Top China hotels exposed for alleged unsanitary practices
Nov 15, 2018, 5:46 am
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Top China hotels exposed for alleged unsanitary practices
A blogger planted cameras in luxury hotels around China and found serious hygiene problems.
These hotels are definitely not cheap and one would expect a certain level of hygiene. This is just plain disgusting. I will never use a glass in any hotel bathroom again (have always had my suspicions about them to start with).
https://www.shine.cn/news/metro/1811155179/
These hotels are definitely not cheap and one would expect a certain level of hygiene. This is just plain disgusting. I will never use a glass in any hotel bathroom again (have always had my suspicions about them to start with).
https://www.shine.cn/news/metro/1811155179/
Nov 15, 2018, 6:32 am
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A blogger planted cameras in luxury hotels around China and found serious hygiene problems.
These hotels are definitely not cheap and one would expect a certain level of hygiene. This is just plain disgusting. I will never use a glass in any hotel bathroom again (have always had my suspicions about them to start with).
https://www.shine.cn/news/metro/1811155179/
These hotels are definitely not cheap and one would expect a certain level of hygiene. This is just plain disgusting. I will never use a glass in any hotel bathroom again (have always had my suspicions about them to start with).
https://www.shine.cn/news/metro/1811155179/
Thanks for the update.
Nov 15, 2018, 6:53 am
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Nov 15, 2018, 7:22 am
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For anyone curious about the 14 implicated hotels in the full video:
Waldorf Astoria Shanghai
Bulgari Shanghai
Mandarin Oriental Pudong
Four Seasons Shanghai (Pudong?)
PuLi Hotel
Royal Meridien Shanghai
Ritz Carlton Shanghai Pudong
Park Hyatt Beijing
Aman Summer Palace
Peninsula Beijing
Conrad Beijing
Shangri-La Fuzhou
Sheraton Guiyang
Some hotel in Nanjing (?)
Although it sounds like a pervasive issue so the problem probably spreads to most luxury hotels..
Waldorf Astoria Shanghai
Bulgari Shanghai
Mandarin Oriental Pudong
Four Seasons Shanghai (Pudong?)
PuLi Hotel
Royal Meridien Shanghai
Ritz Carlton Shanghai Pudong
Park Hyatt Beijing
Aman Summer Palace
Peninsula Beijing
Conrad Beijing
Shangri-La Fuzhou
Sheraton Guiyang
Some hotel in Nanjing (?)
Although it sounds like a pervasive issue so the problem probably spreads to most luxury hotels..
Nov 15, 2018, 8:43 am
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For anyone curious about the 14 implicated hotels in the full video:
Waldorf Astoria Shanghai
Bulgari Shanghai
Mandarin Oriental Pudong
Four Seasons Shanghai (Pudong?)
PuLi Hotel
Royal Meridien Shanghai
Ritz Carlton Shanghai Pudong
Park Hyatt Beijing
Aman Summer Palace
Peninsula Beijing
Conrad Beijing
Shangri-La Fuzhou
Sheraton Guiyang
Some hotel in Nanjing (?)
Although it sounds like a pervasive issue so the problem probably spreads to most luxury hotels..
Waldorf Astoria Shanghai
Bulgari Shanghai
Mandarin Oriental Pudong
Four Seasons Shanghai (Pudong?)
PuLi Hotel
Royal Meridien Shanghai
Ritz Carlton Shanghai Pudong
Park Hyatt Beijing
Aman Summer Palace
Peninsula Beijing
Conrad Beijing
Shangri-La Fuzhou
Sheraton Guiyang
Some hotel in Nanjing (?)
Although it sounds like a pervasive issue so the problem probably spreads to most luxury hotels..
Nov 15, 2018, 8:43 am
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Oh yes I did — this has been going on for a while now. IIRC started coming up in a different Chinese market and one of the hotel groups involved was Kempinski. Seems now also uncovered in Shanghai which is news indeed.
Nov 15, 2018, 9:27 am
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I am talking about a specific video that got released by the media today (read the article in my link). I have gone through your posts and there is no mention of the video i am talking about in that article. Maybe you are talking about another video of when it has happened previously.
Nov 15, 2018, 9:42 am
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hyatt specifically allows all PH and GH to outsource
very confusing...
an exposure linked back on jan 6 2018 >
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...l#post29300734
pretty sure i saw many more since then
BUT.. current exposure is owned Pen, aman
an exposure linked back on jan 6 2018 >
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...l#post29300734
pretty sure i saw many more since then
BUT.. current exposure is owned Pen, aman
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Nov 15, 2018 at 3:38 pm
Nov 16, 2018, 10:34 pm
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Different video - that one named 'lesser' brands to an extent - huge 500/600/800 etc room "luxury" hotels and in lower tier cities. This one's hit the real luxe ones in China and in the big cities, including a few of the boutique hotels.
Last edited by chinmoylad; Nov 16, 2018 at 10:46 pm
Nov 17, 2018, 3:07 am
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For anyone curious about the 14 implicated hotels in the full video:
Waldorf Astoria Shanghai
Bulgari Shanghai
Mandarin Oriental Pudong
Four Seasons Shanghai (Pudong?)
PuLi Hotel
Royal Meridien Shanghai
Ritz Carlton Shanghai Pudong
Park Hyatt Beijing
Aman Summer Palace
Peninsula Beijing
Conrad Beijing
Shangri-La Fuzhou
Sheraton Guiyang
Some hotel in Nanjing (?)
Although it sounds like a pervasive issue so the problem probably spreads to most luxury hotels..
Waldorf Astoria Shanghai
Bulgari Shanghai
Mandarin Oriental Pudong
Four Seasons Shanghai (Pudong?)
PuLi Hotel
Royal Meridien Shanghai
Ritz Carlton Shanghai Pudong
Park Hyatt Beijing
Aman Summer Palace
Peninsula Beijing
Conrad Beijing
Shangri-La Fuzhou
Sheraton Guiyang
Some hotel in Nanjing (?)
Although it sounds like a pervasive issue so the problem probably spreads to most luxury hotels..
Nov 17, 2018, 7:58 pm
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The last expose pertains to Harbin, which is a second/third tier city (which doesn't really have any top tier hotel, Shangri-La was the best they had).
This pertains to top tier properties in tier 1 Chinese cities. If these aren't safe, then it's probably reasonable to conclude that none of the properties in China are safe.
Nov 19, 2018, 4:47 pm
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I am talking about a specific video that got released by the media today (read the article in my link). I have gone through your posts and there is no mention of the video i am talking about in that article. Maybe you are talking about another video of when it has happened previously.
Last edited by KatW; Nov 23, 2018 at 5:07 pm
Jan 11, 2020, 6:14 am
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So I'm glad when I get a clean room
I have rashes and many other health problems when I stay at hotels. So even though I tend to stay at a luxury brand, whenever I check in at a fully booked hotel or after busy weekends, I clean cups myself and use wipes to clean the surface. If you have a lot of room to clean in a hurry, house keepers tend to do a lousy job. It's a fact.
Jan 13, 2020, 10:15 am
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This has to be one of the silliest things of 2020 so far....
LIFE is dirty.
I can’t imagine anyone expecting a hotel room to be cleaned to the same standards as a hospital.
I just can’t fathom someone being upset about any of this.
Does anyone here have kids?
Every been in a public space?
Every been outside?
Come on gang, we’ve got to find more important things to spend our time complaining about online.
LIFE is dirty.
I can’t imagine anyone expecting a hotel room to be cleaned to the same standards as a hospital.
I just can’t fathom someone being upset about any of this.
Does anyone here have kids?
Every been in a public space?
Every been outside?
Come on gang, we’ve got to find more important things to spend our time complaining about online.