Feb 12, 2018, 5:37 pm
Amanresorts Thread 2018
Apr 1, 2018, 8:36 am
#151
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Apr 1, 2018, 10:54 am
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Apr 1, 2018, 10:55 am
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are you saying aman is doing press release after it? if so that'd be the change under new ownership, rather than buyouts
as noted, one problem is large groups etc when not buyout, which was an issue even at aman prior to current ownership
increasing occupancy and different guests is another issue, but certain original amans will never be flashy hard product etc
as noted, one problem is large groups etc when not buyout, which was an issue even at aman prior to current ownership
increasing occupancy and different guests is another issue, but certain original amans will never be flashy hard product etc
Apr 1, 2018, 11:06 am
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Haven't seen any press releases from Aman's side so I think this is purely from Omega's camp.
I agree with the posters who have said that if this is done as a buyout, it would be more acceptable. I'm just not certain it was the case but will give them the benefit.
Large groups as long as it's a private party is for some irrational reason not as bad for me. It's when I see it as something corporate and transactional that I get turned off. I suppose it's because I view Amans purely as escapes and vacation destinations other than places to get some sort of business accomplished.
I agree with the posters who have said that if this is done as a buyout, it would be more acceptable. I'm just not certain it was the case but will give them the benefit.
Large groups as long as it's a private party is for some irrational reason not as bad for me. It's when I see it as something corporate and transactional that I get turned off. I suppose it's because I view Amans purely as escapes and vacation destinations other than places to get some sort of business accomplished.
Apr 1, 2018, 11:15 am
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corporate buyouts are not new at aman nor any other small resort properties
one change (over time) is simply the internet, in terms of content like linked above (from omega)
although yes, if those corporate buyouts have press onsite, that was likely rare at aman in past
one change (over time) is simply the internet, in terms of content like linked above (from omega)
although yes, if those corporate buyouts have press onsite, that was likely rare at aman in past
Apr 1, 2018, 1:08 pm
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Apr 1, 2018, 1:14 pm
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Combining this with the main Aman 2018 thread.
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Apr 1, 2018, 9:14 pm
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Haven't seen any press releases from Aman's side so I think this is purely from Omega's camp.
I agree with the posters who have said that if this is done as a buyout, it would be more acceptable. I'm just not certain it was the case but will give them the benefit.
Large groups as long as it's a private party is for some irrational reason not as bad for me. It's when I see it as something corporate and transactional that I get turned off. I suppose it's because I view Amans purely as escapes and vacation destinations other than places to get some sort of business accomplished.
I agree with the posters who have said that if this is done as a buyout, it would be more acceptable. I'm just not certain it was the case but will give them the benefit.
Large groups as long as it's a private party is for some irrational reason not as bad for me. It's when I see it as something corporate and transactional that I get turned off. I suppose it's because I view Amans purely as escapes and vacation destinations other than places to get some sort of business accomplished.
Apr 2, 2018, 5:50 am
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Aman ( service ) is where you can and are ‘ expected ‘ to ask for literally anything , within legal means 
Nothing - no requests - really shocks or surprises teams at any Amans .
Even if it is a minute walk , have Aman assist , you never know what you can / may encounter in between . They will only be too pleased to help .
Welcome to the Aman life
Nothing - no requests - really shocks or surprises teams at any Amans .Even if it is a minute walk , have Aman assist , you never know what you can / may encounter in between . They will only be too pleased to help .
Welcome to the Aman life
. I'm going to start planning all the outrageous requests I should be making 
...
Apr 2, 2018, 7:47 am
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I just came across this bit of news that Omega had a corporate event at Amanpulo https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/n...a-at-amanpulo/
I wish it were a bad April Fool's joke but it's not.
Could I ask if this is normal practice and how the rest of you feel about this?
Amanpulo was the first Aman that I visited and what started my love for the brand and their philosophy. Aman for me means exclusivity and the "residential" feel of being the guest of a friend with resources rather than of a big corporate entity. In the past, I'd always find only like-minded travelers who placed premiums on privacy and discretion. That's the main reason I would choose them over a nearby Four Seasons, which would almost always be able to provide everything else at the same level.
To find out that they now celebrate product launches where media personalities (and social media influencers
) are invited and handed out press kits is very disappointing. It feels completely off and now removes what I thought was a key differentiating factor.
In addition, why Omega? Don't brands usually associate with "likes."
The hierarchy of luxury hotel groupings established in this forum goes
Aman, FS
Oetker, Belmond, etc.
Shangri-la, Intercontinental
Correspondingly, the Swatch Group brands go
Breguet
Blancpain
My Omega
If you flip through the Four Seasons Magazine, you'll always run into ads for Patek Philippe. Since they both claim and are widely acknowledged as being at the top of the pyramid, it makes sense.
I believe that brand association with Omega devalues Aman. Brilliant move of course for Omega's executives who are able to raise themselves but shouldn't there be some restriction here?
I wish it were a bad April Fool's joke but it's not.
Could I ask if this is normal practice and how the rest of you feel about this?
Amanpulo was the first Aman that I visited and what started my love for the brand and their philosophy. Aman for me means exclusivity and the "residential" feel of being the guest of a friend with resources rather than of a big corporate entity. In the past, I'd always find only like-minded travelers who placed premiums on privacy and discretion. That's the main reason I would choose them over a nearby Four Seasons, which would almost always be able to provide everything else at the same level.
To find out that they now celebrate product launches where media personalities (and social media influencers
) are invited and handed out press kits is very disappointing. It feels completely off and now removes what I thought was a key differentiating factor.In addition, why Omega? Don't brands usually associate with "likes."
The hierarchy of luxury hotel groupings established in this forum goes
Aman, FS
Oetker, Belmond, etc.
Shangri-la, Intercontinental
Correspondingly, the Swatch Group brands go
Breguet
Blancpain
My Omega
If you flip through the Four Seasons Magazine, you'll always run into ads for Patek Philippe. Since they both claim and are widely acknowledged as being at the top of the pyramid, it makes sense.
I believe that brand association with Omega devalues Aman. Brilliant move of course for Omega's executives who are able to raise themselves but shouldn't there be some restriction here?
Apr 2, 2018, 10:05 am
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Haven't seen any press releases from Aman's side so I think this is purely from Omega's camp.
I agree with the posters who have said that if this is done as a buyout, it would be more acceptable. I'm just not certain it was the case but will give them the benefit.
Large groups as long as it's a private party is for some irrational reason not as bad for me. It's when I see it as something corporate and transactional that I get turned off. I suppose it's because I view Amans purely as escapes and vacation destinations other than places to get some sort of business accomplished.
I agree with the posters who have said that if this is done as a buyout, it would be more acceptable. I'm just not certain it was the case but will give them the benefit.
Large groups as long as it's a private party is for some irrational reason not as bad for me. It's when I see it as something corporate and transactional that I get turned off. I suppose it's because I view Amans purely as escapes and vacation destinations other than places to get some sort of business accomplished.
This sounds more like a personal issue of prestige for you rather than anything that in any way impacts Aman or its quality or reputation.
Apr 2, 2018, 3:20 pm
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thanks TheBrownPrince and synd for posting, many here really appreciate it.
that is a real problem, especially if they did not alert guests. i guess theoretically it could be a case of past events not being described here in detail. reaction to non-buyouts has been almost entirely (extremely) negative here, and that was not even at aman but at properties many times the size of aman.
some tiny properties limit number of rooms etc a group can book, guess not the case at aman now.
makes me feel it is a requirement (for me) to book very last minute, rather than just preferring to.
My parents were staying at the same time the Omega group was there, for their last few nights. They had blocked off all the casitas on the island, but the villas were still available to other guests. It didn't bother my parents a bit and they had few running with the Omega crowd.
some tiny properties limit number of rooms etc a group can book, guess not the case at aman now.
makes me feel it is a requirement (for me) to book very last minute, rather than just preferring to.
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Apr 3, 2018, 3:06 am
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My parents were staying at the same time the Omega group was there, for their last few nights. They had blocked off all the casitas on the island, but the villas were still available to other guests. It didn't bother my parents a bit and they had few running with the Omega crowd. Personally it doesnt bother me that a company host an event at a resort, in the same way I might want to host my wedding there.
Bhrubin, I wish it were just an issue of prestige but I consider it one of privacy as well. Press people and commercial bloggers were invited. Quite a few well known people check into Amans (and praise them for their discretion). Some exposure risk is to be expected of course, even at other very high-end properties... but I was under the illusion that Aman was different.
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Apr 3, 2018, 9:51 am
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previously >
yara >
galla on another website >
perhaps someone here will hear how pulo handled it / guests
GM also makes a difference, even when decision by corporate
pulo - more than 20 casitas requires buyout (40 casitas + 11 villas)
galla - 20 guests (10 rooms) requires buyout (29 rooms)
jena - "traditional Moroccan wedding celebration" requires buyout (39 villas)
galla - 20 guests (10 rooms) requires buyout (29 rooms)
jena - "traditional Moroccan wedding celebration" requires buyout (39 villas)
2 to 30 guests. However, for larger events (up to 220 guests), the resort can be booked in its entirety at certain times of the year. Please note, due to the small size of our resort, a minimum three-night stay for 80 per cent of the attending guests is required in order to hold a larger wedding at Amanyara.
weddings for up to 20 guests, though at least 10 rooms must be booked. Over 20 guests requires a buy-out of the hotel, with a minimum of 23 rooms required
perhaps someone here will hear how pulo handled it / guests
GM also makes a difference, even when decision by corporate