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Malaysia Airlines MH 17 crash in Ukraine (17 July 2014 - PLEASE READ WIKI, FAQ)
#91
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CNN hasn't said that so far. They were talking about analysis of the cargo plane that was shot down earlier in the week, and that they currently believe that was shot down from the russian side of the border. So far CNN hasn't said definitely that the MH plane was even shot down.
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My heart goes out to everyone on-board and their families. May God give them strength and courage in this trying hour!
Flightaware data can be found here:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS17
News reports:
http://myfox8.com/2014/07/17/malaysi...-east-ukraine/
Flightaware data can be found here:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS17
News reports:
http://myfox8.com/2014/07/17/malaysi...-east-ukraine/
#93
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I saw this on Twitter, and immediately came to FlyerTalk for good info. Does anyone here speak Russian and can tell us what the news media there is saying?
RIP these many souls.
RIP these many souls.
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Not trying to start a political argument in the middle of what looks to be a horrible tragedy, but if this aircraft was indeed shot down by someone (e.g. the Ukrainian or Russian militaries) with SAMs capable of taking out a plane at 30k+ feet, wouldn't this constitute an act of war?
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Lest we forget about governments shooting down civilian aircraft with SAMs....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
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The BCC and the Guardian are posting live updates:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-28354787
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...s-ukraine-live
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-28354787
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...s-ukraine-live
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Damn. I was initially booked on that flight to leave on 18Jul, later changed to 13Aug. Now I might go on SQ instead...
This isn't MH's year...
If it was indeed confirmed that it was shot down... can you imagine the repercussions? Or if any?
This isn't MH's year...
If it was indeed confirmed that it was shot down... can you imagine the repercussions? Or if any?