC membership/renewal you'd almost definitely need to fly Asia-EU/similar long haul routes, and you're almost always going to be transiting in DOH. Very important to consider this as it will impact how easily you can retain status for.
Feel free to ask me anything if you'd like, I've been with Qatar for almost 3 years and am well satisfied with what they
#50
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indonesia
Posts: 361
yes, it's not interchangable; yes it's not correct use... but a lot of Southeast Asian call 'em that way
#52
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Kuching, Malaysia. Perth, Australia.
Programs: MH-Plat OWE, HH-Diamond, SPG-Plat, MR-Plat, IHG-PlatAmb
Posts: 155
I suppose I'm one of the minorities then.
#53
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: LHR / LCY / DXB
Programs: QR Silver / BA Silver
Posts: 324
Thank you very much for your answer! I did check the redemption tables from Qatar but was rather unpleasantly surprised to see the values are even worse than the Enrich rates, or did I totally misunderstand? How beneficial do you feel the Qatar program is in this regard?
The summary is that it does take some initial 'investment' to reach a level where your mile accrual picks up, but once you've reached that point you'll find that your miles just keep coming, along with the extra Qcredits, which is an added benefit. Had I credited my QR flights to MH I would not have as many miles as I currently do.
Also, this is slightly unrelated to the airline programme, but Qatar has consistently had crazy fares since I've started travelling this frequently. Earlier in March I purchased LHR-KUL-LHR return in Y (lowest fare bucket) and it priced at 320GBP, never could've thought KL-London could be had for less than RM1800! My new record so far.
#54
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: MH Gold, AC Super Elite, UA Platinum, Accor All Gold, Marriott Titanium Elite
Posts: 497
Qatar has frequent miles promotions (i.e. 2x, 3x, as much as 5x miles) that most of my bookings are usually earning way more. Also, the many fare buckets available may seem confusing at first glance, but once you do a little more calculation, you may find some hidden deals. If you fly J a lot, you rack up miles together with these promotions very quickly, and at QR Gold (OW Sapphire) you get mileage bonuses and 40 Qcredits every year to spend on award flights/upgrades.
The summary is that it does take some initial 'investment' to reach a level where your mile accrual picks up, but once you've reached that point you'll find that your miles just keep coming, along with the extra Qcredits, which is an added benefit. Had I credited my QR flights to MH I would not have as many miles as I currently do.
Also, this is slightly unrelated to the airline programme, but Qatar has consistently had crazy fares since I've started travelling this frequently. Earlier in March I purchased LHR-KUL-LHR return in Y (lowest fare bucket) and it priced at 320GBP, never could've thought KL-London could be had for less than RM1800! My new record so far.
The summary is that it does take some initial 'investment' to reach a level where your mile accrual picks up, but once you've reached that point you'll find that your miles just keep coming, along with the extra Qcredits, which is an added benefit. Had I credited my QR flights to MH I would not have as many miles as I currently do.
Also, this is slightly unrelated to the airline programme, but Qatar has consistently had crazy fares since I've started travelling this frequently. Earlier in March I purchased LHR-KUL-LHR return in Y (lowest fare bucket) and it priced at 320GBP, never could've thought KL-London could be had for less than RM1800! My new record so far.
#55
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Middle Earth, and often worse
Programs: BAEC Silver, A3 Gold
Posts: 2,216
I stopped reading at #15 and am not interested in reading another 3 pages as I am a BAEC member. Thus, I am asking this question:
In late August I am flying KUL-HAN in Business class. The printout states:
MALAYSIAN AIRLINE BERHAD DBA M 752 Z AIRCRAFT-738 / NONSTOP / MEAL
Is this Z Business class? If so, how many BAEC miles and Tier Points should I get with the devaluation.
Same for the return HAN-KUL, also in Business class:
MON 04SEP 17
MALAYSIAN AIRLINE BERHAD DBA M 753 D AIRCRAFT-738 / NONSTOP / MEAL
I am not an Enrich member (only BAEC) so all award miles and Tier Points go to them when flying OW carriers. Will the MH devaluation affect the BAEC tables that I use to indicate miles and TPs for my On World flights? OOOpppsss! More than 1 question. My wrist should be slapped
Thanks in advance.
In late August I am flying KUL-HAN in Business class. The printout states:
MALAYSIAN AIRLINE BERHAD DBA M 752 Z AIRCRAFT-738 / NONSTOP / MEAL
Is this Z Business class? If so, how many BAEC miles and Tier Points should I get with the devaluation.
Same for the return HAN-KUL, also in Business class:
MON 04SEP 17
MALAYSIAN AIRLINE BERHAD DBA M 753 D AIRCRAFT-738 / NONSTOP / MEAL
I am not an Enrich member (only BAEC) so all award miles and Tier Points go to them when flying OW carriers. Will the MH devaluation affect the BAEC tables that I use to indicate miles and TPs for my On World flights? OOOpppsss! More than 1 question. My wrist should be slapped
Thanks in advance.
#57
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Middle Earth, and often worse
Programs: BAEC Silver, A3 Gold
Posts: 2,216
@tmac100 this only affects enrich earning. Earning to BA is unchanged and any questions about earning to Ba program should be directed to the BA forum.
Nevertheless, I still look forward to flying MH occasionally ^ as their flights are generally quite comfortable - from past experience of 4 flights (domestic and int'l).
#59
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Middle Earth, and often worse
Programs: BAEC Silver, A3 Gold
Posts: 2,216
@tmac100.... 12 years and no learning?
Explain svp
We all await what you mean by this comment - for clarification of course. I do not make a practice of reading between the lines of world-wide contributors. I just take the comments for what they are - anonymous responses..... and usually honest ones.
However I wonder what the 12 years has to do with my question? I do know no one on this thread (or elsewhere on FT) is all-knowing/omnipotent. Furthermore, why have FT if we are all all-knowing/omnipotent?
No matter. I see malevolence exists here on this MH forum - as elsewhere on FT.
That said there are still caring individuals who do give thoughtful comments and useful information - instead of thinly veiled malevolent comments. Thank you to the thoughtful ones, and to those who suffer from malevolence, perhaps a prescription pharmaceutical can help you when reading FT threads.
Peaceful times and happy reading
Last edited by tmac100; May 28, 2017 at 2:42 pm
#60
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Here
Posts: 1,907
I stopped reading at #15 and am not interested in reading another 3 pages as I am a BAEC member.
We can go into the whys and wherefores about what constitutes a reasonable or unreasonable question. I suspect we will agree to disagree.