Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Travel&Dining > Luxury Hotels and Travel
Reload this Page >

Signiel Seoul by Lotte. Premier Suite review

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Signiel Seoul by Lotte. Premier Suite review

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 24, 2017, 12:33 pm
  #1  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Four Seasons Contributor BadgeHyatt Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 10,053
Signiel Seoul by Lotte. Premier Suite review

Signiel Seoul

Map| 1 Review | 0% Recommended

Signiel Seoul

South Korea Seoul Sincheon-dong, KR

Signiel Seoul by Lotte. Premier Suite review (16 Photos)

Signiel Seoul

Check In

Screen Shot 2017-05-25 at 2.22.23 AM.png

The Lotteworld Tower is the 5th tallest building in the world and home to Lotte hotel's new luxury brand, Signiel.  Lotte was smart enough to put their hotel on the top parts of the building.

Check in was done down in the lobby.  I just felt like one of the numbers filing in...

Screen Shot 2017-05-25 at 3.07.22 AM.png

Maybe booking through LHW might lead to something more VIP-ish but this was done through their website.  

The lobby shares space with a patisserie.  

Screen Shot 2017-05-25 at 3.07.45 AM.png

Room

There's still a bit of a new hotel smell here.  It wasn't as bad as FS Seoul's opening but sensitive people should let it air out a couple of months.  


It's a lot of muted colors with a heavy, heavy dose of granite overload for tabletops and the bathroom.  Greys, olive greens and beige.  The most colorful thing is the Korean plum blossom mural they put above the bedstand.  A lot of the fixtures remind me of Four Seasons Seoul (probably used the same suppliers).  This is a suite but it still feels really small to me. Think it has to do with the low ceilings found all over the hotel. 

The sofa, desk chair and bedroom chairs were all uncomfortable. Hard pleather and difficult to find a comfortable sitting position.

The bed wasn't typical Asian hotel rock hard. Supportive and actually comfortable.  Sheets were better than your usual hotel whites. 

 

Screen Shot 2017-05-25 at 2.10.44 AM.png

 

 

Screen Shot 2017-05-25 at 2.06.53 AM.png

The views are high enough but you're just looking down on fellow apartments and the Han River.  

Screen Shot 2017-05-25 at 2.21.18 AM.png

Screen Shot 2017-05-25 at 2.08.28 AM.png

I think this is the same kind of panel from the Lotte hotel in Myeongdong.  

Service

Service was terrible all over.  English was non-existent (housekeeping gophers) to average (front desk) at best. Signiel is clearly geared towards the affluent Korean market with many, many Korean speaking attendants around.   It wasn't the server's fault that the hotel oversold breakfasts and everyone wants to get their fair share in.  But, the waitress shouldn't say that Koreans like to eat breakfast for a long time and we just need to wait like everyone else.  We left the hotel and just ate brunch at bill's. 

The hotel should be able to store luggage on the first floor.  We wanted to check out the Lotteworld tower so we left our luggage with the bell staff.  I expected it to be on the ground floor because who wants to travel 79 floors up again for their bags? We had to go back up for our bags and my blood was boiling at this point.

 

Lounge

This Lounge was pathetic.  Signiel wanted to make a lounge for everyone to enjoy but they forgot that this is supposed to be 6* one.  My expectations were something along the lines of FS Seoul's executive lounge.  It became overcrowded with families and kids looking to score a free meal off their room rate.  It's sad when I've been to better airport lounges than this one.

The saran wrap sandwiches say it all...

Screen Shot 2017-05-25 at 2.15.31 AM.pngScreen Shot 2017-05-25 at 3.08.18 AM.png

I actually thought the Salon was really well designed.  People would hog the window tables and seats, especially, at sunset and dinnertime.  

Screen Shot 2017-05-25 at 2.19.03 AM.png

Screen Shot 2017-05-25 at 2.16.53 AM.png

Screen Shot 2017-05-25 at 2.18.33 AM.png

Only two types of wines offered...

 

 

 

Bathroom

I hated the bathroom and hated even going near it.  The use of dark marble and dark wood was depressing to look at for this weekend stay.

The bathtub was very normal for a premier level suite.  I expected a bigger, standalone one at the very least.


They're the only hotel in Korea using dipityque toiletries.  I only knew them as a candle maker so this was a new experience for me.  The linens were plush and soft.  A nice change from hard ones at almost every other luxury hotel in Seoul.

 

Screen Shot 2017-05-25 at 2.12.33 AM.pngScreen Shot 2017-05-25 at 2.05.45 AM.pngScreen Shot 2017-05-25 at 2.46.11 AM.pngScreen Shot 2017-05-25 at 2.14.48 AM.png

Location

Signiel is located at one of the busiest intersections in all of Korea. Frequent traffic jams. It's poorly situated for most business travelers in southeastern Seoul.  If you have business with the Lotte affilates that moved in downstairs then this is the best choice for you.

 

Overall

This Signiel Seoul weekend easily ranks in my bottom 5 worst stays in my life. Overpriced and poorly executed.  No sign of service recovery from management either.  Emails went unanswered and nothing from social media either.  Maybe I'll have to eat crow if this Lotte luxury hotel chain becomes the next MO or Lexus but I don't really see that happening. This is just going to be the highest floor hotel stay in Korea and not much more.  

Signiel Seoul by Lotte. Premier Suite review

Would you like to write a review on the Signiel Seoul?

No, thank you.
Yes
Aventine is offline  
Old May 24, 2017, 12:59 pm
  #2  
Four Seasons Contributor BadgeBanyan Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Programs: We love to Fly, Hotels and Discovery
Posts: 1,471
Thanks Aventine for your review incl. images, sorry to read all this,

I have hoped for this hotel, but maybe this will get better in the future, it's still early in the day.

The suite looks very attractive actually, especially the bed incl. the Korean plum blossom decoration above the headboard.

In which suite type you did actually stay, was this a junior suite or a more "higher up" full suite?

Dipityque, a rare choice/sight even in top luxury hotels. The bathroom makes a good impression in your images, feels inviting, how was the shower in regards of shower pressure and consistency of water temps? This must be more difficult to achieve, especially seeing how high up the hotel is located.

How was the F&B overall incl. breakfast?

Any photos of views over Seoul from your suite...would be interesting to see them, if available.

Again, thank you for you review incl. images, well received, interesting insights/appreciated.

Cheers & Safe Travels. ^

Last edited by uggboy; May 24, 2017 at 1:09 pm Reason: Added Clarity
uggboy is offline  
Old May 24, 2017, 3:22 pm
  #3  
Aman Contributor BadgeBanyan Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 751
But but but... it's 6 stars!
bhrubin likes this.
xracer is offline  
Old May 24, 2017, 4:34 pm
  #4  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Four Seasons 5+ BadgeSPG 5+ Badge
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Germany
Programs: Some
Posts: 11,519
Seems you found your new favorite place in the world The issue at breakfast would have made me furious. Had a nearly similar situation once at the Charles Munich.
offerendum is offline  
Old May 24, 2017, 6:51 pm
  #5  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Four Seasons Contributor BadgeHyatt Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 10,053
Originally Posted by uggboy

Dipityque, a rare choice/sight even in top luxury hotels. The bathroom makes a good impression in your images, feels inviting, how was the shower in regards of shower pressure and consistency of water temps? This must be more difficult to achieve, especially seeing how high up the hotel is located.
No complaints on shower pressure or temperature. I'm usually sensitive to poor pressure and temperature fluctuations so this was a plus.

In which suite type you did actually stay, was this a junior suite or a more "higher up" full suite?
This was a Premier suite - top non-specialty suite and 4th in their nomenclature. Equal to the Executive Palace or City suites at FS Seoul. Costs almost 937 USD a night converted from Korean won. It's on par with FS Seoul weekend rates.

How was the F&B overall incl. breakfast?
We couldn't get into the Yannick Alleno flagship restaurant or his casual dining one and weren't really interested in the Michelin 1* Bicena Korean contemporary restaurant. I don't know how breakfast was considering we never made it past the front door.

Originally Posted by offerendum
The issue at breakfast would have made me furious. Had a nearly similar situation once at the Charles Munich.
They really should have done simple math for their guests vs. breakfast and opened a secondary area. It's not like half of Seoul showed up one Sunday and took them by surprise?

Last edited by Aventine; May 24, 2017 at 7:06 pm
Aventine is offline  
Old May 25, 2017, 3:31 am
  #6  
Four Seasons Contributor BadgeBanyan Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Programs: We love to Fly, Hotels and Discovery
Posts: 1,471
Thanks Aventine for your further insights to your already informative review/images.

Cheers & Safe Travels. ^
uggboy is offline  
Old Sep 17, 2017, 11:14 pm
  #7  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Four Seasons Contributor BadgeHyatt Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 10,053
Signiel Seoul, in their infinite wisdom, has decided to squeeze their Korean lemons even harder by raising the rack rate to 600,000 KRW/night. This to compensate for the missing Chinese luxury tour groups that would have been spending tons of money at the Lotte DF in the Lotteworld Tower.
Aventine is offline  
Old Sep 19, 2017, 12:48 pm
  #8  
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: London
Posts: 132
Nearly went to Seoul this Christmas and having had a great stay at the Lotte in Hanoi last Christmas might well have booked this hotel. Near miss my by the looks although sorry Aventine had to find out for us all.
flapland is offline  
Old Sep 19, 2017, 5:33 pm
  #9  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Four Seasons Contributor BadgeHyatt Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 10,053
Originally Posted by flapland
Nearly went to Seoul this Christmas and having had a great stay at the Lotte in Hanoi last Christmas might well have booked this hotel. Near miss my by the looks although sorry Aventine had to find out for us all.
Someone had to take the plunge
A Western chain like Conrad, Park Hyatt or Four Seasons would do a better Christmas in terms of display, amenities for kids, spreads, etc.
Aventine is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.