New Aman, Azerai, GHM & Ahn Luh Resorts - 2017 edition
Oct 27, 2017, 8:36 am
#196
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I suspect his 'opinion' and preference to see the real New York is a bit influenced by his deal, which secured the lower floors for the hotel. If the hotel was located in 432 Park Ave we would read something very different from him.
Hope to see some more renderings soon.
Oct 27, 2017, 9:12 am
#197
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I think this Aman build needs a sense of place. They can't redo Tokyo in New York.
Oct 27, 2017, 10:44 am
#198
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I couldn't be more disappointed by this NYC Aman. This feels so un-special and typical luxury and anti-everything that I used to love about the brand. What a cool opportunity they could have had to do something off beat and truly luxury in an interesting location in NYC. Imagine an Aman on Governor's Island where they'd convert some of those abandoned buildings with amazing views. Private yachts taxing you to your destinations. Sunrise breakfasts on Ellis Island or Liberty Island. Or somewhere with character in Brooklyn or an Old Estate in Riverdale. This is just so Four Seasons. 5th Ave is just so boring.
Oct 27, 2017, 10:49 am
#199
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I couldn't be more disappointed by this NYC Aman. This feels so un-special and typical luxury and anti-everything that I used to love about the brand. What a cool opportunity they could have had to do something off beat and truly luxury in an interesting location in NYC. Imagine an Aman on Governor's Island where they'd convert some of those abandoned buildings with amazing views. Private yachts taxing you to your destinations. Sunrise breakfasts on Ellis Island or Liberty Island. Or somewhere with character in Brooklyn or an Old Estate in Riverdale. This is just so Four Seasons. 5th Ave is just so boring.
PS I know I may be wrong😉
Oct 27, 2017, 3:26 pm
#200
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previous coverage >
doronin signed a deal in apr 2015
aman hotel discussed by may 2016 >
NYC hotel floors >
7 floors greenwich
4-9? aman
11 floors crosby st
3-12+ mark, RC battery park
2-15+ plaza athenee
16 floors whitby
17 floors surrey, baccarat, lowell, others
5-19+ plaza
4-20 peninsula, 20 floors st regis
3-22 RC CP
8-23 PH
7-24 FS downtown
3-33 carlyle
4-39 pierre
5-49+ FS
39-54 MO
The seventh floor will host a pool, spa, “treatment rooms,” and lockers, and the eighth floor will have a gym. There will be a restaurant on the ninth floor
aman hotel discussed by may 2016 >
NYC hotel floors >
7 floors greenwich
4-9? aman
11 floors crosby st
3-12+ mark, RC battery park
2-15+ plaza athenee
16 floors whitby
17 floors surrey, baccarat, lowell, others
5-19+ plaza
4-20 peninsula, 20 floors st regis
3-22 RC CP
8-23 PH
7-24 FS downtown
3-33 carlyle
4-39 pierre
5-49+ FS
39-54 MO
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Oct 27, 2017 at 4:41 pm
Oct 28, 2017, 1:27 am
#201
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Was thinking - there are some gorgeous spots in Hong Kong they could build stunning resorts on, but same issue - it would only be open half the year (and while that can work in a rural setting where costs are low such as Ranthambore, it won't fly in Hong Kong or most other major cities), and even then you wouldn't get 100% occupancy, even with the 'staycationers'.
Oct 28, 2017, 6:27 am
#202
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I couldn't be more disappointed by this NYC Aman. This feels so un-special and typical luxury and anti-everything that I used to love about the brand. What a cool opportunity they could have had to do something off beat and truly luxury in an interesting location in NYC. Imagine an Aman on Governor's Island where they'd convert some of those abandoned buildings with amazing views. Private yachts taxing you to your destinations. Sunrise breakfasts on Ellis Island or Liberty Island. Or somewhere with character in Brooklyn or an Old Estate in Riverdale. This is just so Four Seasons. 5th Ave is just so boring.
Nov 3, 2017, 1:04 am
#204
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Amankea out
Developers Dolphin Capital passed the Amankea project over to One&Only. They announced it in December with a very, very cheesy video in nouveau-riche-bad-taste-style on their website: https://www.oneandonlyresorts.com/on...-island-greece
Neither in the video with it's lousy champagne-sipping-and-some-ocean-waves-content, nor in their press release are any signs that either the originally designated architect John Heah or any other visonairy architect is in charge, so innovative design seems to be sadly out of focus: https://www.oneandonlyresorts.com/on...-november-2017
Neither in the video with it's lousy champagne-sipping-and-some-ocean-waves-content, nor in their press release are any signs that either the originally designated architect John Heah or any other visonairy architect is in charge, so innovative design seems to be sadly out of focus: https://www.oneandonlyresorts.com/on...-november-2017
Last edited by deer; Nov 4, 2017 at 1:04 am
Nov 3, 2017, 8:04 pm
#205
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Developers Dolphin Capital passed the Amankea project over to One&Only. They announced it in December with a very, very cheesy video in nouveau-riche-bad-taste-style on their website: https://www.oneandonlyresorts.com/on...-island-greece
Neither in the video with it's lousy champagne-sipping-and-some-ocean-waves-content, nor in their press release are any signs that either the originally designated architect John Heah is still in charge or any other visonaire is in charge, so innovative design seems to be sadly out of focus: https://www.oneandonlyresorts.com/on...-november-2017
Neither in the video with it's lousy champagne-sipping-and-some-ocean-waves-content, nor in their press release are any signs that either the originally designated architect John Heah is still in charge or any other visonaire is in charge, so innovative design seems to be sadly out of focus: https://www.oneandonlyresorts.com/on...-november-2017
Nov 6, 2017, 6:46 am
#207
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Developers Dolphin Capital passed the Amankea project over to One&Only. They announced it in December with a very, very cheesy video in nouveau-riche-bad-taste-style on their website: https://www.oneandonlyresorts.com/on...-island-greece
Neither in the video with it's lousy champagne-sipping-and-some-ocean-waves-content, nor in their press release are any signs that either the originally designated architect John Heah or any other visonairy architect is in charge, so innovative design seems to be sadly out of focus: https://www.oneandonlyresorts.com/on...-november-2017
Neither in the video with it's lousy champagne-sipping-and-some-ocean-waves-content, nor in their press release are any signs that either the originally designated architect John Heah or any other visonairy architect is in charge, so innovative design seems to be sadly out of focus: https://www.oneandonlyresorts.com/on...-november-2017
Nov 6, 2017, 8:26 am
#208
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years ago dolphin said they were not going to do (aman)kea because they were selling equity, i quoted here. heah kept ~25% stake. until dolphin sells, which they will, they could have controlling stake with heah.
first deal didnt close >
2014 annual report >
O&O / kerzner (dubai) presumably >
sep 30 2016 >
advancing discussions
annual report 2016 >
Discussions progressing
international resort operator and investor
sep 29 2017 >
continued to make progress
investor group will also undertake management and branding
sorry i didnt quote more to update/remind
anything re aman kyoto?
first deal didnt close >
In discussions regarding €18 million of equity investment from a third party joint venture partner to complete project with another luxury operator ... Existing management agreement is with Aman Resorts. DCI is currently in discussions with a joint venture partner, and operator might change, subject to reaching a formal agreement
advancing discussions
annual report 2016 >
Discussions progressing
international resort operator and investor
sep 29 2017 >
continued to make progress
investor group will also undertake management and branding
sorry i didnt quote more to update/remind
anything re aman kyoto?
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Nov 6, 2017 at 10:01 am
Nov 6, 2017, 7:12 pm
#209
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Banyan Tree Macau, however, is a 5*, as is Four Seasons Jimbaran Bay.
The Upper House is also a 4* property.
Nov 7, 2017, 4:28 am
#210
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While I find Oyster “pearl” levels to not be perfect, their very thorough pictures (which TA now uses as well) are incredibly helpful when looking at a new place to stay!