ashkale

There are no military secrets being with held - it is not so complex at all - these are the secrets of incompetence, corruption and favors and some really random cost cutting..

thewayofthefuture

Click 'Edit', then 'View History'.

Delta Hog

Apologies if I've missed the direct reference somewhere in the thread, but are we possibly talking about a Payne Stewart situation now? If so, the crash site could be anywhere.

On October 25, 1999, a chartered Learjet 35 was scheduled to fly from Orlando, Florida to Dallas, Texas. Early in the flight the aircraft, which was cruising at altitude on autopilot, quickly lost cabin pressure. All on board were incapacitated due to hypoxia — a lack of oxygen. The aircraft failed to make the westward turn toward Dallas over north Florida. It continued flying over the southern and midwestern United States for almost four hours and 1,500 miles (2,400 km). The plane ran out of fuel and crashed into a field near Aberdeen, South Dakota after an uncontrolled descent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_So..._Learjet_crash

farulg

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A2701720140311

Completely baffling. As a Malaysian I'm embarrassed at how idiotic the military is acting if this turns out to be true.

iquitos

BBC analyst is saying this is an intelligence cat and mouse game and the truth is slowly outing.

MANman

I don't have the transcript from the Press Conference, but it would appear he made the comments in response to a question "why search around Malacca?"
They decided to search there and he is not saying why.

If they really did know the last sighting was in Malacca, even while they have been searching off Vietnam and this was kept quiet for some military or incompetence reason, then people, especially the Chinese, will be really quite angry.

HEATKUL

Anyone could translate to English?

Lapan penduduk dengar bunyi dentuman buat laporan polis di Marang


MARANG 11 Mac - Lapan penduduk di Kampung Pantai Seberang Marang di sini mendakwa mendengar bunyi dentuman yang kuat pada pagi Sabtu lalu datang dari timur laut Pulau Kapas, kemungkinan ada kaitan dengan pesawat Malaysia Airlines Penerbangan MH370 yang hilang.

Berikutan itu mereka telah membuat laporan di ibu pejabat polis Daerah Marang kira-kira pukul 10.30 pagi tadi.

Salah seorang penduduk terbabit, Alias Salleh, 36, berkata pada pukul 1.20 pagi berkenaan ketika beliau bersama tujuh lagi rakannya sedang bersantai duduk di bangku kira-kira 400 meter dari pantai Marang, tiba-tiba dikejutkan dengan bunyi kuat seperti kipas kapal terbang.

"Bunyi yang kuat dan menakutkan itu dipercayai datang dari timur laut Pulau Kapas sebelum kami bergegas ke arah tersebut untuk mengesan punca bunyi itu. "Kami mencari di sekitar Pantai Rhu Muda namun tidak menemui apa-apa yang mencurigakan," kata Alias, seorang pemandu lori.

Ditanya mengapa beliau membuat laporan selepas empat hari kejadian itu berlaku, bapa kepada tiga orang anak itu berkata, beliau bertanggungjawab untuk melaporkan maklumat kepada pihak berkuasa bila pesawat masih tidak ditemui hari ini selepas empat hari berlalu.

Sementara itu, seorang lagi penduduk Mohd Yusri Mohd Yusof, 34, berkata bunyi yang kuat dan agak pelik itu pada awalnya disangkakan fenomena Tsunami.

"Bunyi bising yang kedengaran seperti kipas kapal terbang itu dapat saya dan rakan-rakan dengar selama dua minit dan bunyi itu berdesing.

"Saya mengambil keputusan ini (membuat laporan) selepas berasa curiga dengan bunyi itu dan ditambah lagi dengan laporan media berkaitan kes kehilangan pesawat," kata beliau.

Mohd Yusri turut mendakwa beberapa kawannya termasuk pemancing dan nelayan turut mendengar bunyi aneh berkenaan dari arah pantai.

Pesawat MAS Penerbangan MH370 itu membawa 227 penumpang, termasuk dua bayi dan 12 anak kapal, hilang semasa dalam perjalanan dari Kuala Lumpur ke Beijing kira-kira sejam setelah berlepas dari Lapangan Terbang Antarabangsa Kuala Lumpur di Sepang pada 12.41 pagi Sabtu.

- BERNAMA.



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trailboss99

Quite inexcusable and all I'm asking for is GPS data to be broadcast, position, heading speed and altitude. To have my satphone do that every five minutes costs me less than $5 a day.

If it came anywhere near Northern Australia Jindalee (the over the horizon radar system) should have picked it up. No way they would miss a bird that size.

Sorry mate but I have made and received calls on my GSM mobile from 15 to 20,000 feet on many occasions even in areas where towers are a long way apart.

iquitos

Are they saying they lost contact or that the acft left their radar range?

HEATKUL

Here is in English.

MARANG: Eight villagers here lodged police reports today claiming that they had heard a loud noise last Saturday coming from the direction of Pulau Kapas and believed it was linked to the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight on that day.
All of them, from Kampung Pantai Seberang Marang, made the reports at the Marang district police headquarters at about 10.30 am.

One of them, Alias Salleh, 36, said he and seven fellow villagers were seated on a bench about 400 metres from the Marang beach at 1.20 am when they heard the noise, which sounded like the fan of a jet engine.

"The loud and frightening noise came from the north-east of Pulau Kapas and we ran in that direction to find out the cause. We looked around the Rhu Muda beach but did not see anything unusual," said the lorry driver.

Replying to a question, Alias said they lodged the police report so that it would be of help to the authorities who were trying to locate the missing MAS aircraft.


MAS Flight MH370, carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew, went missing en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing about an hour after taking off from the KL International Airport at 12.41 am Saturday.

It was flying above the South China Sea off Kelantan at that time. It should have landed in Beijing at 6.30 am but has disappeared without a trace.

Another villager, Mohd Yusri Mohd Yusof, 34, said when he heard the strange noise, he thought a tsunami was about to strike.

"My friends and I heard the ringing noise for about two minutes. I decided to lodge the police report after seeing the media reports on the lost flight," he said. -- BERNAMA
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Read more: MISSING MH370: Loud noise reported, believed linked to missing plane - Latest - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-co...#ixzz2vfBHA8jb

sriegert

Unbelievable. Even if the transponder was turned off, how on earth does ATC not notice?

Hendo5698

I know there has been a lot of discussion about possible loss of cabin pressure and hypoxia setting in and incapacitating the pilots, and it has been the cause for other airline crashes. Maybe there should be a policy that one pilot has to be connected to the planes oxygen supply at all times in flight? I am not a pilot but there should be some way to prevent this type of accident from occurring.

MANman

The report said "last seen"
But while this "new" last sighting is being widely reported, all reports seem to be from the same off-the-record comment, so far unconfirmed.
We have to wait until the Press Conference for some more info.

bthotugigem05

I don't understand why an airline would do this. You'd be asking every airline to incur significant additional costs (on top of already slim margins for many airlines) for absolutely no tangible benefit. GPS wouldn't have kept this plane in the air, unfortunate as it is, and wouldn't have saved the lives of those onboard, God rest their souls.

If the global flying community is asking airlines to incur millions in cost I'd rather it be for something tangible that improves flight safety even more instead of something that makes it easier to find a downed plane.

This accident doesn't change the fact that there just aren't that many scenarios like this. Two in the past decade. This search is costly, sure, but it's something for which MH has insurance and can hedge against. If they had instituted something like this after AF447, it would have been a complete and total waste of money for every airline that's not MH, and it wouldn't have saved MH any money, they're still out the plane and have to bear the emotional cost on their conscience forever.

iquitos

Malaysia's Berita Harian newspaper quoted air force chief Rodzali Daud as saying the plane was last detected at 2.40 a.m. by military radar near the island of Pulau Perak at the northern end of the Strait of Malacca. It was flying about 1,000 meters lower than its previous altitude, he was quoted as saying. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A2701720140311