Feb 12, 2018, 5:37 pm
Amanresorts Thread 2018
Jun 11, 2018, 8:23 pm
#286
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I’ve got a couple more nights, and will then post some overall thoughts.
Jun 18, 2018, 8:21 am
#288
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now might be the time to visit amanera considering following just posted
low season ends jun 30, from $1200, seasonal closure scheduled for aug 15
3 nights gets full board, 5th nt is free, US amex FHR also has 4th nt free
low season ends jun 30, from $1200, seasonal closure scheduled for aug 15
3 nights gets full board, 5th nt is free, US amex FHR also has 4th nt free
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Jun 20, 2018 at 10:42 am
Jun 24, 2018, 5:04 pm
#289
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Is there any practical way to do a large amount of laundry (wash and fold) at Amanjiwo or Amankila? This is the longest trip we’ve been on to date and would love to be able to wash clothes halfway through the trip, but I’m certainly not paying $5 USD to wash a pair of underwear.
Does anyone have any experience with sending out a few lbs/kgs of laundry at either resort? This does make me miss the Chedi Club Ubud and Amantaka and their included laundry service.
Does anyone have any experience with sending out a few lbs/kgs of laundry at either resort? This does make me miss the Chedi Club Ubud and Amantaka and their included laundry service.
Jun 24, 2018, 5:20 pm
#290
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how many pairs of underoos are we talking about? Are you a three a day type of guy?
Jun 24, 2018, 6:01 pm
#291
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Jun 24, 2018, 10:35 pm
#292
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for those here in the know, when does Amanzoe generally release reservation availability for the following year? Was trying to see rates for next May, but the whole month of May and June are blocked (I feel like Amans are pretty good about showing availability way out). Or is this because of the rumored sale mentioned earlier in this thread?
Jun 25, 2018, 3:48 am
#293
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I wouldn't recommend Amanyara personally, unless perhaps if you're a big scuba diver--as there is great diving really close. Even with us being major divers, though, the inland pool pavilion arrangement just doesn't appeal to us for the price. We'd be more likely to try COMO Parrot Cay or Grace Bay for the cost/benefit.
For a US property, go to Amangiri. Period, end. It's spectacular. It's almost always at high occupancy but it's still tremendous IMO. We are toying with returning in Jan for my birthday. We first went in April 2015 for our 5th wedding anniversary--and knew we'd return. Loved it.
You also can try Amangani, but I recommend it less for skiing and more to just explore the town and Grand Teton National Park (and Yellowstone before/afterward). We've been twice. It's less pricey than Giri, but also a bit less "Aman-ish" than Giri, too. But we absolutely love Jackson.
For a US property, go to Amangiri. Period, end. It's spectacular. It's almost always at high occupancy but it's still tremendous IMO. We are toying with returning in Jan for my birthday. We first went in April 2015 for our 5th wedding anniversary--and knew we'd return. Loved it.
You also can try Amangani, but I recommend it less for skiing and more to just explore the town and Grand Teton National Park (and Yellowstone before/afterward). We've been twice. It's less pricey than Giri, but also a bit less "Aman-ish" than Giri, too. But we absolutely love Jackson.
Is there any practical way to do a large amount of laundry (wash and fold) at Amanjiwo or Amankila? This is the longest trip we’ve been on to date and would love to be able to wash clothes halfway through the trip, but I’m certainly not paying $5 USD to wash a pair of underwear.
Does anyone have any experience with sending out a few lbs/kgs of laundry at either resort? This does make me miss the Chedi Club Ubud and Amantaka and their included laundry service.
Does anyone have any experience with sending out a few lbs/kgs of laundry at either resort? This does make me miss the Chedi Club Ubud and Amantaka and their included laundry service.
for those here in the know, when does Amanzoe generally release reservation availability for the following year? Was trying to see rates for next May, but the whole month of May and June are blocked (I feel like Amans are pretty good about showing availability way out). Or is this because of the rumored sale mentioned earlier in this thread?
Best email GMs for information .
Waiting for Ernst & Ian to reply about laundry as I can ‘ t recall charges .
From The Ultimate Guide to Four Seasons Hotels & Resorts Thread
As with the Aman threads, I find that too many FTers (especially TAs) are overly concerned with internal GM and senior management moves. A great GM is important, but there (more often than not) are plenty of new blood managers who, given the chance, also can do a great job. If the hotel group is as impressive as we like to believe, there should be plenty of good managers to go around.
I think too many (especially TAs) may be more concerned about losing a personal connection (and any concomitant booking advantage) with a specific GM or senior manager than with any actual change in quality of experience for most guests. IMO these discussions have much more to do with regime change more than any change in experience for the overwhelming majority of guests.
I think too many (especially TAs) may be more concerned about losing a personal connection (and any concomitant booking advantage) with a specific GM or senior manager than with any actual change in quality of experience for most guests. IMO these discussions have much more to do with regime change more than any change in experience for the overwhelming majority of guests.
These new HQ & regional folks have no idea of true Aman ethos / standards . They underestimate the slippery track they have embarked on . Have noticed cost cutting measures & plus good - more like priceless - team members they are letting go , happening at a faster pace it seems like .
New GMs ( or are they even replacing HMs ? who have been key ) often have no inkling what AMANjunkies have appreciated through the years . Coming from FS or whichever “ lesser “ firm , these individuals often do not quite make the cut . But as we know , the Aman now is not the one by AZ , thankfully there are still faithful long serving staff who understand
Newer AMANjunkies do not know what they are missing . Some wonder what we are raving about
All IndoAmans charge for laundry .
Last edited by FlyerEC; Jul 2, 2018 at 2:38 am Reason: Add information
Jun 25, 2018, 7:30 am
#294
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Is there any practical way to do a large amount of laundry (wash and fold) at Amanjiwo or Amankila? This is the longest trip we’ve been on to date and would love to be able to wash clothes halfway through the trip, but I’m certainly not paying $5 USD to wash a pair of underwear.
Does anyone have any experience with sending out a few lbs/kgs of laundry at either resort? This does make me miss the Chedi Club Ubud and Amantaka and their included laundry service.
Does anyone have any experience with sending out a few lbs/kgs of laundry at either resort? This does make me miss the Chedi Club Ubud and Amantaka and their included laundry service.
You can probably get all of your things done for one to two hundred thousand rupiah.
Last edited by A4K; Jun 25, 2018 at 7:39 am
Jun 25, 2018, 7:48 am
#295
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hmm, behind beach cabanas at zoe >
at zoe email sven , even though aman changed hands in 2014, 'generally' may not always apply (yet?)
sale is not rumor, dolphin 'plan' to sell entire portfolio by end of 2019 unless they do another vote
dolphinci.com/wp-content/uploads/DCI_Annual_Report_2017.pdf
original (vs "new") "asset strategy" was to keep zoe and a few others
i highlighted great reports at several aman under current external hire GMs, very good to hear
if aman becomes procedure oriented (i dont think likely) it will not be able to deliver 'peak' service - edit : by this i mean exclusively procedure oriented, rather than having (new) procedures
at zoe email sven , even though aman changed hands in 2014, 'generally' may not always apply (yet?)
sale is not rumor, dolphin 'plan' to sell entire portfolio by end of 2019 unless they do another vote
The Company adopted the New Asset Strategy in December 2016, which was designed to effect the orderly sale of the Company’s projects on an asset by asset basis, in the light of prevailing market conditions and circumstances, in a controlled and timely manner in order to realise their value by 31 December 2019.
original (vs "new") "asset strategy" was to keep zoe and a few others
i highlighted great reports at several aman under current external hire GMs, very good to hear
if aman becomes procedure oriented (i dont think likely) it will not be able to deliver 'peak' service - edit : by this i mean exclusively procedure oriented, rather than having (new) procedures
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Jun 25, 2018 at 9:00 am
Jun 25, 2018, 8:24 am
#296
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Is there any practical way to do a large amount of laundry (wash and fold) at Amanjiwo or Amankila? This is the longest trip we’ve been on to date and would love to be able to wash clothes halfway through the trip, but I’m certainly not paying $5 USD to wash a pair of underwear.
Does anyone have any experience with sending out a few lbs/kgs of laundry at either resort? This does make me miss the Chedi Club Ubud and Amantaka and their included laundry service.
Does anyone have any experience with sending out a few lbs/kgs of laundry at either resort? This does make me miss the Chedi Club Ubud and Amantaka and their included laundry service.
Jun 25, 2018, 8:48 am
#297
Join Date: Dec 2006
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hmm, behind beach cabanas at zoe >
at zoe email sven , even though aman changed hands in 2014, 'generally' may not always apply (yet?)
sale is not rumor, dolphin 'plan' to sell entire portfolio by end of 2019 unless they do another vote
dolphinci.com/wp-content/uploads/DCI_Annual_Report_2017.pdf
original (vs "new") "asset strategy" was to keep zoe and a few others
i highlighted great reports at several aman under current external hire GMs, very good to hear
if aman becomes procedure oriented (i dont think likely) it will not be able to deliver 'peak' service
at zoe email sven , even though aman changed hands in 2014, 'generally' may not always apply (yet?)
sale is not rumor, dolphin 'plan' to sell entire portfolio by end of 2019 unless they do another vote
dolphinci.com/wp-content/uploads/DCI_Annual_Report_2017.pdf
original (vs "new") "asset strategy" was to keep zoe and a few others
i highlighted great reports at several aman under current external hire GMs, very good to hear
if aman becomes procedure oriented (i dont think likely) it will not be able to deliver 'peak' service
It is already happening , not that the GMs or ‘ management ‘ at the properties want or need it . With the many hires at HQ & regional offices calling the shots unlike before .. policies & procedural .. ( not to mention bean counting outlook ) unheard of previously .
With such interference , the smooth running of each Aman is in jeopardy .
Plus catering to the ‘ masses ‘ / social media types
One would have expected better
Last edited by FlyerEC; Jun 25, 2018 at 6:48 pm
Jun 26, 2018, 1:34 pm
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You must read between the lines then about faithful staff holding up , etcetera . There is hope till they retire & perhaps the “ newbies “ hopefully get it before they do .
It is already happening , not that the GMs or ‘ management ‘ at the properties want or need it . With the many hires at HQ & regional offices calling the shots unlike before .. policies & procedural .. ( not to mention bean counting outlook ) unheard of previously .
With such interference , the smooth running of each Aman is in jeopardy .
Plus catering to the ‘ masses ‘ / social media types
One would have expected better
Jul 14, 2018, 5:28 pm
#299
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They are currently cramming Puri .. More treatment rooms in spa , in same space . Ready by September ?
More pool pavilions , just adding pools to some current .
New kids area still being constructed by Beach Club ; there goes a sanctuary .. Aman indeed
Excellent HM left ( did I put this disappointing information somewhere before ? & no more with Amans .. ) & new - new - arriving next month .
More pool pavilions , just adding pools to some current .
New kids area still being constructed by Beach Club ; there goes a sanctuary
.. Aman indeedExcellent HM left ( did I put this disappointing information somewhere before ? & no more with Amans .. ) & new - new - arriving next month .
Last edited by FlyerEC; Jul 14, 2018 at 5:38 pm
Jul 14, 2018, 6:41 pm
#300
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[QUOTE=FlyerEC;29974299]
They are currently cramming Puri .. More treatment rooms in spa , in same space . Ready by September ?
More pool pavilions , just adding pools to some current .
New kids area still being constructed by Beach Club ; there goes a sanctuary .. Aman indeed
Excellent HM left ( did I put this disappointing information somewhere before ? & no more with Amans .. ) & new - new - arriving next
why Don’t you like children? Pls Elaborate
They are currently cramming Puri .. More treatment rooms in spa , in same space . Ready by September ?
More pool pavilions , just adding pools to some current .
New kids area still being constructed by Beach Club ; there goes a sanctuary
.. Aman indeedExcellent HM left ( did I put this disappointing information somewhere before ? & no more with Amans .. ) & new - new - arriving next
why Don’t you like children? Pls Elaborate