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Old Sep 13, 2017, 4:09 pm
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Whoa. It almost doesn't look an Aman spa selection!
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Old Sep 14, 2017, 6:31 am
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https://tokyo.park.hyatt.com/en/hote...k_Cholley.html

Club On The Park Introduces Cholley

Beginning October 2017, Park Hyatt Tokyo will introduce a new series of facial treatments at Club On The Park spa and fitness facilities, and will launch the CHOLLEY line from Switzerland. This exclusive brand of facial products is highly praised for its immediate results by beauty specialists all around the world.

CHOLLEY is a pioneer in specializing and distributing anti-aging skin care and phyto cosmetic beauty products since 1972. In recent years, CHOLLEY has been a major influence on the cosmetic industry with the development of its’ exclusive IC-RAMP technology. IC-RAMP stands for Inter Cellular, Regenerative, Relay, Resonance, and Amplification and this technology utilizes intercellular communication to stimulate skin regeneration. Human stem cells contain epigenetic factors that are similar to those found in certain rare plants. Phyto stem cells can be used to supply metabolites to human stem cells. This results in improving the health and longevity of the skin. With the combination of biochemistry and cosmetic science and using superior plants and raw materials, IC-RAMP is the leader in stem cell research and development in Switzerland.
The products from the CHOLLEY PHYTOCELL series do not contain paraben, alcohol, artificial color or medicinal liquid. They are enriched with minerals from the water of the glaciers of the Swiss Alps and therefore delivering the very best health, protection, beauty and anti-aging solution for your skin.
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Old Sep 21, 2017, 5:47 am
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Aman Spa Connaught

Oh dear - how the mighty have fallen!

It is almost as if the new Amanregime feels it has to sabotage anything that was brought in by Zecha, even if that means opting for a lower quality.

ILA and Lola's Apothecary?
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Old Sep 21, 2017, 6:06 am
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Originally Posted by vuittonsofstyle
Oh dear - how the mighty have fallen!

It is almost as if the new Amanregime feels it has to sabotage anything that was brought in by Zecha, even if that means opting for a lower quality.

ILA and Lola's Apothecary?
Lola's Apothecary

And while the packaging is pure Instagram bait, these products aren’t just pretty to look at: They’re free of parabens, sulfates, mineral oils, and synthetic fragrance, and the formulas are truly luxurious.
— Allure.com


The name is seemingly un-Aman right from the get go.



On the other hand, glad to say that Ritz Carlton Tokyo spa has Sodashi now. Just wish I had chosen a facial that used Sodashi products! Read more of my review here: Ritz Carlton Tokyo spa review
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Old Sep 21, 2017, 6:15 am
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Interestingly/randomly, I saw Greg Payne (ex Global Spa Director at Aman) in The Connaught earlier this morning. I didn't have a chance to say hello, as it would be interesting to know what he's doing now.
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Old Sep 26, 2017, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by MacMyDay
Interestingly/randomly, I saw Greg Payne (ex Global Spa Director at Aman) in The Connaught earlier this morning. I didn't have a chance to say hello, as it would be interesting to know what he's doing now.
Last time I spoke, he was looking for a job. He is based in Zurich, so it is interesting that you spotted him at The Connaught!
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Old Feb 11, 2018, 9:52 am
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Recommendations for a hotel spa facility

My wife and I are looking for a luxury hotel spa facility to spend a few days. We are not much for treatments, but would rather have a comfortable spa that has hot tubs/cold tubs/steam rooms/sauna, as well as a comfortable quiet area to read and relax. For example, the Bellagio, Aria, and Wynn casinos in Las Vegas have these types of facilities that are accessible for a daily fee; we enjoy spending hours at a time in them moving at our own pace. Smaller examples would be the spa at the Park Hyatt Busan and Park Hyatt Seoul. Again, not interested in treatmentsjust a comfortable facility to rest and spend a few hours per day. We are looking for something like this in Hong Kong, and then have the flexibility to travel to anywhere else in the Southeast and Northeast Asia regions. Any recommendations are welcome, and thanks!
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Old Feb 11, 2018, 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by aabrock2187
My wife and I are looking for a luxury hotel spa facility to spend a few days. We are not much for treatments, but would rather have a comfortable spa that has hot tubs/cold tubs/steam rooms/sauna, as well as a comfortable quiet area to read and relax. For example, the Bellagio, Aria, and Wynn casinos in Las Vegas have these types of facilities that are accessible for a daily fee; we enjoy spending hours at a time in them moving at our own pace. Smaller examples would be the spa at the Park Hyatt Busan and Park Hyatt Seoul. Again, not interested in treatmentsjust a comfortable facility to rest and spend a few hours per day. We are looking for something like this in Hong Kong, and then have the flexibility to travel to anywhere else in the Southeast and Northeast Asia regions. Any recommendations are welcome, and thanks!
My favorite in Hong Kong is The Oriental Spa at the Landmark Mandarin Oriental. Should be the best choice. Four Seasons has great (chemical-free) pools, although I am not sure if they accept non-guests/day spa guests.

Four Seasons Seoul with its Club has the most visionary offering when it comes to facilities... you have to see to believe. You can easily spend days there.

Other than that I'm not of much help, since I prefer treatments over facilities, and most hotels and resorts in SE Asia are about treatments and private facilities. My favorite being The Siam, which is a temple of wellbeing and holistic health treatments.
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Old Feb 11, 2018, 4:03 pm
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A lot of nicer spas try to keep them for hotel guests or members only. Some even charge hotel guests to use certain parts of the facility like Four Seasons Seoul. Their setup is quite good and it does help keep the overflowing hoardes to a manageable number.

The relaxation area at MO Tokyo is very well maintained, cozy and private. It is an amazing place to read, nap, lounge, etc. Their facilities are small but I never get sick of their jacuzzi loungers overlooking Tokyo.

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Thanks scented and Aventine for those suggestions, and it certainly helps that Seoul/Tokyo are two of our favorite cities. I did neglect to mention that I do intend to stay at the hotel as well so not looking to just go to the hotel for spa usage.
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Old Feb 11, 2018, 7:30 pm
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Originally Posted by aabrock2187
Thanks scented and Aventine for those suggestions, and it certainly helps that Seoul/Tokyo are two of our favorite cities. I did neglect to mention that I do intend to stay at the hotel as well so not looking to just go to the hotel for spa usage.
Oh okay. Great because it opens a lot of doors.

I'd recommend Aman Tokyo's spa too. A wonderous facility that is on another level for hotel spas.

Tokyo: Hosinoya might be worth checking out too.
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Old Jun 18, 2018, 11:19 pm
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Amanoi spa review: Spaing on a rainy day

If you have the same bad luck to be here during a rainy spell, then, this is one of the few activities you can do besides Netflix and chilling in your villa. Amanoi's spa is one of Aman's spa and wellness centers that Vlad has really tried to push for specific Aman resorts. Nicolas is also very proud to mention all the mid-to-long term guests they get for these programs. For the well-off, you can also stay in a 2BR spa house with its own treatment rooms and sauna facilities.

The spa is laid out by Lotus Lake and very well constructed and done in that understated Aman style. The spa menu has a lot of alluring treatments and rituals, but, the execution in the semi-arid environs of Vinh Vy needs improvement.

The spa and sauna facilities:

Nice to be able to book it for your own private use. Couples can enjoy the jacuzzi, cold dip pool and just lounge in the sauna facility for an hour or more. Gets very HOT and stuffy so might recommend you ask them to start the air conditioning for a half hour before going in.

Treatment room
New-ish and keeps with their design aesthetic. You probably won't spend much time here to notice much of the details because we were quickly ushered in (for the treatment) and out (after it). The spa bed's facedown pillow feature was surprisingly not so comfortable.







Therapists
After having 2 treatments here and 4 total, it's our conclusion that it's going to be tough for them to train and keep therapists to execute the ambitious programs Aman has in mind. Their English isn't good enough for them to ask you specifics on what you want done or making changes on the fly during the treatment. Our first treatments were done by therapists that obviously didn't want to work and cut corners.

1) They told us that only 2 treatments were available that day because they were "training" for the rituals and couldn't do it then. This was a lie and they were quickly found out the next day.

2) They skipped the foot bath ritual

3) Finished quicker than the usual 90 mins.

That day's treatment were redone the next day with different therapists. The new therapists were probably their better ones since Nicolas wanted to make a better impression than the previous day but they still weren't the greatest. They didn't cut any corners on the 2nd treatment.

Technique
They have a lot of finger and arm strength. They could definitely deliver a strong acupressure style massage but they struggle to do a traditional Swedish one. A lot of their movements come from their core Vietnamese style massage.

Overall
A lot of this spa's premise is based on having excellent, capable spa therapists but the countryside environment probably won't provide the personnel required for Aman's ambitious rituals and programs. Like the resort, it's a place with excellent hardware but the staff still needs improvement.
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Old Aug 1, 2018, 10:58 am
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An amazing Natura Bisse Diamond facial at Rosewood Abu Dhabi. I could tell my South African therapist was trained well by Natura Bisse since I've done countless Diamond facials in different spas. She felt my neck was stiff from the long flight in and did some great massaging for me. Very soft hands with no cuticles. I just loved my treatment there.

Downsides
Front desk person was very abrupt and a little rude. It's 8pm at night but does she have somewhere else to be? I like my receptionists to be a bit cheerful and maybe even welcoming.

The spa facilities are aging and showing wear and tear.
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Great report and interesting observation, Rosewood AUH same owner as FS IIRC.

I prefer FS AUH Spa, mainly due to Christelle being there.
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Great report and interesting observation, Rosewood AUH same owner as FS IIRC.

I prefer FS AUH Spa, mainly due to Christelle being there.
Next time definitely FS!
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