Mar 16, 2014, 5:32 am
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This is ARCHIVE WEEK #1 (8 - 14 March UTC) of older posts from the original thread, MH 370 KUL-PEK Missing: now Search and Recovery [PLEASE SEE WIKI].
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MH 370 KUL-PEK Missing: 8 - 14 Mar 2014 UTC - ARCHIVE WEEK #1
Mar 11, 2014, 10:13 pm
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Mar 11, 2014, 10:16 pm
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China may have found something? Anyone translate Chinese to find out what is being written along with the photos?
http://www.mod.gov.cn/hdpic/2014-03/...nt_4496593.htm
http://www.mod.gov.cn/hdpic/2014-03/...nt_4496593.htm
Mar 11, 2014, 10:22 pm
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And I'll now repeat myself, I'm not a Boeing cheerleader @:-)
Enjoy your trip
Mar 11, 2014, 10:22 pm
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Esp the areas over land - you would think somewhere along the line, someone would take notice of a large aircraft incoming. With no apparent communications, etc. In this day & age of heightened security...
Mar 11, 2014, 10:24 pm
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I didn't see this posted yet, but it would explain why Boeing has nothing to say on the matter:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...jets-data.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...jets-data.html
Mar 11, 2014, 10:29 pm
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We're flying a number of transoceanic flights over the next four weeks and while I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a tad anxious, the reality is that you just NEVER know when your time is going to be up. In that spirit, we're focusing on the excitement of our mini-RTW vacation and ignoring the fact that one of the transoceanic flights is OZ101 (ICN-SFO) on a 77L. 
Mar 11, 2014, 10:32 pm
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Mar 11, 2014, 10:33 pm
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Interesting article. Turns out 75% of 777s are equipped with the Airplane Health Data system which automatically sends information to Boeing by satellite about the status of systems on the aircraft. I believe this is the system which was so helpful in the AF case. Neither Boeing or MH would comment on MH's participation in this program. Nice to know that 75% of 777s DO have access to this information, however.
Mar 11, 2014, 10:35 pm
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1st represents radial measure from KUL to PEK, the 2nd concentric circle represents the maximum range given the amount of fuel in the tanks.
Airplanes take on more fuel than required to fly a given route, but often not much more to avoid taking on unnecessary weight.
Airplanes take on more fuel than required to fly a given route, but often not much more to avoid taking on unnecessary weight.
Last edited by sriegert; Mar 11, 2014 at 10:37 pm Reason: clarify fuel component of range
Mar 11, 2014, 10:38 pm
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I'm assuming we don't know how exactly much fuel was on board the aircraft (but if someone does - please post it!), so the light circle is the distance we know it could have reached (it had to get to PEK, after all.) The shaded circle is probably a reasonable distance beyond the radius of PEK (since aircraft are loaded with extra contingency fuel in case of holds, weather, diversion, etc.)
Mar 11, 2014, 10:38 pm
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In case anyone else was wondering, it seems Malaysia Airlines does *not* offer inflight Internet/WiFi but does offer a micro-GSM service for passenger comms (via satellite) so voice, email, SMS, and some internet browsing is possible.
I wonder if OnAir registered any data traffic through its satellites from that a/c? And, more importantly, when did it stop?
I wonder if OnAir registered any data traffic through its satellites from that a/c? And, more importantly, when did it stop?
Mar 11, 2014, 10:39 pm
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Interesting article. Turns out 75% of 777s are equipped with the Airplane Health Data system which automatically sends information to Boeing by satellite about the status of systems on the aircraft. I believe this is the system which was so helpful in the AF case. Neither Boeing or MH would comment on MH's participation in this program. Nice to know that 75% of 777s DO have access to this information, however.
From upthread:
Yes, but were they equipped with the VHF version or the Satellite version? if the former it could well have been yelling it's head off with no one to hear it scream (so to speak). Same goes for the ADS-B, sat or VHF? The sat versions of both should have been mandatory a long, long time ago.
Ideally there's a continuous system (minute interval), or a fault triggered system, with satellite.
But Profit=Revenue-Cost.
Mar 11, 2014, 10:46 pm
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Also this map is 'worst case scenario' and doesn't take into account fuel dumping, which if there was any kind of emergency the crew most likely did. @:-)
so, searching in the far reaches of this area would presume there was no emergency
so, searching in the far reaches of this area would presume there was no emergency
Mar 11, 2014, 10:50 pm
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Interesting article. Turns out 75% of 777s are equipped with the Airplane Health Data system which automatically sends information to Boeing by satellite about the status of systems on the aircraft. I believe this is the system which was so helpful in the AF case. Neither Boeing or MH would comment on MH's participation in this program. Nice to know that 75% of 777s DO have access to this information, however.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...40310?irpc=932
Mar 11, 2014, 10:56 pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by enzian
Yes, and not happy about it. We booked our BA flight on a 747 and it has since been replaced with a 777.
We're flying a number of transoceanic flights over the next four weeks and while I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a tad anxious, the reality is that you just NEVER know when your time is going to be up. In that spirit, we're focusing on the excitement of our mini-RTW vacation and ignoring the fact that one of the transoceanic flights is OZ101 (ICN-SFO) on a 77L.
Originally Posted by enzian
Yes, and not happy about it. We booked our BA flight on a 747 and it has since been replaced with a 777.
We're flying a number of transoceanic flights over the next four weeks and while I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a tad anxious, the reality is that you just NEVER know when your time is going to be up. In that spirit, we're focusing on the excitement of our mini-RTW vacation and ignoring the fact that one of the transoceanic flights is OZ101 (ICN-SFO) on a 77L.
When AA1420 crashed in Little Rock, I was scheduled to fly on an AA MD80 from MCO to DFW that Friday. Was I concerned about that flight? No due to the odds of that happening again within a short period of time was very low. What I do recall from that flight was that the captain used the reverse thrusters to leave the gate. I had been flying that route for a month and don't recall leaving the gate without a tow on prior flights.