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Old Feb 14, 2017, 7:19 pm
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Formerly Managed Aman Hotels

reading bhrubin's review got me thinking- does anyone have a list of formerly managed Aman hotels? I can think of a couple
- Aman New Delhi now Lodhi
- Hacienda de San Antonio (did it have an Aman name? or was it a Maha hotels (I see some obscure references to the name Mahakua...- A different Zecha project?)
- Umaid Bhawan Palace (very brief)...

Would love to hear more about the history of these hotels.... plus if there are any others out there... and any guesses about the next one to leave the fold?

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Old Feb 14, 2017, 8:28 pm
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The strand in Myanmar.
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Carcosa Seri Negara in Kuala Lumpur.
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Milton Park in Australia.

Hotel Bora Bora in French Polynesia.
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Old Feb 15, 2017, 5:09 am
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The only one left out would be Burnham Beeches near Melbourne , Australia .

Just remembered, even though wasn't an Aman I think LAS ALAMANDAS in Mexico was under Maharesorts or GHM for a brief time ... need a fact check .

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Originally Posted by GK1998
They had many owners/ managements
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Originally Posted by DSI
The strand in Myanmar.
Think that was a GHM wasn't it? Not strictly Aman.

If we're to make a thread about former GHM hotels it would be tons of pages long

On the other hand, had no idea about some of these being formerly Aman!
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Old Feb 16, 2017, 9:18 am
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chinmoylad, yes it was aman
lots of discussion in aman threads
i'll do new compilation at some point

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post25953141
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...sed-amans.html
first aman in delhi was Manor >
lucire.com/2008/0703vo0.shtml

nera was sold, zoe will be sold - hope they dont change

re mexico >
Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
some GHM history
1999 / 2000 mexico (1 year?) (same owner Grupo Plan) >
Careyes; Tamarindo; Hacienda Temozon, Santa Rosa, San Jose

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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...sed-amans.html
first aman in delhi was Manor >
lucire.com/2008/0703vo0.shtml


re mexico >
Manor Delhi wasn't technically an Aman, more a recommended place to stay before going to the various amans in India , would you say ?
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Originally Posted by GK1998
This is a surprise. I hadn't heard that it was ever Aman. I've always thought of it as either independent or R&C.
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
This is a surprise. I hadn't heard that it was ever Aman. I've always thought of it as either independent or R&C.
(R&C is not a management company, most R&C are independent)

Originally Posted by bearbrick
Just remembered, even though wasn't an Aman I think LAS ALAMANDAS in Mexico was under Maharesorts or GHM for a brief time ... need a fact check .
owners related to Hacienda (maha/aman) and Cuixmala (proposed aman/maha)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...t-current.html

india >
Originally Posted by Jonathan Blitz
I was appointed Manager of The Manor Hotel in addition to my position of Manager of Aman‐i‐Khas
another Manor GM came amanusa

not sure re branding etc, they planned lodhi project a while

economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/65028.cms
webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:e_wef7gb2yIJ:economictimes.indiatim es.com/articleshow/65028.cms

Amanresorts investing an as-yet-undecided amount to refurbish the 98-room hotel. It will be relaunched as an all-suite luxury hotel called aœAman at Umaid Bhavan Palacea , marking its first major presence in India. Discussions are on about the quantum of investment and inputs are awaited from an Amanresorts team currently in Jodhpur to assess the requirements for the refurbishment.

We want to promote Jodhpur as a destination as well as Umaid Bhavan Palacea™s unique status as both a grand Art Deco Palace and a functioning family home,a said Mr Shivraj Singh, son of Mr Gaj Singh and executive director of Marudhar Hotels. aœSo we are particularly glad that Amanresorts has roped in Mr Ed Tuttle, an acclaimed specialist in stone architecture to be part of the refurbishment project.

Amanresorts also has a management contract with The Manor, a boutique hotel in Delhi as well as a tented camp in Ranthambor in Rajasthan.
owners of aman (prior to DLF) decided not to invest

Originally Posted by GUWonder
He probably didn't have the money for it or see the money in doing so, even if the styles were to be in alignment. I expect more of this property to eventually end up being used as a hotel or L/FBE purposes.
similar - aman leased venice (remains a residence) and sveti stefan, those leases were taken over by someone else, then transferred to current owner of both amans, along with other property aman/etc acquired including in rural new york

vs others, lodhi did not really leave aman or cancel aman contract etc. (or have colony/aman cancel) DLF was involved in developing it. part of why DLF acquired aman was the land (of lodhi) which aman had acquired. DLF has already used part of the property as apartments. when DLF sold aman, they retained ownership of lodhi. DLF is a property developer, so they have long term considerations/plans/options, and see value there, rather than as hotel.

seems aman very briefly managed hana maui >

Consultant Chef Aman Resorts
Hotel Hana Maui Hawaii
July 1996 - August 1996 (2 months)
Training & motivating kitchen staff advising senior management on kitchen operations
Reporting directly to General Manager, Monty Brown (Aman Resorts)
Amanresorts Hawaii Inc., a luxury resort management group, received approval for the new management agreement from the Maui Liquor Control Commission on Wednesday. Amanresorts is scheduled to take over operations of the hotel and ranch from Sheraton in July.
funny, i would have stayed if i had known

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Originally Posted by chinmoylad
Think that was a GHM wasn't it? Not strictly Aman.

If we're to make a thread about former GHM hotels it would be tons of pages long

On the other hand, had no idea about some of these being formerly Aman!
Correct. Having just stayed there, I did a bit of research on the Strand [I started thinking: 'GHM makes sense here, but there's NO Aman footprint whatsoever'

On a slight side-note: The Strand Yangon is incredible!
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Correct. Having just stayed there, I did a bit of research on the Strand [I started thinking: 'GHM makes sense here, but there's NO Aman footprint whatsoever'

On a slight side-note: The Strand Yangon is incredible!
strand was aman. many official quotes and several first hand stays posted. was on aman website with aman's other historical properties that are no longer aman, and were dropped when colony controlled aman.

Originally Posted by Amanresorts
Completely renovated in the early 1990s, The Strand reopened in January 1994 as an Amanresort.
john reed began aman career there - F&B manager then GM
(by the time Sally Baughan arrived, may have become GHM)

bagnols >

Originally Posted by Pausanias
utterly fabulous Chateau de Bagnols which Amanresorts managed in its first years of operation. That still might be the best hotel I've ever been to.
i feel like that was the second time someone posted something along those lines.

Originally Posted by Pausanias
My French list would be:
Chateau de Bagnols near Lyons
L'Oustau de Baumaniere in Provence
Auberge de l'Ill & Hotel des Berges in Alsace
These are the three most beautiful hotels/restaurants I have ever been to, with food to match the surroundings which is unusual
Originally Posted by vuittonsofstyle
Oh no, I promise you that when Aman managed Château de Bagnols it was superb! Wonderful service.
aman/maha and grays >
Originally Posted by zigzag
Hacienda de San Antonio was perfect with the Grays in charge
oct 2000 > jan 2001 mahakua
feb 2001 > sep 2005 aman

india >

india timing (including opening but not ending of manor)
feb 2002 - acquired lodhi, seems like JV (with DLF affiliate?)
nov 1 2003 - opened amanikhas and umaid bhawan
ikhas included 1 night at manor with driver through may 2004

lodhi change's timing was in line with 1st attempted sale of aman
they'd started using 'lodhi suites' as apartments/etc 1 year prior
the change ended up only 1 year before sale of aman did close

bora bora >

think aman still owns it ? i'd think they could do residences ?

the 2 australian aman (plus Beaufort) >

hmaa.com.au/Media/KeyNewsUpdates/ByronatByronResortandSpa/tabid/3093/Default.aspx

Originally Posted by John Parche
Adrian purchased the Beaufort Hotel group where Hotels in Darwin, Brisbane, Singapore, Bangkok and Neuchatel (Switzerland) were either operational or under construction. I found myself operating the Darwin, Brisbane and Bangkok properties over an 8 year period. Whilst at Beaufort, Adrian purchased two iconic country properties; Milton Park in Bowral and Burnham Beeches in the Dandenongs. I left Beaufort in 1994 to re-join Aman and had a very difficult task of resurrecting these properties and suggested that after 3 years, instead of “Amanizing” them, he should sell
mice.net.au/article/interview-with-a-gm/

Originally Posted by John Parche
In January 1987, Lyn and I joined Adrian as the first Aman employees.

Beaufort Hotel in Darwin, Adrian purchased the hotel after the Malaysian owners went into receivership. My career path suddenly changed and I ended up being GM of the 195-room hotel. Four years later, I transferred to Brisbane to operate The Heritage, then to The Sukhothai in Bangkok, before returning to Australia to rejoin Aman Resorts
blaise montandon - beaufort sentosa 1992-1999 before aman 2007-2014

Originally Posted by WSJ
Under Colony, Amanresorts also sold a resort in Australia and gave up management contracts of hotels in Kuala Lumpur, Yangon, and Bagnols.
Originally Posted by bearbrick
carcosa seri negara and the strand - [ which became a ghm....during the "colony' period
while bagnols just dropped, milton park dropped/sold in 1998
bagnols and 2 GHM werent brought back to aman post-colony

Originally Posted by bearbrick
Burnham Beeches near Melbourne
ah, aman owned and managed 1988-1992
selecthotels.com/LiteratureRetrieve.aspx?ID=31321
newspapers.com/newspage/123793634/
newspapers.com/newspage/120101941/
au.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-a-knowles-45415141

(ex aman Tracy Atherton GM at new 46 room Jackalope hotel outside Melbourne)

anyone else wish they discovered luxury travel and aman earlier?
i was in hawaii during the ~2 months aman managed hana maui
also visted near bagnols in the 90s, and mexico in early 2000s
umaid announcing 1 year contract likely would've prompted me

Aman: The First Decade - first aman book ?

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Old Feb 19, 2017, 11:30 am
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Thanks for all the info. Some good stuff here.. just spent a little time playing with archive.org. I'm sure Khag has some of this stuff posted somewhere...

Chateau de Bagnols

On the Aman website in 1999, gone in 2000....

Mahakua Haceinda de San Antonio

Shows up on the website in 2001, left Aman resorts March 11, 2005

In Fall of 2003, they advertised

In Jodhpur, a number of rooms are also available for an 'Aman experience' this winter season at Umaid Bhawan Palace.
That verbiage was gone by March of 2004....


Apparently Amankora's previous name was Amanrila

Hotel Bora Bora looks like it closed somewhere at the end of 2008... o

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