Rosewood Hotels and Resorts
Apr 27, 2018, 2:09 pm
#76
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: BNA
Programs: Virtuoso, FSPP, RC STARS, Rosewood Elite, Bellini, SPG LP, Dorchester Diamond, PenClub
Posts: 357
I don't condone resort fees, but the one at the Rosewood Baha Mar is a little different than normal in that it includes transfers and lounge access. I find the included gratuities to be curious. The other items are generally expected to be included with a resort stay.
· Roundtrip private transportation
· Bellmen and housekeeping gratuities
· Access to SENSE Spa and fitness
· Access to arrival and departure lounge at Lynden Pindling Airport
· Complimentary Wi-Fi throughout resort
· Unlimited local calls
· 2 bottles of water replenished daily
· In room coffee and tea service
· Complimentary sunscreen
· Complimentary beach and pool setup and seating with umbrellas
· Access to Casino, all pools on Baha Mar campus and Shops at Baha Mar
· Non-motorized water sports at Baha Mar campus may change by season and typically include:
· Roundtrip private transportation
· Bellmen and housekeeping gratuities
· Access to SENSE Spa and fitness
· Access to arrival and departure lounge at Lynden Pindling Airport
· Complimentary Wi-Fi throughout resort
· Unlimited local calls
· 2 bottles of water replenished daily
· In room coffee and tea service
· Complimentary sunscreen
· Complimentary beach and pool setup and seating with umbrellas
· Access to Casino, all pools on Baha Mar campus and Shops at Baha Mar
· Non-motorized water sports at Baha Mar campus may change by season and typically include:
- Snorkel, Mask & Fins
- Seasonal resort activities and classes may be at an additional charge
- Zayak – Water Facing Kayaks (reef boards)
- Hobie cats Sailboats x 5
- Stand Up Paddle Boards
- Clear Bottom Kayaks
- Single Kayaks Double Kayaks
Apr 27, 2018, 6:46 pm
#77
formerly htang333
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Wi-Fi
Programs: Virtuoso, Top Ranked: Four Seasons (Top 25 Advisor), AMAN (Top 50), Rosewood, Hyatt Prive, etc.
Posts: 1,455
How about beach, views etc?
I notice pretty much all the marketing material shows views facing "left" side of the property, because I have a very sneaky feeling the views "right" of the property aren't as attractive (Patong, Patong Beach and sections of Patong's skyline).
Also, noise level? It's really not at all very far from Patong.
I notice pretty much all the marketing material shows views facing "left" side of the property, because I have a very sneaky feeling the views "right" of the property aren't as attractive (Patong, Patong Beach and sections of Patong's skyline).
Also, noise level? It's really not at all very far from Patong.
Apr 27, 2018, 9:34 pm
#78
formerly known as deathscar
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: Virtuoso | Four Seasons Preferred Partner | Rosewood Elite | Hyatt Prive - and more
Posts: 2,096
There are only a handful of resorts in Phuket/Phuket area with a beach as nice/private as Puri's and they all have 'issues':
- Le Meridien Phuket (all you need to know really...dreadful oversized eyesore of a property that looks like a cruise ship accidentally crashed ashore; but nice and large beach. Reckon it's larger than Pansea, which is of course shared as well, but then you're dealing with Le Merdien's god knows how many rooms)
- Andaman White Resort beach (more boutique property than Le Meridien but definitely nowhere near upscale, nevermind luxe - cute little property though; very small beach, but nice)
- Racha (SLH member etc but the beach is full of day tripper tourists coming in from Phuket during the day as it's public access, so not private at all)
Apr 30, 2018, 5:43 am
#79
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 80
I don't condone resort fees, but the one at the Rosewood Baha Mar is a little different than normal in that it includes transfers and lounge access. I find the included gratuities to be curious. The other items are generally expected to be included with a resort stay.
· Access to arrival and departure lounge at Lynden Pindling Airport
· Access to arrival and departure lounge at Lynden Pindling Airport
the sls resort fee of $60 also includes transportation. so if you are only staying a couple nights it's not a horrible value compared to the hyatt fee of $30 without transportation.
Apr 30, 2018, 6:31 am
#80
formerly htang333
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Wi-Fi
Programs: Virtuoso, Top Ranked: Four Seasons (Top 25 Advisor), AMAN (Top 50), Rosewood, Hyatt Prive, etc.
Posts: 1,455
A random FYI for anyone looking to book Rosewood London....I've had few clients asking me if the "upgrade at time of booking" via Rosewood Elite Benefits applies to booking a Jr. Suite and upgrade into the Deluxe Suite (which can be almost double the price, depending on dates)...Unfortunately, it's not allowed. The upgrade at booking applies to Entry rooms to Jr. Suite then Deluxe Suite to higher Suites...Just not Jr. suite to Deluxe Suite. Of course, upon check in, you might receive a further upgrade but this is strictly speaking of upgrade at booking. Hope that helps anyone who may have the same question.
Apr 30, 2018, 7:32 am
#81
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A random FYI for anyone looking to book Rosewood London....I've had few clients asking me if the "upgrade at time of booking" via Rosewood Elite Benefits applies to booking a Jr. Suite and upgrade into the Deluxe Suite (which can be almost double the price, depending on dates)...Unfortunately, it's not allowed. The upgrade at booking applies to Entry rooms to Jr. Suite then Deluxe Suite to higher Suites...Just not Jr. suite to Deluxe Suite. Of course, upon check in, you might receive a further upgrade but this is strictly speaking of upgrade at booking. Hope that helps anyone who may have the same question.
Apr 30, 2018, 7:39 am
#82
formerly htang333
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Wi-Fi
Programs: Virtuoso, Top Ranked: Four Seasons (Top 25 Advisor), AMAN (Top 50), Rosewood, Hyatt Prive, etc.
Posts: 1,455
Although, was fortunate enough to just pull some strings for the client and get the Jr Suite GBP 798/night to upgrade to the Deluxe Suite at GBP 1,395/night anyway...great value.
My experience is that they do try hard to please!
Apr 30, 2018, 1:23 pm
#83
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: IAD/DCA
Posts: 31,797
example of london rates >
534 31m2 exec room
570 33m2 grand exec room
654 37m2 grand premier room
738 36m2 family
858 44m2 jr
1458 67m2 deluxe
1800 71m2 premier
1938 60m2 dome
2058 80m2 cupola
2250 85m2 grand premier
2430 93m2 pearl
3180 96m2 cupola house
4200 101m2 holborn house
4560 100m2 noble house
____ 118m2 chancery house
____ 173m2 garden house
____ 185m2 manor house
534 31m2 exec room
570 33m2 grand exec room
654 37m2 grand premier room
738 36m2 family
858 44m2 jr
1458 67m2 deluxe
1800 71m2 premier
1938 60m2 dome
2058 80m2 cupola
2250 85m2 grand premier
2430 93m2 pearl
3180 96m2 cupola house
4200 101m2 holborn house
4560 100m2 noble house
____ 118m2 chancery house
____ 173m2 garden house
____ 185m2 manor house
Apr 30, 2018, 1:33 pm
#84
formerly htang333
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Wi-Fi
Programs: Virtuoso, Top Ranked: Four Seasons (Top 25 Advisor), AMAN (Top 50), Rosewood, Hyatt Prive, etc.
Posts: 1,455
example of london rates >
534 31m2 exec room
570 33m2 grand exec room
654 37m2 grand premier room
738 36m2 family
858 44m2 jr
1458 67m2 deluxe
1800 71m2 premier
1938 60m2 dome
2058 80m2 cupola
2250 85m2 grand premier
2430 93m2 pearl
3180 96m2 cupola house
4200 101m2 holborn house
4560 100m2 noble house
____ 118m2 chancery house
____ 173m2 garden house
____ 185m2 manor house
534 31m2 exec room
570 33m2 grand exec room
654 37m2 grand premier room
738 36m2 family
858 44m2 jr
1458 67m2 deluxe
1800 71m2 premier
1938 60m2 dome
2058 80m2 cupola
2250 85m2 grand premier
2430 93m2 pearl
3180 96m2 cupola house
4200 101m2 holborn house
4560 100m2 noble house
____ 118m2 chancery house
____ 173m2 garden house
____ 185m2 manor house
Still pretty good value!
Aug 20, 2018, 12:19 pm
#85
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Palo Alto, CA, USA
Posts: 3,221
Can't wait for this new resort to open in January. It could be a veritable boon to our luxury vacation planning: so close to our home in the SF Bay Area, accessible by air or highway, promises to be exquisite. Only 120 rooms and 37 suites.
https://www.rosewoodhotels.com/en/mi...each-montecito
So, how soon after a new venue opens, does it make sense to book?
https://www.rosewoodhotels.com/en/mi...each-montecito
So, how soon after a new venue opens, does it make sense to book?
Aug 20, 2018, 4:48 pm
#86
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southern California, USA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador and LTT, UA Plat/LT Gold, AA Gold
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Thanks for the newsflash, @KatW! I hadn't heard previously about this one.
I always wait at least 6 months before staying at a new property; I prefer to wait a year if possible. YMMV, of course.
I always wait at least 6 months before staying at a new property; I prefer to wait a year if possible. YMMV, of course.
Aug 20, 2018, 8:49 pm
#88
formerly htang333
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Wi-Fi
Programs: Virtuoso, Top Ranked: Four Seasons (Top 25 Advisor), AMAN (Top 50), Rosewood, Hyatt Prive, etc.
Posts: 1,455
Agree that 6 months to a year is a safe bet but have also heard of fantastic experiences during soft openings (of course there are tons of poor ones as well).
In the best case, a new luxury property might have really capable management on site to open and train. There might be good opening offers to help guests set/align the proper expectations. Not too many guests during opening weeks and staff to guest ratio can help offset some inefficiencies, or hopefully, over deliver on service.
I think getting in touch with the property pre-arrival and exchange a few emails/requests will help gauge the outcome. Not exact science but can't hurt.
In the best case, a new luxury property might have really capable management on site to open and train. There might be good opening offers to help guests set/align the proper expectations. Not too many guests during opening weeks and staff to guest ratio can help offset some inefficiencies, or hopefully, over deliver on service.
I think getting in touch with the property pre-arrival and exchange a few emails/requests will help gauge the outcome. Not exact science but can't hurt.
Aug 20, 2018, 8:57 pm
#89
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I wouldn’t want want to get a reduced rate only to risk broken hardware, faulty air con (gasp!), non-working pools or spas, lighting issues, disappointing food and beverage, along with service issues galore. Not to mention having the inevitable construction or repair crews running around and causing noise issues and other inconveniences.
You could luck out...but I’d rather not luck out. I can afford to be sure to get what I want. I think that’s true for you, too, @KatW!
I already could stay somewhere else and spend less to get less than a 5 star experience. I want to pay for a 5 star experience and concomitantly enjoy a 5 star experience. That’s why I always wait. That’s why I always research carefully to be sure I get what I want. A new luxury hotel is almost never ready after its first few months.
Just recall the Rosewood Hotel de Crillon in its first months as a perfect example—it wasn’t pretty. But it still was pricey.
Aug 20, 2018, 9:59 pm
#90
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Palo Alto, CA, USA
Posts: 3,221
True, bhrubin, I can afford to pay my luxe way ... yet our options are shrinking. Jim no longer is copacetic for long flights and we especially are interested in close-to-home options. I likely will book early and hope for the best.
