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Old Jan 1, 17, 12:11 pm
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Amanresorts Thread 2017

Amanresorts thread begun by http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/amanjunkie.html
upcoming - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...7-edition.html

amanresorts trip report threads in this forum >
(66 reports include multiple hotels [64% of 103 reports])

Ericka
TRIP REPORT: Hotel Grande Bretagne & Amanzoe (Greece)
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...giri-utah.html
Trip Report: Four Seasons Sultanahmet & Amanruya (Turkey)
A Very Special Trip Report: Peninsula Hong Kong, Peninsula Manila & Amanpulo
Trip Report: Dar Ahlam & Amanjena (Morocco)
Turks & Caicos Trip Report: Grace Bay Club & Amanyara
Trip Report: St. Regis SIN, Amandari, Amanwana, Amanusa
India Trip Report – Imperial, Aman-i-Khas, Amanbagh, Oberoi Amarvilas
Trip Report: Amansara (Cambodia) & Both Four Seasons Maldives
Singapore (RC) & Java (Amanjiwo) Trip Report
Amangani Trip Report - Jackson Hole, WY
Amanpulo, Singapore Airlines, Manila Pen and Shangri-La Trip Report
Singapore/Bali Trip Report - Amankila, Four Seasons, Ritz Carlton, Etc.

Musken
Trip report India: Amanbagh, Aman i Khas and Rambagh Palace
Trip report Shanghai (Peninsula), Hangzhou (Amanfayun) and Hong Kong (FS)
Road trip California, SW US and LV incl. FS SF, MO LV, Amangiri, Bel Air, Shutters +
Trip report Vietnam: 4 nights Park Hyatt Saigon, 9 nights Amanoi
Trip Report - Amantaka (Laos) and Amansara (Cambodia)
AMANKILA and AMANUSA – impressions March 2013
Trip report: Four Seasons Bosphorus, Instanbul and Amanruya
Trip report Philippines: One night Peninsula Manila and 12 nights Amanpulo
Trip report: Amanpuri and Trisara, Phuket, Thalland
Trip report FS Singapore, Amandari and FS Jimbaran

deathscar
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...g-vietnam.html
Amansara + Belmond La Residence D'Angkor + Siem Reap Site Visits
Trip review: Aman-i-Khas, Amanbagh, The Lodhi - Ranthambore, Ajabargh and Delhi
Short Stay: Six Senses Yao Noi near Phuket, Thailand + Site Visit to Amanpuri
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...ilippines.html
Short stay: Amankila, Bali, Indonesia
Short trip report: Amandari + Amanusa, + site visit to Alila Villas Soori
Trip report: Amanfayun (March 2014)

Londonjetsetter
Trip report - India and Sri Lanka
Trip report - Oberoi, Aman and Taj hotels in India
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...ti-stefan.html
Trip Report: Amankila, Four Seasons Sayan and Amanusa
Trip Report: Amankila

Fliar
3 *very* different Amans in 3 weeks: Wana, Gani and Zoe (plus Dunton Hot Springs)
Amanyangyun (Shanghai, China): first impressions
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...pressions.html
Aman at Summer Palace Beijing – and several other hotels

FlyingDoctorwu
Amansara and Amanoi, February 2018
Great Stay at Amanera
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...ng-2015-a.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...nd-2014-a.html

SwissBelgiantravelers
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...-may-14-a.html
South-East Asian Delights Part III, Amanusa
South-East Asian delights, Part II; Amankila tripreport
South-East Asian delights; St. Regis Singapore & Amanjiwo

callmedtop
Trip Report - Amanfayun (December 2017)
Trip Report: Waldorf-Astoria Amsterdam & Aman Sveti Stefan
Review: Upper House, Amanoi, and Amantaka

xracer
Six Senses Con Dao (with comparisons to Amano’i), Vietnam
Trip Report: Raffles Dubai, Park Hyatt Dubai, Banyan Tree Al Wadi, Amanzoe
Amanruya Visit

halibahs
Trip report: Aman India Journey and Oberoi Amarvilas
Amantaka trip report
Amandari trip report

Groombridge
TRIP REPORT: Amantaka, Amansara, and Amanpuri
TRIP REPORT: Aman, Oberoi, and Taj resorts in India
TRIP REPORT: The 5 Indonesian Aman Resorts (Bali & Beyond)

theLuxuryTravelExpert
Review of AMANZOE, most AMAZING resort in Greece (+ video)
Review: Aman Tokyo & Amanemu (+ video clip)

chelsea2
Amanzoe - 4 days in May 2017
Trip Report: Mandarin Oriental Bangkok, Druk Air, Amankora Journey & The Siam

5khours
Aman Tokyo - Trip Report
Amanoi (Vietnam) - Trip Report

aa213bb
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...ip-report.html
Sri Lanka Trip Report: Tea Trails, Amanwella, Amangalla

cjthekid
Aman India Journey + Oberoi Udaivilas, Amarvilas and Taj Umaid Bhawan Palace
Aman Bali and Beyond Honeymoon Trip Report

blueline7
Amanpulo Trip Report
Thanks Luxury Hotel Forum! Amandari, Amankila, and Al Maha Trip Report (what makes aman)

DavidO
The Luxury Hotels of China
Hong Kong and Bali site inspection trip (what makes aman)

jkirk
Aman New Delhi and Aman-i-Khas trip report
Aman-i-Khas, Amanagh, Oberoi Delhi and Amarvilas report

zigzag
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...ws-please.html
Amanjiwo 10th Anniversary Party

vienna-resident - Japan TR: Aman Tokyo - Amanemu - St. Regis Osaka
eamus - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...ne-2017-a.html
Cityflyer10 - Amankila - Great First Foray into Aman
FlyerEC https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...rt-review.html
bhrubin - A wonderful stay at Amanbagh--and an extraordinary excursion to Pratapgarh Fort
Big_Foot - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...-amanjiwo.html
epitopeX - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...rea-japan.html
IB6825 - trip report Majestic Barrière Cannes & Aman Sveti Stefan
TheBrownPrince - Amandayan mini-review (Lijang, China)
LM225 - Bali Trip Report: Chedi Club Ubud and Amankila
SeamasterLux - TR Sofitel Siem Reap and Nakamanda Krabi (aman sveti stefan)
ACfly - Aman Canal Grande Venice
indianenglish - Amanyara trip report July 2013 : Turks & Caicos
KI-NRT - Trip Report: Amantaka (Laos)
NYflyer1 - Amanpulo Trip Report
damaxer91 - Trip Report: Raffles Hotel Singapore, Amanjiwo & Amankila
Larkin - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...ip-report.html
ridefar - India Trip Report: Aman New Delhi, Oberoi Amarvillas, Amanbagh, Aman i Khas
kurl - Trip Report: Amanpuri, Trisara, Amanpulo
latinrusso - Rajastan: Amarvilas, Rajvilas, Amanbagh, Aman-i-Khas, Udaivilas
rjhunjhu - Trip report - Bali, Moyo Island
lilnemo - Thank you, thank you, thank you (Amanjena)
HKboy - Trip report: Amankila and Amanjiwo
ClefsDor - Amanusa Trip Report
plumbar - Aman Resorts vs. Bulgari Bali (what makes aman)
opxzaw - Trip report Singapore, Bali and Java (what makes aman)
SanDiego1K - 7/2005 - Amangalla, mini-trip report
theaviator - Aman Sri Lanka Photos

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Originally Posted by Musken View Post
For me it is great this way
one of my thoughts was seeing same person's comparisons
Originally Posted by Musken View Post
maybe it is within another thread
right, only trip report threads in this forum (with one exception)

i compiled report list on aug 12 2012 >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post19108351

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Old Jan 1, 17, 12:12 pm
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expectations >
Originally Posted by Fliar View Post
my first stay at Amanpulo and - even though this is Aman number 14 - I'm blown away
Originally Posted by Groombridge View Post
best stays of 2012 [Amanfayun # 3] Aman-Summer Palace # 4
I was blown away by how personalized the experiences...were, even by Aman's highest of standards.
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We expected...

So the great surprise of the trip was Amantaka which – even given the very high standards we have come to expect from Aman – is setting world-class service standards, and is one of the true jewels in the Aman crown. I’d never met Gary Tyson, Amantaka’s General Manager, before this stay, but given what he’s accomplished at Amantaka, he is someone we will now follow to whatever resort he happens to oversee. What he has done in creating service standards of the utmost polish and skill in a location where there was no former 5-star experience from which to draw, is astounding. (And if you get a chance, have him tell you about the process he went through of hiring and training new employees in a “fake Amantaka” he created to serve as a training site during the construction of the resort.) Aman resorts have spoiled many of us by setting the highest bar in the world for service and housekeeping standards, and even within this stiff competition, Amantaka rises to the very top.
Originally Posted by Musken View Post
Amanbagh...Service was the warmest, friendliest and most personal we have ever experienced at an Amanresort (and we have been to 17)
Originally Posted by Musken View Post
Amanpulo...The best service I have ever experienced after having been at 8 Amans...The most relaxing holiday I have ever been on. A beautiful island with dream beach
Originally Posted by BENLEE View Post
Family outing at the Amanjiwo, by far the most outstanding service I had ever encountered. The outings, the trips, the food, everything is Wow.
Originally Posted by Big_Foot View Post
Amanjiwo...What can I say, a different level of service. You must experience it to understand.
Originally Posted by opxzaw View Post
being there is just breathtaking. Amanjiwo is an architectural masterpiece...The GM was not there during our stay...without a doubt the best hotel we ever stayed at. It was truly a once in a lifetime experience. Only downside is that I don't think we will be able to top this, but repeat we can and we will.
Originally Posted by opxzaw View Post
GM, here too, was not there during our stay...I refer to my comments about Amanjiwo with regards to the Aman experience only that at Amankila it is even a touch better.
Originally Posted by jantaoYVR View Post
Jiwo was our first Aman...What an absolutely fabulous introduction to the brand, and has made us frequent many more Amans since!
Originally Posted by sfoactuary View Post
for the rest of our lives we will both always remember our first Aman experience at Amangalla. I had been reading about the so-called Aman experience, but the glowing descriptions that people wrote just didn't do it justice.
Originally Posted by gfunkdave View Post
The only hotels I've stayed at where I was wowed were:
Aman i Khas, India
Silky Oaks Lodge, Australia

And really, the Aman was a few notches more amazing than Silky Oaks. But that was mainly because of our personal butler and the fact that there were only about a dozen "rooms".

...it's the service that makes a high end hotel.
Originally Posted by msntriathlete View Post
Aman New Delhi...by far the best hotel experience we have had anywhere in the world.
Originally Posted by chelsea2 View Post
Our stay at Amanzoe was incredible - really exceeded expectations.
Originally Posted by jackjesco View Post
Kila exceeded all my expectations. Ernst is a truly wonderful GM.
Originally Posted by chicagocat View Post
Amangani...exceeded our expectations.
Originally Posted by francophile View Post
This was our first Aman stay and I must say now I understand why Aman is so highly praised on this forum. We have now tasted the drug and we want more of it. We can't wait to visit another
Originally Posted by NotHome View Post
AMANKORA...outstanding...we have made the classic mistake, our 1st stay at an Aman resort...logistics preparing the foods that they do are quite astounding
Originally Posted by bearbrick View Post
After several excruciating bouts of internal battles I decided that my choice for THE HOTEL is ... AMANPURI. at least until I stay in the next hotel that will blow my mind even after over 20 odd years.
Originally Posted by plumbar View Post
Amankila...First, the architecture is fabulous and unique. The rooms are luxurious in a "non-western" way. They incorporate their surroundings and environment. They don't try to fight it. Everything about the Amankila is about being in tune with your surroundings. It is very spiritual, too. The service is beyond reproach. I have been to many Four Season and other very high end resorts all over the world. Although they are fabulous too, there is a subtle difference between the way Aman resorts goes about taking care of their guests. They genuinely care about your well being. They never make you feel like they are doing you a favor. They have truly mastered the fine art of service to perfection.
Originally Posted by ngfan View Post
Amankila...Overall an exceptional resort and benchmark in service, staff attitude and overall experience for the rest of the hospitality world.
Originally Posted by epitopeX View Post
Before Awasi I was thinking "I wish all hotels are like Aman", and after Awasi I started to think "I wish all Amans are like Awasi..."
Originally Posted by injian View Post
over and beyond what we expected.
Originally Posted by trach500 View Post
Summer Palace...our first ever Aman...we were definitely blown away...Amanfayun...nicer than the Palace.
Originally Posted by eamus View Post
Amansara was everything I had hoped it would be, and more
Originally Posted by mad07 View Post
exceeded expectations!
Originally Posted by CanuckFlyHigh View Post
Amankila was my favorite hotel stay ever.
Originally Posted by nmuva98 View Post
I found Kila to be my best resort stay ever
more expectations: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post24698473
unique: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post22805109

aman bali
Musken: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post20435671
Ericka: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post12059719
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post20693573

aman
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post22947184
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post24132027
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post18454969
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post26330918

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previously >
Amanresorts Thread 2017
Amanresorts Thread 2016
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...manjunkie.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...manjunkie.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...manjunkie.html .
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...manjunkie.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...0-onwards.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...nd-2009-a.html

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Old Jan 1, 17, 12:25 pm
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Thanks Kage.

Per Aman's Facebook post today, sounds like Shanghai will open in "Autumn". Looks like we'll just miss it for our September trip. Would have loved to try it, even with the inevitable new-opening jitters.
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some news >
amanera sold to JV including Discovery Land
dolphin plans to sell amanzoe by end of 2019
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Thanks Kage.

Per Aman's Facebook post today, sounds like Shanghai will open in "Autumn". Looks like we'll just miss it for our September trip. Would have loved to try it, even with the inevitable new-opening jitters.
We just got back from Amanfayun and asked about Shanghai when we were there. The GM said that it will open in December.
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Big changes at board level at Aman

Big changes at board level at Aman. CEO Olivier Jolivet is out, replaced by Dorchester Collection's Roland Fasel (ex London and Regional). Lisa Bovio, Chief of Marketing and a Board member also rumoured to be out. Happy New Year!
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Big changes at board level at Aman. CEO Olivier Jolivet is out, replaced by Dorchester Collection's Roland Fasel (ex London and Regional). Lisa Bovio, Chief of Marketing and a Board member also rumoured to be out. Happy New Year!
I was told Roland will not be CEO, but COO, as CEO will be none other than Mr. Doronin himself.
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seems jolivet was doing tons of aman press coverage even in late december

"Le Must: Aman va ouvrir un 4ème resort à Shanghai au printemps 2017 - 21/11"
is a long TV interview might have some new shots of shanghai

hospitalitynet.org/staffmovement/79011696.html
Grays have moved to Six Senses corporate in bangkok
they were at Heckfield in UK, wonder if it is suspended
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I was told Roland will not be CEO, but COO, as CEO will be none other than Mr. Doronin himself.
You ae right - sorry, I meant COO. I have holiday-head!
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We just got back from Amanfayun and asked about Shanghai when we were there. The GM said that it will open in December.
How was your Fayun stay?

Thinking about heading there over the summer.
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How was your Fayun stay?

Thinking about heading there over the summer.
Overall, it was a great time and a great stay. It was the first time taking our 6-month old abroad and it all went smoothly--they provided all the amenities needed for an infant (even babysitting when we went to dinner). The weather was unseasonably warm (around 40 F), but air quality was good and it was sunny. We were in a 1 bedroom villa, which was plenty of space for the 3 of us. As expected, the best part was the villa and the village itself. We went to Longjing Tea Village, Nine creeks, Hefang Street, Traditional Chinese Medicine museum, and Hu’s Villa. Of course, we also went to West Lake.
A few random thoughts:
- Pre-arrival communication: They were very responsive and we felt more at ease because of it. They even took pictures of the infant car seats they had and asked if it was all right.
- Butlers. They have a team of butlers. It seems like their role is a combination of concierge and bellboys. I thing I wanted was to have some alcoholic drinks as part of the meal at the vegetarian house (which I'd skip next time), but they said that was impossible. Other than that, they did a good job arranging tours and reservations.
- Do not disturb signs. I guess this is just a "suggestion" in their eyes. Once, they knocked saying that they saw the sign but decided to ignore it jus to see how we're doing. Another time, I heard the lady on the walkie-talkie asking what she should do if the DND is on. Apparently, the answer was to just knock anyways.
- Stamps. I don't know what's up with these luxury hotels and charging for stamps! In any case, after a few minutes of negotiation, they agreed to mail our two postcards for free.
- Plumbing. I suppose it is an old village, but the toilet on the 2nd floor lacked water pressure and didn't flush well. Also, drains in the baths in the spa got clogged and flooded the whole room.
- Locals vs. Foreigners: I saw one Japanese family but everyone else seemed to speak Chinese. We speak Chinese, so it was all right, but I can see how it might be a challenge for non-Chinese speakers.
- Uighers, Xinjiang, and Muslims: We heard the staff at Amanfayun say that they always report any of "those people" to the authorities because the authorities need to keep a close eye on them. They mentioned there was an undercover cop from the Xinjiang province who had just booked with them in order to test if they would actually alert the local authorities. They were proud to say that they passed with flying colors. At the airport lounge, I asked why they took the alcohol away after my first drink. They said it was because a Qatar flight would be departing soon, and those people are crazy especially when they drink. (They gave me a bottle to put in my bag--go figure). My point is, depending on how you look or where you're from, you might have different treatment.
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Aman 2017... so far, a very disappointing experience. We're on a 3-week Bali & Beyond trip, and what was supposed to be the vacation highlight of the year will probably be our last Aman experience for the time being.

I'll write a detailed report after returning home, but what started very promising at Jiwo (thanks to Ian W who was temporarily on site) turned into our worst-ever Aman experience at Dari (too many service issues to mention, from massive housekeeping issues to a completely ignored birthday). GM and most senior staff were absent when we arrived and only returned the day before our departure. GM Jann H is a very likeable person, but coming from outside he doesn't yet fully understand what a true Aman-experience should be like.

Now we're at Wana where I'm sitting in the tent waiting for them to set up an umbrella for the sunbeds which so far has taken 60 minutes (and counting) and 2 phone calls. Also here, GMs and chef are on vacation. The manager in charge is doing is best.

Communication between the resorts in non-existent (they all have the same old address on file, address my wife by their maiden name, don't remember any preferences, etc.). The loss of old those long-standing GMs in now really starting to show. Worrying, worrying...

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Aman 2017... so far, a very disappointing experience. We're on a 3-week Bali & Beyond trip, and what was supposed to be the vacation highlight of the year will probably be our last Aman experience for the time being.

I'll write a detailed report after returning home, but what started very promising at Jiwo (thanks to Ian W who was temporarily on site) turned into our worst-ever Aman experience at Dari (too many service issues to mention, from massive housekeeping issues to a completely ignored birthday). GM and most senior staff were absent when we arrived and only returned the day before our departure. GM Jann H is a very likeable person, but clearly has no idea of what the Aman experience should be like. Now we're at Wana where I'm sitting in the tent waiting for them to set up an umbrella for the sunbeds which so far has taken 60 minutes (and counting) and 2 phone calls. Also here, GMs and chef are on vacation. The manager in charge is doing is best.

Communication between the resorts in non-existent (they all have the same old address on file, address my wife by their maiden name, don't remember any preferences, etc.). The loss of old those long-standing GMs in now really starting to show. Worrying, worrying...
Very, very disappointing. Sorry to hear about your experiences. We are planning on an Indonesia Aman honeymoon in 2018, so hope things turn around by then.

That said, my mother and her best friend just came back from Amandari and only had positive things to say.
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That said, my mother and her best friend just came back from Amandari and only had positive things to say.
Well, the resort is still beautiful and well maintained. It's 30 years old, but very charming and we liked it better than the brand-new glitzy RC Mandapa next door. And to be fair, things got a lot better when the management was present, but for an Aman this is simply not acceptable. As my wife said aptly, 'it looks like an Aman, but it doesn't feel like an Aman'.

Looks like we're getting our umbrella now
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