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London hotels with a wealth of detailed posts, 2013 - 2017
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London Hotel Recommendations (newer consolidated thread)
Feb 4, 2019, 12:08 pm
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ritz (and savoy?) did downgrade their dress codes some
sold hotel residences including townhouses, first two have no hotel rooms.
land was available, hotel brands want the revenue and marketing to owners.
peninsula owns their development, presumably dorchester owns theirs too
obviously these would follow existing MO considering sale prices there
sold hotel residences including townhouses, first two have no hotel rooms.
land was available, hotel brands want the revenue and marketing to owners.
peninsula owns their development, presumably dorchester owns theirs too
obviously these would follow existing MO considering sale prices there
Feb 4, 2019, 12:23 pm
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~75% - manila / beijing / yangon 2021
50% - shanghai 2009 / bangkok / istanbul 2020
20% - paris 2014 / beverly hills 1991
(aug 2017 their bangkok partner exercised option to buy 25%)
Feb 4, 2019, 1:12 pm
#168
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ritz (and savoy?) did downgrade their dress codes some
sold hotel residences including townhouses, first two have no hotel rooms.
land was available, hotel brands want the revenue and marketing to owners.
peninsula owns their development, presumably dorchester owns theirs too
obviously these would follow existing MO considering sale prices there
sold hotel residences including townhouses, first two have no hotel rooms.
land was available, hotel brands want the revenue and marketing to owners.
peninsula owns their development, presumably dorchester owns theirs too
obviously these would follow existing MO considering sale prices there
Dorchester and MO are being developed and owned by Clivedale (India Bulls).
Feb 4, 2019, 1:36 pm
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2017 80 MO - only 50 rooms
2016 37 FS - first non hotel
2015 18 dorchester - next to 45 park lane, first non-owned after dropping geneva
2013 24 > 28 peninsula
announcement timing, peninsula sales may be years away
older >
6 > 7 bvlgari
what are current resale prices at MO hyde park
2016 37 FS - first non hotel
2015 18 dorchester - next to 45 park lane, first non-owned after dropping geneva
2013 24 > 28 peninsula
announcement timing, peninsula sales may be years away
older >
6 > 7 bvlgari
what are current resale prices at MO hyde park
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Feb 4, 2019 at 2:00 pm
Feb 4, 2019, 1:41 pm
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I have to say that I had my first stay at the Lanesborough this past weekend. It was only a 1 night stay at a mistake rate of BP 350 (on the LHW site). I do not dress up when I travel, am African-American and not small in size. I will say, my clothes, shoes, watch, luggage are on the expensive side - but overall dress I very casual. Including flip flops (regardless of weather). I note I did take them off and put regular shoes for the check-in (only b/c I was on a mistake rate). Welcome and check-in went great, upgraded to DLX Room with walk-in shower, given full LHW amenities, and was extended late check-out to 6 pm - which I did not require. Butler was very nice - but I did not use him during my stay. Room service was great - two attendants delivered food on a cart that had to be carried up the two stairs from the entry foyer. Service was always with a smile and at no time did I feel like they looked down on me given the low rate, race, size, dress, style, looks, etc. I was very impressed with this hotel and my stay. I am staying there again on the same mistake rate in March for 2 nights ad will see if anything changes.
Contrast this to my experience at the Shangri-La London, who asked me every time I entered the building could they help me or what did I want. I was asked to show my key at one point to proceed to the guests elevators from the lobby level (despite the fact you need the key in the elevator to press your floor).
Contrast this to my experience at the Shangri-La London, who asked me every time I entered the building could they help me or what did I want. I was asked to show my key at one point to proceed to the guests elevators from the lobby level (despite the fact you need the key in the elevator to press your floor).
Feb 4, 2019, 1:46 pm
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wonder if Lanesborough due to abu dhabi ownership, was well regarded prior to oetker under st regis and rosewood, also wonder if oetker and st regis were really interested in getting the contract
for FS it was a brand element under founder
for FS it was a brand element under founder
Feb 5, 2019, 2:55 am
#172
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2017 80 MO - only 50 rooms
2016 37 FS - first non hotel
2015 18 dorchester - next to 45 park lane, first non-owned after dropping geneva
2013 24 > 28 peninsula
announcement timing, peninsula sales may be years away
older >
6 > 7 bvlgari
what are current resale prices at MO hyde park
2016 37 FS - first non hotel
2015 18 dorchester - next to 45 park lane, first non-owned after dropping geneva
2013 24 > 28 peninsula
announcement timing, peninsula sales may be years away
older >
6 > 7 bvlgari
what are current resale prices at MO hyde park
A friend recently rented in One Hyde Park for about £7k a week on a 12m contract for a 3 bed.
Feb 5, 2019, 9:28 am
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Contrast this to my experience at the Shangri-La London, who asked me every time I entered the building could they help me or what did I want. I was asked to show my key at one point to proceed to the guests elevators from the lobby level (despite the fact you need the key in the elevator to press your floor).
Feb 6, 2019, 6:35 am
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They only seemed to stop the people of color (i.e. the darker people of color). I was stopped each time, and once I was with 3 non-minorities, and I was the only person asked where I was going in the group.
Feb 6, 2019, 8:10 am
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Very unfortunate. I hope you articulated your displeasure to senior management?
Feb 6, 2019, 9:35 am
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Off topic from the current discussion, but any of the Londoners heard of/visited/stayed here?
The Arts Club Hotel
The Arts Club Hotel
Feb 6, 2019, 10:20 am
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Feb 6, 2019, 10:27 am
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Off topic from the current discussion, but any of the Londoners heard of/visited/stayed here?
The Arts Club Hotel
The Arts Club Hotel
Feb 6, 2019, 2:51 pm
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Off topic from the current discussion, but any of the Londoners heard of/visited/stayed here?
The Arts Club Hotel
The Arts Club Hotel
It doesn’t look like the rooms get booked up that much as they’re extending the Japanese restaurant into one of the hot room floors.