Mar 16, 2014, 5:32 am
Last edit by: JDiver
This is ARCHIVE WEEK #1 (8 - 14 March UTC) of older posts from the original thread, MH 370 KUL-PEK Missing: now Search and Recovery [PLEASE SEE WIKI].
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MH 370 KUL-PEK Missing: 8 - 14 Mar 2014 UTC - ARCHIVE WEEK #1
Mar 14, 2014, 7:13 am
#3691
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Murder Mitten
Posts: 298
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/m...ta-says-journa
This is a 15 hour old story, but interesting to read.
This is a 15 hour old story, but interesting to read.
Does anyone know if it is possible to turn off the engine pings?
Mar 14, 2014, 7:13 am
#3692
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: London
Programs: CX DM
Posts: 133
Hence the flight sim at home? I really do hope people are still alive somewhere.
Mar 14, 2014, 7:14 am
#3693
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Murder Mitten
Posts: 298
We can already surmise right now that the pilot who was in charge of this plane was very skilled and planned well. It wouldn't be impossible to pull off though.
If you go under the plane (by a few thousand feet), the plane above would not be able to see I think.
Yeah, very movie-ish, but then everything else already is on that level.
If you go under the plane (by a few thousand feet), the plane above would not be able to see I think.
Yeah, very movie-ish, but then everything else already is on that level.
Mar 14, 2014, 7:15 am
#3694
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Bainbridge Island, WA
Posts: 8,963
Just waking up ( PST) and have finished the dozen or so pages I missed since I went to bed last night. Fascinating reading. I learned two things this morning:
1. The mystery continues.
2. I miss too much and it takes a long time to catch up if I try to get some sleep.
Question: Are there any viable airstrips on the Andaman Islands that could take a 777?
1. The mystery continues.
2. I miss too much and it takes a long time to catch up if I try to get some sleep.
Question: Are there any viable airstrips on the Andaman Islands that could take a 777?
Last edited by david55; Mar 14, 2014 at 7:24 am
Mar 14, 2014, 7:16 am
#3696
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: SYD
Posts: 24
Here is the approximate location of the Indian SAR area overlayed on the estimated flight path and radar locations:
http://i.imgur.com/ioT6aLN.jpg
It seems odd to base their SAR to the South East of the last known position, especially considering it was based on 'fairly specific co-ordinates'.
Any plans from India to change their search area?
Also credit goes to user alanstarr for the basemap.
http://i.imgur.com/ioT6aLN.jpg
It seems odd to base their SAR to the South East of the last known position, especially considering it was based on 'fairly specific co-ordinates'.
Any plans from India to change their search area?
Also credit goes to user alanstarr for the basemap.
Last edited by Nrg800; Mar 14, 2014 at 7:31 am Reason: cleaned up the map a bit
Mar 14, 2014, 7:20 am
#3698
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 81
Here is the approximate location of the Indian SAR area overlayed on the estimated flight path and radar locations:
http://i.imgur.com/koFVIg1.jpg
It seems odd to base their SAR to the South East of the last known position, especially considering it was based on 'fairly specific co-ordinates'.
Any plans from India to change their search area?
Also credit goes to user alanstarr for the basemap.
http://i.imgur.com/koFVIg1.jpg
It seems odd to base their SAR to the South East of the last known position, especially considering it was based on 'fairly specific co-ordinates'.
Any plans from India to change their search area?
Also credit goes to user alanstarr for the basemap.
I don't believe so. They would need to visually see this.
Mar 14, 2014, 7:22 am
#3699
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: BOS/MAN
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 168
That is correct. Modern airliners are generally fitted with TCAS (Traffic Collision Avoidance System) to "see" other aircraft . However, it needs an active transponder to work. It's similar to ADS-B which has been discussed numerous times upthread!
Mar 14, 2014, 7:24 am
#3700
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: New York, Paris
Programs: AA ExPlat 4MM, AA Life Plat, Lufthansa FT, Delta Basic
Posts: 1,593
One does not exactly steal a B777 like one steals a car... What I fear, IF the conspiracy theory proves right, is that several pilots or ATC people from different areas might be involved. Planning, time and money can provide sophisticated logistics. This could become a real headache
Mar 14, 2014, 7:24 am
#3701
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: MAN
Programs: FB Gold
Posts: 291
Up thread we assumed that they had used different satellite receivers to triangulate the readings and get location and altitude data.
As to the landing conjecture, not even the unofficial sources are saying, but I guess they inferred it from the time, altitude and distance traveled information.
Mar 14, 2014, 7:25 am
#3702
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 81
One does not exactly steal a B777 like one steals a car... What I fear, IF the conspiracy theory proves right, is that several pilots or ATC people from different areas might be involved. Planning, time and money can provide sophisticated logistics. This could become a real headache
Mar 14, 2014, 7:25 am
#3703
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 357
Andaman timezone is UTC+5.30. Dawn is currently 5.26am local = 7.56am Malaysian time. Takeoff of MH370 from KL was 00.41am local.
In other words, with 7.5+ hours of fuel onboard, the plane might have reached the islands as it was getting light. Anywhere suitable with a 2-mile beach?
(speculative I know, but don't think anyone has considered a daylight landing as possible yet)
In other words, with 7.5+ hours of fuel onboard, the plane might have reached the islands as it was getting light. Anywhere suitable with a 2-mile beach?
(speculative I know, but don't think anyone has considered a daylight landing as possible yet)
Mar 14, 2014, 7:30 am
#3704
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: LHR- ish
Programs: MUCCI, BA Blue
Posts: 4,295
Howver I doubt this is possible. I should think it would require the aircraft to be moving so fast that it would have come apart on hitting the sea. And the seabed would have to be very soft to absorb the plane.
Mar 14, 2014, 7:30 am
#3705
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Murder Mitten
Posts: 298
That doesn't really make sense. What would he do with the passengers? kill them all?