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Old Jul 17, 2014, 9:45 am
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Missiles can hit a plane at 30,000 feet? That is last known altitude on Flightaware
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 9:45 am
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Prayers for all aboard. Terrible terrible situation - how do you mistake a civilian plane for a military plane?

Hopefully this is the last of it - these are the types of things that start wars.
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 9:45 am
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Ukrainian officials: plane shot down by separatists using Buk missile system provided by Russia.
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 9:46 am
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To have a ground-launched missile capable of hitting something at that altitude would require a pretty large SAM, probably a fixed or mobile wheeled launcher. Certainly not a hand launch missile (MANPAD?).
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 9:46 am
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How terribly sad. The news here is "confirming" that all 295 have tragically died.

Really horrible year for MH in terms of pax (I refer to the reality of loss of life, not even touching the brand damage).

People have been saying "shot down." Has this been reported in any official channels?
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Wow, so sad. I wonder how RT.com are going to spin this.
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MH flight, a Boeing 772, from AMS-KUL crashed today - 07/17/2014?

Just got the news! It is a developing story. MH flight from AMS-KUL crashed near Russia-Ukraine border.

Details can be found here:

http://myfox8.com/2014/07/17/malaysi...-east-ukraine/

I pray for those affected in the crash, and their families.

P.S. Mods, please move this/merge this, if it has already been discussed/started. Thanks.

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Old Jul 17, 2014, 9:47 am
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That is terrible
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by flyerdude88
Prayers for all aboard. Terrible terrible situation - how do you mistake a civilian plane for a military plane?

Hopefully this is the last of it - these are the types of things that start wars.
There's already a war on in the area. This just makes it rather more interesting. Agree entirely with the rest of your post though.
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At this point, English language media is in 'we don't really know anything, but let's wildly speculate and air any and all unconfirmed rumors' mode.
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 9:48 am
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Awful, Just awful. There have been allegations that a Ukrainian Jet Fighter was shot down in the area earlier on today. Its quite a coincidence.

Those poor poor people onboard.
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Originally Posted by Winkdaddy
Link?
https://www.facebook.com/anton.geras...94787050608145
http://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/news/2014/07/17/7032188/
(both links in Russian)
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by joshwex90
How terribly sad. The news here is "confirming" that all 295 have tragically died.

Really horrible year for MH in terms of pax (I refer to the reality of loss of life, not even touching the brand damage).

People have been saying "shot down." Has this been reported in any official channels?
Not official sources yet.

30000 ft .. it needs some sophisticated missile launchers.

Prayers for the families.
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Old Jul 17, 2014, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by sunnygirlca
Missiles can hit a plane at 30,000 feet? That is last known altitude on Flightaware
Even twice as high and flying ..... 3-4x faster. The B-70 (Valkyrie) was pretty much obsolete before it flew due to advances in Soviet SAM technology, and this was in the '50s.
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anyone know the tail number?
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