scented

I feel your pain. I wonder why the spa manager did not read your profile and advise the team accordingly!

Not only does ESPA source cheap oils, they also add way too many unnecessary and harmful ingredients to push the shelf life of the products. I want pure essential oils and not Ascorbyl Palmitate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Linalool and Phenoxyethanol (!). After my first and last ESPA massage I wanted for nothing more but a scrub and shower after the treatment to get the chemicals off.

I wonder what most chefs would say if the F&B Director decides to favor convenience products from the freezer instead of locally sourced, organic products for the cuisine? Equally I wonder why ESPA is still a thing, despite it being very high-street by now... problem is they are involved too early in the design process of some spas already.

By now it would be easier to list the brands FS Park Lane does not have.

FlyerEC

Please share which London hotels use these or any in UK?

Wonder what The Beaverbrook spa will be using , pity it is not open yet

Kagehitokiri

moved

Aventine

I know Aman Tokyo sources Sodashi products but puts their own house label on it. Does the Connaught do the same thing?

scented

Back in the day the very wise team at Amanresorts decided to commission a line of chemical-free and very high quality skincare with Sodashi in Australia. That's the reason all Aman Spas (including The Connaught and also Tokyo) have Sodashi.

Last year I heard first rumors that Sodashi is out and this was confirmed a bit later. They are now developing their own line of skincare but of course there's a company in charge. What I heard, however, makes me shiver as it simply not of the same standard.

The reason the whole 'new product line' venture is delayed and delayed all over again has to do with the difficulties of importing cosmetics into certain markets and the necessary permits. I also heard they are still changing some details and developing protocols. Apparently they thought it would be a lot easier, but alas.

I am really curious what the new products will be like. I wanted to try them at Zoe this year but Zoe opened for the 2017 season with Sodashi products (which made me really, really happy).

Aventine

I can't imagine how Aman thought creating their own skin care brand would be easier or cheaper than being partners with something proven and tested. I really hope it's not a Korean OEM company or someonr like that behind the new line.

scented

The problem is they want something more 'high-tech'. Or let's call it a more scientific approach. That's why they have chosen a new company they partner with and that's also why they are creating this line of skincare with them. While this can be seen as a big investment in the wellness and spa offerings of the resorts, I fear the formulas will include some usual suspects I don't like.

If you want to know what it will be like, just look who's in charge now at Aman. Their new group director of Spa is Nichola Roche, who is ex ESPA... I am aware she has a background as a naturopath and Ayurveda, but her past employments speak a different language. We'll see!

Aventine

Funny as Aman has never been known as being scientific or high tech. It's not something I come to expect from them. Science and chemistry... *sigh

FlyerEC

Well as I have mentioned before & scented concurs

" Back in the day the very wise team at Amanresorts decided to commission a line of chemical-free and very high quality skincare with Sodashi in Australia. That's the reason all Aman Spas (including The Connaught and also Tokyo) have Sodashi. "

They were wise ..
These days that is not the word of " choice " , perhaps not in vocabulary
Seems like calculating & working toward being soulless - the owner & hanger ons
Very disappointing as some of them know what Aman is & should not destroy uniqueness of being a true leader in the ' industry '

Bad for us , guests

Thankfully , the Indon Amans , source local suppliers for organic products - soaps , etc

Aventine

The rumors of cosmetic companies I've heard Aman executive management wants to partner with are appalling. You can't be a leader using petro chemical garbage. Does Nemu source a local Japanese company or they follow Tokyo?

FlyerEC

Will have to check about Nemu , latest in person when we return in November .
Can ' t recall what they told me in April .

It ' s really been downhill . Have been advised by former Aman spa staff not to buy Aman Spa products in recent years . Keep the bottles , etc as souvenirs now

Aventine

The Andaz Tokyo jasmine oil is an organic one from the UK.

vuittonsofstyle

I heard that Amanrussia were working with ILA on a new Aman spa range, but I also heard they were working with a UK cosmetic's company that makes the Taj products. Aman is keeping very quiet about the new range, possibly because they think that Amanjunkies will be horrified. Kicking out Sodashi was like a restaurant suddenly deciding to ditch Petrus for Rolling Rock beer.

Aventine

Borrowed from uggboy

http://www.breakingtravelnews.com/ne...ondon-at-park/

Just another tacked on spa gimmick...

vuittonsofstyle

In London, as far as I know, Sodashi is in Café Royal, Rosewood London and MO Hyde Park.

Sodashi Oud Oil was created for the Spa at Four Seasons Dubai at Jumeirah, but I think you can get it online. Serenity Oil can be found at any of the Spas mentioned above.