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Kagehitokiri

forbes.com/sites/samanthasharf/2018/10/11/the-walt-disney-of-retail-meet-the-billionaire-building-the-malls-of-the-future-1
seems owner may be great in terms of investment in luxury hotel operations, but depends on relationship with rosewood

hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-gwyneth-paltrow-s-goop-brand-is-expanding-1174650
endorsement and relationship >

gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/rick-caruso-gwyneth-paltrow-host-cocktails-at-goop-news-photo/694201010
wwd.com/eye/parties/gallery/jennifer-meyer-boutique-opening-party-palisades-village-1202887109
Rick in the news this week >
tmz.com/2019/03/13/lori-loughlin-daughter-olivia-yacht-usc-board-of-trustees-rick-caruso
tmz.com/person/rick-caruso

southern california is a world of its own i think

bhrubin

It's a boutique. It's one hotel. I don't spend a lot of time in a hotel boutique, so I could care less. Anywhere.

Kagehitokiri

first link suggests he may be good owner, vs those who cut service because of cost

i imagine rosewood will like the guests they introduce to the brand there in southern california, and in future can pair with upcoming reopened kona village, currently saying 2022.
rosewoodhotels.com/en/luxury-hotels-and-resorts

seems likely goop products irrelevant vs PR factor of paltrow and her friends

(media coverage of hotel because paltrow is behind brand opening store there)

paltrow was among those invited for pre-opening stay by FS/aman cabo developer

curious whether it's inside minibar (some hotels, even upscale, have all sorts of 'adult' things) or prominently displayed in room as some luxury hotels have done with alcohol for sale

bhrubin

If this heathen atheist can ignore the Mormon Bibles now in all of my favorite St Regis, Ritz-Carlton, and Luxury Collection hotels under the Marriott umbrella, I am pretty sure everyone can ignore the Goop.

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peter11

Here's a link to what it looks and sounds like as the train passes through as seen from the veranda. The beach bar is about 15 or 20 feet on the other side of the tracks....probably a little scary as the train passes .
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bu1qITNFs3b/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=kn0dni6zar3j

bhrubin

Valveking

We are going to be out in Santa Barbara for a few days in July while our son is playing soccer in Goleta and I have no idea where we should stay. The RC Bacara is less than 1/2 the price of Rosewood and FS and is much closer to where he will be playing, but I just haven't been able to pull the trigger. El Encanto looks nice as well and is also much less expensive. Rosewood and FS both look great but the the train? Yikes! Does it run in the middle of the night?

We need a place where my wife and 16 year old daughter will enjoy spending time while I am taking our son to soccer.

peter11

Yes, the train runs at night, although I don't know the exact schedule and whether there is a quiet period in the middle of the night. I felt that the prices at Rosewood seemed aggressive. The RC is the logical choice for you in terms of location relative to the soccer. The El Encanto, as it seems you have discovered is the better value and is very nice, overlooking the city. It is less convenient for your event, but I like it better than RC. RC is on the beach, however, so that may push you back in that direction.

The other newer choice in town (albeit not quite the same level) is Hotel Californian (note the N at the end). It is located within a block of the beach and is a new build, opening about a year ago. It is a more urban location but depending on your interests, it is very well located for SB tourism. Bicycle rentals are close by, lots of beach, many local restaurants in walking distance, harbor and wharf walking distance, etc. The pool is on the rooftop and is small, so less of a resort atmosphere. Might be worth checking out.

El Encanto will be more quiet, removed from city and a bit more expensive. Hotel Californian should be a little cheaper and more in the middle of things you might want to see/do. RC, is most convenient but I don't like the property personally.

Edit: Something to note about the Hotel Californian is that the rooms are in two separate buildings across the street from each other. The all day dining restaurant is also in a separate building. I don't think this is a big deal but you might want to know this. Check out the photo gallery on their website and you'll get a good idea of the overall layout as they have a number of photos from the air that give you the flavor of the area.

Valveking

Thanks for the tip about the Hotel Californian. It looks very interesting. Another issue I have is that I have a FS credit I need to spend and I might need to swallow hard and book a few nights at the VERY expensive FS Biltmore.

enoscabell

San Ysidro Ranch will be open again by July. Doesn't get any better...

peter11

The FS is nice but I find many of the rooms too dark. Few are ocean view and most are north facing and buried in a jungle of landscape. Honestly, the FS In Santa Barbara makes some Hawaii FS resorts look barren. For some people that might be cathartic but for me it induces a bit of claustrophobia. I'd choose the El Encanto over FS and I'd still consider the Californian were I visiting Santa Barbara. The SY Ranch is reopening but that's a much higher rate.

Valveking

Thanks. I think we have decided to go with El Encanto. It seems to be the relative bargain here. The pictures kind of remind me of a resort you might see in the South of France which is fine with me!

obscure2k

I just learned today that the best mixologist we have ever known will be in charge of the Bar at Rosewood Miramar. We met William Perbellini when he moved to Bar Toscana in Brentwood following working at Cipriani Hotel in Venice. Bar Toscana was our local watering hole/trattoria and William elevated that venue to a destination due to his creative, artistic approach to cocktails. He was recruited by Mandarin/Waldorf in Las Vegas where he has been for a couple of years. He and his wife and young son are excited about his new position. I don't know if I will be staying at the Rosewood Miramar, but I know that we will definitely stop in for cocktails. Very happy for William and Miramar.