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Old Aug 17, 19, 11:49 pm
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“Working girls” issue in luxury hotel...

We stay in a luxury hotel in Europe (won’t mention name nor country) with wife and young daughter


Two prostitutes knock / hit the door very hard for several minutes in the beginning of the evening with my wife inside

I was downstairs with the daughter and called security

Seems that the girls went to the front desk to ask to call the room.

I went to the front desk and she just told me. “I know”
Asked to speak with the manager but he was busy.

I told her that she seems not to care and she told me that she was with a guest.

When we came back from diner, we found a bottle of champagne and a fruit basket without any note.

Wonder if the hotel order the girls on behalf of client :
- why the security let them in despite they were clearly working girls (security was high)
- why the girls were confident enough to ask the front desk to call the room

Why do you think ?

Did the hotel handle the situation correctly ?
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Old Aug 17, 19, 11:57 pm
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We stay in a luxury hotel in Europe (won’t mention name nor country) with wife and young daughter


Two prostitutes knock / hit the door very hard for several minutes in the beginning of the evening with my wife inside

I was downstairs with the daughter and called security

Seems that the girls went to the front desk to ask to call the room.

I went to the front desk and she just told me. “I know”
Asked to speak with the manager but he was busy.

I told her that she seems not to care and she told me that she was with a guest.

When we came back from diner, we found a bottle of champagne and a fruit basket without any note.

Wonder if the hotel order the girls on behalf of client :
- why the security let them in despite they were clearly working girls (security was high)
- why the girls were confident enough to ask the front desk to call the room

Why do you think ?

Did the hotel handle the situation correctly ?
From what I know of this situation in Korea, a FD person or even manager can arrange these services for trusted guests. Keeping trusted door people in the loop or cooperating with local brothels. I don't know if your hotel had a security scanner or elevator keycard system but it seems like they're very familiar with ladies of the night if she said "she knows".

I wouldn't go back there again considering this happened to a spouse. The only person who should be knocking on the door is me.
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Old Aug 18, 19, 12:52 am
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You won’t get any useful input as long as people don’t know the country/ city. In some European countries this would be entirely shocking, in others par for the course. It looks like your working girls were either connected to the front desk or possibly a service of the hotel itself.

If it’s Sweden make a big deal out of it, if it’s Belarus I really wouldn’t bother...
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Old Aug 18, 19, 1:33 am
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In my opinion the hotel doesn’t seem to be very customer oriented. I had zero feedback from any person (beside the cheap champagne and fruit if we can call that a feedback. Also I told them yearly for the last 10 years that I don’t drink ...
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Old Aug 18, 19, 2:13 am
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In my opinion the hotel doesn’t seem to be very customer oriented. I had zero feedback from any person (beside the cheap champagne and fruit if we can call that a feedback. Also I told them yearly for the last 10 years that I don’t drink ...
Have you emailed the GM about this or corporate? Nothing I dislike more than cheap champagne and fruit. At least try to buy me off with free dinner!
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Old Aug 18, 19, 3:22 am
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Yes I’ll email the GM later today or tomorrow. Seems to be a nice guy. Still on property
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Old Aug 18, 19, 6:11 am
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No idea where in the world OP is located. In some places (New York, London) this would be way out of line, and worth raising a fuss about with management. In other places it would be par for the course. And in some locales with overt security / surveillance or corruption culture, what you describe could be part of a sting or blackmail operation targeting foreigners, and it would be best to just keep one's head down and not say anything, but assume room and e-devices are bugged and be accordingly discreet.
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Old Aug 18, 19, 6:16 am
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Maybe I am making a mountain out of a molehill here, but IMO this is unacceptable at any hotel. The fact this has been posted here, and the hotels that therefore brings to mind, is appalling.

1. If the hotel is allowing girls to enter and have free reign of the rooms, what else are they doing against company policy?

2. If they are that lackadaisical about letting these girls in, what impression does it give off of their wider security?

3. Regardless of the country and how ‘locally acceptable’ that act is, why doesn’t the hotel’s head office better manage its’ estate and maintain absolute consistency across its’ security and guest safety agenda?

Fair enough if the OP doesn’t want to name the hotel, but I’d personally be interested to know so I can unequivocally avoid that brand and company going forward.
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Old Aug 18, 19, 6:37 am
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In my opinion the hotel doesn’t seem to be very customer oriented. I had zero feedback from any person (beside the cheap champagne and fruit if we can call that a feedback. Also I told them yearly for the last 10 years that I don’t drink ...
Or they are if you consider the majority (or an important part) of guests ask for such services. Personally I would not stay at the hotel either but in some cities and (business orientated) hotels (not luxury) it's not uncommon. For excample from some London hotels reports of prostitutes in the bar are common.
Without knowing more details this thred is useless imo.
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Old Aug 18, 19, 6:54 am
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I think prostitutes in the bar is one thing but letting folk bang on your door is another entirely.
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Old Aug 18, 19, 7:06 am
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Depending on the country/city, this is...not an extraordinary tale.

However, I don't know why the OP (as so many other posters also do) feels the need to protect not just the hotel in question but the geography involved. Without any further details, this might as well just be a somewhat salacious work of fiction.
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Old Aug 18, 19, 7:30 am
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It's a matter of local custom, but still, "escorts" should be careful to get the room number right and the hotel should not permit random or door-to-door solicitation. Hotel guests who don't request such services shouldn't be bothered in this way, although sometimes you can't help noticing the prostitutes in hotel bars and elevators--and it can be amusing at times, although of course one shouldn't stare or laugh.
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Old Aug 18, 19, 8:41 am
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A manager was very apologetic at check out.
We’ll see what the GM will say.

Yes the girls were strange to bang at the door so hard despite my wife told them it’s a mistake and also strange to have the wrong room number.
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I have had this experience in eastern Europe and of course once I found out it was a woman I did not open the door as it could be dangerous too. But sometimes, I have seen them in the lifts in 5 star hotels too and it just could be a mistaken room no. They may have been cleared to another room and ended up knocking on your room by mistake.
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Old Aug 18, 19, 9:34 am
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I have had this experience in eastern Europe and of course once I found out it was a woman I did not open the door as it could be dangerous too. But sometimes, I have seen them in the lifts in 5 star hotels too and it just could be a mistaken room no. They may have been cleared to another room and ended up knocking on your room by mistake.
I would hope the hotel takes the attitude that if they expect to do business in the hotel regularly, they must be responsible about being careful to go only to the correct room. One careless mistake is understandable, but beyond that, the particular sex worker or agency shouldn't be welcome any more.
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