MHUpgrade option, anyone tried it?

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MHUPGRADE SUCCESSFUL UPGRADE OFFER PRICES
(origin - destination, offer price accepted, post #)

ECONOMY to BUSINESS
KUL - ADL SGD250 #203
KUL - AKL USD325 #447
KUL - BKK SGD80 #70
KUL - BKK USD65 #450
KUL - CAN MYR345 #358
KUL - CMB MYR576 #686
KUL - CGK USD60 #153
KUL - CGK MYR220 #230
KUL - DAC MYR551 #112
KUL - DPS SGD80 #70
KUL - DPS AUD75 #114
KUL - HAN AUD90 #209
KUL - HKG MYR480 #393
KUL - HKT USD50
KUL - HYD GBP90 #54
KUL - HYD USD90 #452
KUL - ICN SGD140
KUL - ICN MYR402 #343
KUL - ICN EUR120 #354
KUL - KIX MYR452 #472
KUL - KUA MYR143 #349
KUL - KCH MYR150 #287
KUL - LGK MYR263 #505
KUL - LHR MYR3,350 #67
KUL - MEL MYR1,005 #262
KUL - MEL MYR1300
KUL - PEK MYR345 #338
KUL - PEN MYR170 #268
KUL - PER GBP135 #309
KUL - PER USD150 #335
KUL - PER MYR524 #336
KUL - PNH MYR200 #404
KUL - PVG SGD120 #30, 225
KUL - PVG USD105 #169, 217
KUL - REP MYR150 #123
KUL - RGN MYR305 #333
KUL - SGN MYR210 #141
KUL - SIN MYR30 #52
KUL - SIN SGD50 #267
KUL - SYD SGD300 #267

AMS - KUL GBP450 #152
BKK - KUL GBP80 #54
BKK - KUL USD65 #452
BNE - KUL AUD215 #2
BWN - KUL USD60 #394
CAN - KUL MYR350 #358
DAC - KUL USD120 #479
DPS - KUL AUD70 #121
DPS - KUL USD60 #216
DXB - KUL USD200
HKG - KUL SGD120 #53
HKG - KUL HKD810 #266
HKG - KUL HKD805 #290
HKT - KUL MYR30 #52
HKT - KUL NZD55 #447
HYD - KUL USD90 #450
ICN - KUL SGD140
JHB - KUL MYR100
KIX - KUL MYR452 #445
KCH - BKI MYR200 #344
KCH - KUL MYR150 #287
LGK - KUL GBP20 #44
LGK - KUL MYR263 #505
MAA - KUL SGD125 #163
MEL - KUL AUD230 #1
MEL - KUL AUD305 #140
MEL - KUL AUD480 #16
MEL - KUL AUD400 #312
MEL - KUL MYR1,300 #312
MNL - KUL USD140 #482
MYY - KUL MYR270 #715
PEK - KUL MYR500 #323
PEK - KUL GBP80 #332
PEK - KUL MYR345 #340
PER - KUL USD160 #350
PVG - KUL USD105 #167
REP - KUL USD45 #334
RGN - KUL USD65 #506
SDK - KUL MYR150 #154
SGN - KUL MYR200 #141
SIN - KUL SGD85 #213
SIN - KUL SGD50 #267
SYD - KUL AUD260 #172, 208
SYD - KUL AUD300 #456
SYD - KUL AUD330 #215
SYD - KUL AUD400 #468
SYD - KUL MYR810 #325
TPE - KUL SGD110 #391

BUSINESS to FIRST
KUL - CDG MYR5,000 #67
LHR - KUL USD2,750 #4


MHUpgrade is MH's implementation of Plusgrade's bid on an upgrade platform.
  • You can check if your itinerary is eligible for bidding on an upgrade (most are) on MH's website here, but it typically takes 24-48 hours after the ticket is issued for the itinerary to be in Plusgrade's system
  • You cannot bid for flights departing within 72 hours
  • Minimum bids are dynamically set based on various factors, and don't appear to change as you get closer to flight departure
  • Tip: If you're bidding the minimum, you should consider making the bid in USD unless bidding in your home currency avoids credit card costs that are higher than the difference in pricing (see this post)
  • Bid amounts can be changed or withdrawn up to 72 hours from flight departure. It does not appear that you can update the credit card number
  • Accepted bids will be processed within the 72 hours window, generally prior to 48 hours to departure
  • If your bid is accepted:
    • The credit card will be charged
    • You will be rebooked in "I" class for business class, "P" class for first class
    • You will receive an email notification from Plusgrade
    • You will receive an email with your new eTicket from the airline
  • Within MH Enrich, mileage accrual is based on the fare class on your original ticket. For partner programs, without manual intervention, your mileage accrual is based on the class you've been rebooked into, not the one from your original ticket. Retro claims based on original booking may be required, it is unclear yet if they will be accepted or not.
    • Note that "I" earns nothing, including no segment credits or tier points (it's as if you never took the flight) on AA, BA, CX, and probably other carriers (check your program's information), so from a frequent flyer standpoint you might end up worse off
    • There are multiple reports from multiple users in this thread that mileage on partner programs (BA) will be credited based on the earning rates (if any) from original booking class, following manual intervention/claim.
  • Please read MH's FAQs
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Old Oct 7, 19, 1:10 pm
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Hi, in this situation where the flight was originally booked with BA Avios, can you still be eligible for a last-minute upgrade at KUL airport? I understand you cannot bid in advance with an MHUpgrade.
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Old Oct 7, 19, 1:21 pm
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Originally Posted by ashkale View Post
No paid upgd possible on non 232 tickets except status based op-up..
Looks like I have my answer: No paid upgrades possible on a Oneworld partner award ticket for an MH flight.
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Old Oct 7, 19, 1:29 pm
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Originally Posted by TGflyergirl View Post
Not sure about at airport upgrades on departure. I can ask next time I go
TGflyergirl, was there a next time since this post? I'm curious whether or not an award ticket (booked via a oneworld partner--for example, using BA Avios or AA miles) can be upgraded to the next higher class with cash as a last-minute upgrade at KUL.

(I understand non-232 tickets cannot be upgraded in advance using MHUpgrade bids, but wondering if an LMU at the airport a few hour before travel is possible.) Thank you.
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Old Oct 8, 19, 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by ElginH View Post
I'm curious whether or not an award ticket (booked via a oneworld partner--for example, using BA Avios or AA miles) can be upgraded to the next higher class with cash as a last-minute upgrade at KUL.

(I understand non-232 tickets cannot be upgraded in advance using MHUpgrade bids, but wondering if an LMU at the airport a few hour before travel is possible.) Thank you.
I don’t know if they can, but I know they won’t. From the couple of times I’ve asked at KUL check in when on an Avios award the answer has been no. Would be interesting to see if anyone has a success story though.
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Old Oct 8, 19, 7:24 pm
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Originally Posted by SilverChris View Post
I don’t know if they can, but I know they won’t. From the couple of times I’ve asked at KUL check in when on an Avios award the answer has been no. Would be interesting to see if anyone has a success story though.
Thanks for sharing your experiences with this. Too bad the A350 Business Suites are not bookable with oneworld partner miles or points anymore, at least as far as I can tell. When it was still officially a First Class suite, you could book it that way. Maybe things will change later, but seems like MH prefers to keep them out of reach of partner programs.
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Old Oct 9, 19, 1:26 am
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Flying out tomorrow night and originally booked one-way Economy Promo ticket 1.5 months out.
NRT to KUL on MH71 (over night flight) connecting onto BKK flight next morning for 33240 JPY (booked under O so no mileage except to their own Enrich program).

1.5 weeks after booking, got the first upgrade eligible email and placed the lowest possible bid at the time of 35365JPY for just the NRT to KUL portion.

Fast foward to 5 days before the flight, got the "Last Chance" email.
Accidentally cancelled my bid, so re-placed the lowest bid which was actually lower at 32890 JPY for the NRT to KUL portion again.

3 days before my flight got the confirmation that I've been upgraded.

If it's any indication, 5 seats left at Business Flex fare with 29 hours left to departure.
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Old Oct 9, 19, 6:01 pm
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Took a dozen MH flights for qf status run last week- the occupancy in J was always less than 50% apart from the Sunday evening flight from Bali which was full. The newer pricing strategy is beginning to hurt.
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Old Oct 9, 19, 7:27 pm
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Assume I'm crediting my flight to AA. I have a D class ticket on KUL-NRT, so I'm sort of considering upgrading into "first" (it's an overnight, so I could actually use the extra space etc). Will they rebook me into P, though? My TA could've booked P directly, but I know it will not credit to AA, and this is the flight that requalifies me for EXP, so I absolutely must have it credit correctly (retro request is fine, as long as MH does not actually truly rebook me). Any experience on this?
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Old Oct 9, 19, 7:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim View Post
Assume I'm crediting my flight to AA. I have a D class ticket on KUL-NRT, so I'm sort of considering upgrading into "first" (it's an overnight, so I could actually use the extra space etc). Will they rebook me into P, though? My TA could've booked P directly, but I know it will not credit to AA, and this is the flight that requalifies me for EXP, so I absolutely must have it credit correctly (retro request is fine, as long as MH does not actually truly rebook me). Any experience on this?
AFAIK, the new booking class is P. Having that said, I have a friend who was booked in Z class and he MHUpgraded it to P class and it credited as Z class in his CX account. This happened after MH changed it to Business Suite and P was an eligible class on CX.
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Old Oct 9, 19, 8:06 pm
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Originally Posted by nov11 View Post
AFAIK, the new booking class is P. Having that said, I have a friend who was booked in Z class and he MHUpgraded it to P class and it credited as Z class in his CX account. This happened after MH changed it to Business Suite and P was an eligible class on CX.
Yeah that's what worries me ... P class earns nothing on AA, so I'm worried they'll credit it as nothing. I'll wait to see if anyone had any specific experience with this, and if not, I'll just not take the risk, I think. Technically, MH does say that it will credit "the original booking class", but I really don't want to fight this with two carriers who aren't likely to care. Heh.
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Old Oct 9, 19, 8:47 pm
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Originally Posted by rtaguchi View Post
Flying out tomorrow night and originally booked one-way Economy Promo ticket 1.5 months out.
NRT to KUL on MH71 (over night flight) connecting onto BKK flight next morning for 33240 JPY (booked under O so no mileage except to their own Enrich program).

1.5 weeks after booking, got the first upgrade eligible email and placed the lowest possible bid at the time of 35365JPY for just the NRT to KUL portion.

Fast foward to 5 days before the flight, got the "Last Chance" email.
Accidentally cancelled my bid, so re-placed the lowest bid which was actually lower at 32890 JPY for the NRT to KUL portion again.

3 days before my flight got the confirmation that I've been upgraded.

If it's any indication, 5 seats left at Business Flex fare with 29 hours left to departure.
Did you get any mileage and status points in your FFP post upgrade?
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Old Oct 10, 19, 1:08 am
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Originally Posted by carrotjuice View Post
Did you get any mileage and status points in your FFP post upgrade?
Last minute aircraft change to A330 mean a “downgrade” for me or travel in the original class after all should I say.
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Old Oct 11, 19, 11:13 pm
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Originally Posted by rtaguchi View Post
Last minute aircraft change to A330 mean a “downgrade” for me or travel in the original class after all should I say.
Seems a frequent occurrence on the night flights out of Narita. Disturbing.
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Old Oct 11, 19, 11:14 pm
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Originally Posted by ashkale View Post
Seems a frequent occurrence on the night flights out of Narita. Disturbing.
Yep, I was just downgraded from a 359 to a 333 on KUL-NRT.
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Old Oct 12, 19, 10:31 pm
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Originally Posted by ashkale View Post
.....The newer pricing strategy is beginning to hurt.
Yes, the days of the cheap Z class fares appear to have gone. Hopefully it is only temporary!
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