Great Stay at Amanera

Old Jun 23, 18, 11:26 am
  #76  
Marriott 25+ BadgeAman Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southern California, USA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador and LTT, UA Plat/LT Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 8,526
Iím curious: whatís the occupancy like for these most recent stays described herein? I get the idea that itís less than 50%...with so many people describing unoccupied villas adjacent to theirs.
bhrubin is online now  
Old Jun 23, 18, 12:22 pm
  #77  
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 57
Originally Posted by bhrubin View Post
Iím curious: whatís the occupancy like for these most recent stays described herein? I get the idea that itís less than 50%...with so many people describing unoccupied villas adjacent to theirs.
When we checked in on Wednesday they told us 40%, it has picked up a little since Friday (noticed a few groups Iíve not seen) so I guess 5-60% now?
Fc912 is offline  
Old Jun 23, 18, 12:32 pm
  #78  
Aman Contributor BadgeMarriott 25+ Badge
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southern California, USA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador and LTT, UA Plat/LT Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 8,526
Originally Posted by Fc912 View Post
When we checked in on Wednesday they told us 40%, it has picked up a little since Friday (noticed a few groups I’ve not seen) so I guess 5-60% now?
Originally Posted by Fc912 View Post
I agree with everything that has been said recently; this is a great property and probably the most “Aman”-like out of the four North American (including Caribbean) properties.
I'm beginning to think that "most Aman-like" almost requires the property to be at lower occupancy. I've repeatedly insisted that the reason why some of the most celebrated Asian Amans have such great records of sterling service is actually because they were always at 30-50% occupancy--including all of our stays in Asia over the past 10 years. It's a lot easier to deliver personalized service when your property is at half occupancy.

I'd argue that Amangiri, with some of the highest, if not the highest, average occupancy of any Aman property in the world, is more Aman than even the Asian counterparts. Our stay at Amangiri was at 100% occupancy--and we still loved it. I think that's why we place Amangiri higher in our estimation than so many others. Reviews may be suffering from false equivalency.

I suspect many of these "more Aman-like" properties operating at well less than full occupancy wouldn't be nearly "as Aman-like" when they are closer to 100% occupancy.

OTOH, I’m delighted to know that when Amanera is at lower occupancy—as would be expected now during hot and muggy hurricane season—the service and experience is to such a wonderful standard.

Last edited by bhrubin; Jun 23, 18 at 12:53 pm
bhrubin is online now  
Old Jun 23, 18, 6:05 pm
  #79  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: IAD/DCA
Posts: 31,510
4 great detailed reports posted quickly, thanks all !

26 bedroom nera is 6th smallest aman, until residences

of 24 casitas, 12 no pool (only wella, ruya, zoe are all pool)
1536 / 2112 / 2240 / 2752 entry (xmas is $782 less vs yara)
2304 / 2688 / 2816 / 3264 entry pool
incl fees ; before 5th (incl 2019) / 4th free (dec 19 2018)
virtuoso and FHR 4th free exclude jul 2-4 and nov 22-24
season of discovery 5th free exclude nov 21-25 and apr 18-21
holiday rates actually good value vs how high elsewhere in area
first 2019 low is may 17 > jun 30 excluding may 23-26
low might include sep 1-15 and oct (previously published 2018)

some parents here prefer no pool vs 'child-proofed' pool

Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Jun 25, 18 at 11:42 am
Kagehitokiri is offline  
Old Jun 23, 18, 11:18 pm
  #80  
formerly known as deathscar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: Virtuoso | SPG | Hyatt Prive
Posts: 1,796
Originally Posted by bhrubin View Post




I'm beginning to think that "most Aman-like" almost requires the property to be at lower occupancy. I've repeatedly insisted that the reason why some of the most celebrated Asian Amans have such great records of sterling service is actually because they were always at 30-50% occupancy--including all of our stays in Asia over the past 10 years. It's a lot easier to deliver personalized service when your property is at half occupancy.

I'd argue that Amangiri, with some of the highest, if not the highest, average occupancy of any Aman property in the world, is more Aman than even the Asian counterparts. Our stay at Amangiri was at 100% occupancy--and we still loved it. I think that's why we place Amangiri higher in our estimation than so many others. Reviews may be suffering from false equivalency.

I suspect many of these "more Aman-like" properties operating at well less than full occupancy wouldn't be nearly "as Aman-like" when they are closer to 100% occupancy.

OTOH, I’m delighted to know that when Amanera is at lower occupancy—as would be expected now during hot and muggy hurricane season—the service and experience is to such a wonderful standard.
Haven't been to Amangiri, and while I do agree it is tough for Amangiri as it is one of the Amans operating at the highest level of occupancy, but I think the reviews from here tell you all you need to know - I think your stay was the exception rather than the rule, low occupancy or not. The place is absolutely stunning, and there is the "American vs Asian" service standard to account for, in addition to the expectation (Aman, Asia) that most come in with. Even with that in mind, it does point to your stay being an exceptional case.

Aman Asia WAS often at low occupancy, but Amankila, Amanpulo et al have also consistently (not always - no hotel is perfect all the time, 100% of the time after all, but fairly consistently) delivered time and again, even at full or close to full occupancy. Amanpulo is actually close to full occupancy on most dates between Christmas to Easter, followed again by any long weekend in Hong Kong + first week of October. The only time it runs on very low occupancy is the period in between that, when weather may also not be as nice. When we were at Amanpulo, it was at full occupancy for all the casitas except treetop pool and some of the villas were unoccupied. Amanjiwo was also at close to full occupancy during our stay there. Amanoi was also running at a very good occupancy during our stay. They can deliver, even during high occupancy

Now that Amanusa has closed (and with the more attractive Undiscovered Indonesia rates at USD 550/night++ for low season), Amankila also runs at much higher occupancy than before. Amanjiwo is actually one of the best Indonesian/Southeast Asian Amans performing Amans for occupancy.

Amanpuri is perhaps the exception here but that's partly due to its absolutely enormous size. It went way out of hand when they built the extra villas back in around 2011.
chinmoylad is offline  
Old Feb 22, 19, 8:49 am
  #81  
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: New York
Programs: SPG Platinum, AA 2.0 MM, DL Plat, Hertz Plat, LY Gold
Posts: 1,597
Do the regular rates here not include breakfast? Looking at a booking for next week and it does not show anything included besides the room.
damaxer91 is offline  
Old Feb 22, 19, 10:38 am
  #82  
Aman 10+ BadgeMandarin Oriental Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Enroute to ? & likely flying in ' A ':)
Programs: TPPS, UA, EK ...; Marriott BONVOY , HH, GP, GC..
Posts: 2,723
Originally Posted by damaxer91 View Post
Do the regular rates here not include breakfast? Looking at a booking for next week and it does not show anything included besides the room.
Our stays have always included breakfast but which Amans are you looking at ? We are at Galla now and if you wish , can check for you .
Do not book through AMAN ( or their ) website ! Email the specific property , preferably the GM , EAM or HM .
FlyerEC is online now  
Old Feb 22, 19, 10:54 am
  #83  
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: New York
Programs: SPG Platinum, AA 2.0 MM, DL Plat, Hertz Plat, LY Gold
Posts: 1,597
Originally Posted by FlyerEC View Post


Our stays have always included breakfast but which Amans are you looking at ? We are at Galla now and if you wish , can check for you .
Do not book through AMAN ( or their ) website ! Email the specific property , preferably the GM , EAM or HM .

Amanera

Was just looking at the options. Will ask the property.
damaxer91 is offline  
Old Feb 22, 19, 11:01 am
  #84  
Original Poster
Aman Contributor BadgeFour Seasons Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Baltimore MD
Posts: 3,372
Originally Posted by damaxer91 View Post
Amanera

Was just looking at the options. Will ask the property.
or book through a virtuoso agent... that'll get you breakfast...

FDW
offerendum likes this.
FlyingDoctorwu is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread