fotographer

Well its a good thing I dont to fancy restaurants.... I think most everyone would be applauded if I showed up with a Hawaiian shirt and a shorts, or linen pants.. and a pair of Berks

behuman

Fantastic resumée ! Thank you !

To avoid any misunderstanding, dress can be casual and still elegant. This includes tailored shorts and nice shoes.

My point was those horrible "boardshorts" or "swimshorts" in which certain men appear to pass their life, from pool to table literally. Wonder if they are also sleeping in them, of course removing the flip flops. No racism here, as this "fashion" is overlapping to Europe. Meanwhile women dress much more appropriately with mostly attractive swimming suits and nice garments in the evening. Perhaps the sloppy appearance of men is an expression of oppression and dominance of women........ Women are objects of sexual desire and men can do whatever on their domination trip.

Cyan123

I would rather have a badly dressed well behaved person than a well dressed badly behaved one.

Cannot abide the stupid outdated dress codes at MO club lounge and Shang Valley Wing in Singapore. I have watched them turn away a family arriving for breakfast because the teenage kids were in shorts and T shirts! Meanwhile we to have to sit amongst little old women in the equivalent of the M & S grandma clothing range, skin coloured tights and cheap black court shoes which are apparently acceptable for breakfast.

What is so offensive about wearing flip flops during the day especially in hot, humid countries...the Shang tell me it is because they are made of rubber, they did a survey. So I now have a pair of leather ones to try out on them next time I stay

behuman

We are talking flip flops and "swim"shorts for dinner at a three Michelin star restaurant with air conditioning. And not your nice leather ones

benjai

Dress codes should be respected and we should maintain some level of standards where required. I was recently in Hong Kong and wanted to go to a three star restaurant so I checked in advance if they had a dress code (they did). Since it was summer and I knew I would be tired from travelling and wanted to wear shorts, I decided not to go. Its pretty simple. Their restaurant, their rules.

Sometimes its nice to be in an environment where everyone is dressed nicely. If that's not your thing, which is absolutely fine, then simply don't go. No need to be all selfish about it.

Cyan123

I am happy to know they would be acceptable at a 3* Michelin restaurant...the pink ones have sparkly bits as well so I am confident the Shang staff are going to be suitable impressed!

offerendum

As stupid as I find dress-codes I have my own opinion what is appropriate or not. Flip Flop or Shorts arenīt in my eyes at dinner. This said I strongly doule the statement "If that's not your thing, which is absolutely fine, then simply don't go". You may of course ask like bhrubin for an excemption which is fine (I would never ask for "permission", but there is nothing wrong about it) but if they insist on it you are always able to say "no". Some restaurants refuse to cater me due my diet, also fine. I ask in advance and if they arenīt able or ready to do what I like they shall do business with someone else.

Same (and this thread is about it I believe) with hotels. In 99% Iīm not forced to stay in one special hotel. If I donīt like their dress code or Iīm simply not ready to follow someone who tells me how to dress (sometimes Iīm a rebel) or I think they "donīt deserve my suit" itīs fine. I stay elsewere in the hope the other hotel fits me better. If I think I have nevertheless to stay at this one hotel I should be ready to follow its rules.

LondonElite

Does that mean the 'devil's fabric' is now permitted? Perhaps before 1800?

jerseytom

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I feel like I rarely even notice what other people are wearing, short of it being something completely wild with bright pastel colors out of a 90's music video. Even then... I am infinitely more likely to notice or be put off by someone being loud and obnoxious than by what they're wearing. I'd much rather be next to someone dressed casual but being quiet and polite, than someone dressed very nicely but being loud, obnoxious, or snobby and rude.

If a place has a dress code than by all means, respect it or stay someone else. If not, I'm really not bothered or paying attention. At a restaurant, I'm focused on my meal and company. Getting in and out of a hotel or resort I'm focused on my plans for the day. In an around an airport I'm entirely focused on flight status, gate or lounge locations, whatever.

But perhaps I'm just one of those uncultured swine from the Colonies, or an engineer with no sense of class and style

RichardInSF

I don;t think this thread is going anywhere productive now, so I'm closing it. Future discussions should be in Omni.

RichardInSF, moderator, luxury hotels and travel