Jan 21, 2019, 9:52 pm
Last edit by: RichardInSF
Reviews of Tokyo hotels to be found in dedicated threads (If you review another Tokyo luxury hotel, put it in a thread and add a link here, thanks!)
Aman Tokyo (not a formal review but as detailed as one) -- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/show...ferrerid=14479
Mandarin Oriental Tokyo -- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/show...ferrerid=14479
Peninsula Tokyo -- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/show...ferrerid=14479
Park Hyatt Tokyo -- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/show...ferrerid=14479
The Prince Gallery Tokyo Kioicho -- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/show...ferrerid=14479
The Prince Gallery Tokyo Kioicho from luxury perspective — https://www.flyertalk.com/hotel-revi...d-service-2620
Aman Tokyo (not a formal review but as detailed as one) -- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/show...ferrerid=14479
Mandarin Oriental Tokyo -- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/show...ferrerid=14479
Peninsula Tokyo -- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/show...ferrerid=14479
Park Hyatt Tokyo -- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/show...ferrerid=14479
The Prince Gallery Tokyo Kioicho -- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/show...ferrerid=14479
The Prince Gallery Tokyo Kioicho from luxury perspective — https://www.flyertalk.com/hotel-revi...d-service-2620
Tokyo luxury hotels (newer consolidated thread)
Dec 5, 2018, 5:01 pm
#166
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As I mentioned in my original post on this topic, the value proposition at Conrad comes from 1) using points for base rooms or 2) paying for suites.
To put it in perspective, the last two times I stayed at Conrad, the King Suite Bay View was cheaper than a base room at the Palace over the same dates.
To put it in perspective, the last two times I stayed at Conrad, the King Suite Bay View was cheaper than a base room at the Palace over the same dates.
The Palace is indeed an excellent hotel, but as you suggest, you don't get as much for your dollar at the Palace. Yes it has probably the best collection of hotel restaurants in Tokyo, but these are available to anyone, no stay required.
Dec 6, 2018, 8:08 am
#167
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Very pleased and relieved that our accommodation is confirmed for next October / November during the RWC . This includes primarily AmanTokyo and somewhere else booked by others for a couple of nights .
Dec 7, 2018, 12:24 am
#168
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Weirdly enough, the dates I'm looking at Sakura and PG are essentially the same rate, while the Ritz is asking for twice as much... But reviews aren't great? Is it really twice as good or better at all? Reviews seem to actually favour PG over Ritz on here...
(I don't consider location a factor, given that both hotels are pretty much next to metro stations which get you anywhere very quickly anyway).
Is it a notable improvement in hard & soft product over the Sakura? (which would be our other go-to)
(I don't consider location a factor, given that both hotels are pretty much next to metro stations which get you anywhere very quickly anyway).
Is it a notable improvement in hard & soft product over the Sakura? (which would be our other go-to)
Last edited by Smiley90; Dec 7, 2018 at 12:43 am
Dec 7, 2018, 1:43 am
#169
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Weirdly enough, the dates I'm looking at Sakura and PG are essentially the same rate, while the Ritz is asking for twice as much... But reviews aren't great? Is it really twice as good or better at all? Reviews seem to actually favour PG over Ritz on here...
(I don't consider location a factor, given that both hotels are pretty much next to metro stations which get you anywhere very quickly anyway).
Is it a notable improvement in hard & soft product over the Sakura? (which would be our other go-to)
(I don't consider location a factor, given that both hotels are pretty much next to metro stations which get you anywhere very quickly anyway).
Is it a notable improvement in hard & soft product over the Sakura? (which would be our other go-to)
Dec 7, 2018, 9:17 am
#170
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Weirdly enough, the dates I'm looking at Sakura and PG are essentially the same rate, while the Ritz is asking for twice as much... But reviews aren't great? Is it really twice as good or better at all? Reviews seem to actually favour PG over Ritz on here...
(I don't consider location a factor, given that both hotels are pretty much next to metro stations which get you anywhere very quickly anyway).
Is it a notable improvement in hard & soft product over the Sakura? (which would be our other go-to)
(I don't consider location a factor, given that both hotels are pretty much next to metro stations which get you anywhere very quickly anyway).
Is it a notable improvement in hard & soft product over the Sakura? (which would be our other go-to)
The PG stands heads and shoulders above the Sakura. The PG is a proper 5* luxury hotel; the Sakura is at best a dated 4* property.
If you value a Club/lounge and are Marriott Platinum status or better, the PG allows free access to its very nice Executive Lounge. The RC Tokyo Club is legendary, but you must pay more to access it and special Club level concierge services. The PG concierge team is available to all guests and is a top notch concierge team that got us bookings for the best in the city.
We stay at Amans around the world but chose the PG. We’d return to the PG in a second. We’d never consider the Sakura.
Dec 7, 2018, 9:24 am
#171
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The PG hard product is among the best in Tokyo, exceeded IMO only by the amazing Aman Tokyo and its absurdly high price point. The PG hard product is superior even to that of the RC, assuming you appreciate modern Art Deco inspired design vs a bit more traditional design at the RC.
The PG stands heads and shoulders above the Sakura. The PG is a proper 5* luxury hotel; the Sakura is at best a dated 4* property.
If you value a Club/lounge and are Marriott Platinum status or better, the PG allows free access to its very nice Executive Lounge. The RC Tokyo Club is legendary, but you must pay more to access it and special Club level concierge services. The PG concierge team is available to all guests and is a top notch concierge team that got us bookings for the best in the city.
We stay at Amans around the world but chose the PG. We’d return to the PG in a second. We’d never consider the Sakura.
A no-brainer if the rates are the same between PG and Sakura too.
I've always enjoyed my high teas, dinners and stays at RC Tokyo but they're definitely a splurge.
Last edited by Aventine; Dec 7, 2018 at 9:31 am
Dec 10, 2018, 5:45 pm
#172
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Hi, Looking for advice in relation to Hoshinoya, Shangri La or FSM. We are travelling with our 6 yo and fly into Haneda late (for a child at least) and depart via Narita. During our stay we need to access the Zoo, the Sumo and possibly Disneyland. I like the idea of Hoshinoya but am concerned for first timers in Tokyo with Ski luggage it may not provide the best access. (I have been to Tokyo several times years ago but not with family in tow.)
Dec 10, 2018, 7:50 pm
#173
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Hi, Looking for advice in relation to Hoshinoya, Shangri La or FSM. We are travelling with our 6 yo and fly into Haneda late (for a child at least) and depart via Narita. During our stay we need to access the Zoo, the Sumo and possibly Disneyland. I like the idea of Hoshinoya but am concerned for first timers in Tokyo with Ski luggage it may not provide the best access. (I have been to Tokyo several times years ago but not with family in tow.)
FSM or SLA would be easier in terms of proximity to Tokyo Station if that's a factor for you. This makes the transfers to/from the airports as well as any Shinkansen journeys very simple. I believe both of these hotels will provide porter services to the station.
You mention ski equipment, are you planning to catch the Nagano shinkansen?
Dec 10, 2018, 8:30 pm
#174
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Hi, Looking for advice in relation to Hoshinoya, Shangri La or FSM. We are travelling with our 6 yo and fly into Haneda late (for a child at least) and depart via Narita. During our stay we need to access the Zoo, the Sumo and possibly Disneyland. I like the idea of Hoshinoya but am concerned for first timers in Tokyo with Ski luggage it may not provide the best access. (I have been to Tokyo several times years ago but not with family in tow.)
Dec 10, 2018, 8:44 pm
#175
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FSM or SLA would be easier in terms of proximity to Tokyo Station if that's a factor for you. This makes the transfers to/from the airports as well as any Shinkansen journeys very simple. I believe both of these hotels will provide porter services to the station.
You mention ski equipment, are you planning to catch the Nagano shinkansen?
You mention ski equipment, are you planning to catch the Nagano shinkansen?
Dec 10, 2018, 9:08 pm
#177
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One great option to consider is to do what the locals do and use a "Black Cat" luggage forwarding service. Basically when you're done skiing, peel off a couple of larger bags and ski equipment and your hotel will forward them straight to Narita airport.
Then just travel from Hokkaido to Tokyo with what you need for your time in Tokyo, and your larger bags will be awaiting for you at Narita when you're leaving Japan. Too easy and very cheap.
https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2278.html
https://www.kanpai-japan.com/travel-...ending-luggage
Your scenario is pretty much the perfect use-case for this service.
Dec 10, 2018, 9:31 pm
#178
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Ah ok, so I understand you are skiing first, then visiting Tokyo and finally flying out of Narita.
One great option to consider is to do what the locals do and use a "Black Cat" luggage forwarding service. Basically when you're done skiing, peel off a couple of larger bags and ski equipment and your hotel will forward them straight to Narita airport.
Then just travel from Hokkaido to Tokyo with what you need for your time in Tokyo, and your larger bags will be awaiting for you at Narita when you're leaving Japan. Too easy and very cheap.
https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2278.html
https://www.kanpai-japan.com/travel-...ending-luggage
Your scenario is pretty much the perfect use-case for this service.
One great option to consider is to do what the locals do and use a "Black Cat" luggage forwarding service. Basically when you're done skiing, peel off a couple of larger bags and ski equipment and your hotel will forward them straight to Narita airport.
Then just travel from Hokkaido to Tokyo with what you need for your time in Tokyo, and your larger bags will be awaiting for you at Narita when you're leaving Japan. Too easy and very cheap.
https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2278.html
https://www.kanpai-japan.com/travel-...ending-luggage
Your scenario is pretty much the perfect use-case for this service.
Shangrila is more luxurious than FSM. In much better hardware shape too and somewhat closer to the JR lines headed to Disneyland. I found FSM to be very tired and not worth the rates they are asking for.
Last edited by Aventine; Dec 10, 2018 at 9:37 pm
Dec 10, 2018, 9:55 pm
#179
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That's a great recommendation. The less bags the better because a Tokyo taxi doesn't have the pass through for skis.
Shangrila is more luxurious than FSM. In much better hardware shape too and somewhat closer to the JR lines headed to Disneyland. I found FSM to be very tired and not worth the rates they are asking for.
Shangrila is more luxurious than FSM. In much better hardware shape too and somewhat closer to the JR lines headed to Disneyland. I found FSM to be very tired and not worth the rates they are asking for.
Dec 10, 2018, 10:15 pm
#180
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You'll be fine!
