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Old Jan 3, 16, 5:46 am
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(Amanresorts Thread begun by http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/members/amanjunkie.html)
(upcoming - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...6-edition.html)

amanresorts trip report threads in this forum >
(number of reports where trip included multiple hotels = 54 [62% of 87 reports])

Ericka
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...oe-greece.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...giri-utah.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ya-turkey.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-amanpulo.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...a-morocco.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-amanyara.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...a-amanusa.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...amarvilas.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-maldives.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...n-hole-wy.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...rlton-etc.html

Musken
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...gh-palace.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...g-kong-fs.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-shutters.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ts-amanoi.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-cambodia.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ch-2013-a.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-amanruya.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-amanpulo.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...i-trisara.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-jimbaran.html

deathscar
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ilippines.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...indonesia.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...las-soori.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ch-2014-a.html

SwissBelgiantravelers
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-may-14-a.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...i-amanusa.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ripreport.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-amanjiwo.html

Londonjetsetter
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...els-india.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ti-stefan.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...n-amanusa.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-amankila.html

xracer
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...i-vietnam.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...i-amanzoe.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...uya-visit.html

halibahs
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...amarvilas.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html

Groombridge
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-amanpuri.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...rts-india.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...li-beyond.html

Fliar
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...pressions.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...er-hotels.html

FlyingDoctorwu
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ng-2015-a.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...nd-2014-a.html

5khours
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html

aa213bb
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...amangalla.html

cjthekid
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...an-palace.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html

blueline7
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html

jkirk
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...as-report.html

zigzag
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ws-please.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ary-party.html

theLuxuryTravelExpert - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ideo-clip.html
callmedtop - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-amantaka.html
Big_Foot - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-amanjiwo.html
epitopeX - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...rea-japan.html
chelsea2 - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...rney-siam.html
IB6825 - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ti-stefan.html
MacMyDay - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...en-greece.html
TheBrownPrince - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ni-review.html
LM225 - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-amankila.html
ACfly - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html
indianenglish - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ks-caicos.html
KI-NRT - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...taka-laos.html
NYflyer1 - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html
damaxer91 - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-amankila.html
Larkin - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html
ridefar - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...an-i-khas.html
kurl - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-amanpulo.html
latinrusso - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...udaivilas.html
rjhunjhu - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...yo-island.html
lilnemo - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-amanjena.html
HKboy - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...-amanjiwo.html
ClefsDor - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html
DavidO - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...tion-trip.html (what makes aman)
plumbar - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...gari-bali.html (what makes aman)
opxzaw - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...bali-java.html (what makes aman)
SanDiego1K - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html
theaviator - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ka-photos.html

by person, descending by date
Originally Posted by Musken View Post
For me it is great this way
one of my thoughts was seeing same person's comparisons
Originally Posted by Musken View Post
maybe it is within another thread
right, only trip report threads in this forum (with one exception)

i compiled report list on aug 12 2012 >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post19108351

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Originally Posted by blueline7 View Post
I will be focusing a little more on my attempt to unravel the mystery of Aman Resorts. Part of my mission was to find out, 'Why all the fuss about Aman', and I did in fact get to the bottom of this question.
Originally Posted by blueline7 View Post
Upon arrival, I was met after alighting from the Jetbridge, by a private arrival service representative contracted by Amandari, who guided me effortlessly through all the various immigration and security queues in a somewhat chaotic environment. This was an invaluable service and saved a lot of time and a big headache upon arrival. The airport was very, very busy, and being able to jump just about every queue was a god-send. The arrival service is included by Aman, and makes selecting Aman a very good choice, although I understand some arrival services are available for the general public as well. Arrival service in Bali is a must in my opinion.

The arrival service representative assisted me in collecting my luggage, and then passed me along to a white clad Amandari employee who greeted me and assisted me in the rest of the way to the waiting Amandari vehicle. The vehicle was not a luxury vehicle, but was a comfortable and clean mini van, and I was offered a cold cloth, a cold bottle of water, and some peanut snacks for the hour or so drive to Amandari, which is located in Ubud, to the north of the airport. The extremely pleasant and efficient arrival made me feel welcome and extraordinarily well taken care of, and the pleasant drive with a very helpful driver who explained many things about Bali along the way, was an extraordinary way to arrive. It was an appropriate introduction to Aman Resorts.
continued here - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...l#post16681455
and discussion here - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ip-report.html

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Old Jan 3, 16, 5:48 am
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- compilation - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post22062208
- http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ren-amans.html
- dining - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post22108740
- categories - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post27876604
- bali - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post20693573
- rates - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post25383207
- tokyo rates >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post25763372
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post26416297
- yacht rates - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post24926301
- http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...bora-bora.html
- http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post24798603 KB HS DV SW PA MS SB LR?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post26525999
- http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post22095432
- http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post27876604

some aman history >
Formerly Managed Aman Hotels
Hotels and Resorts that used to be Amans
Any Aman-style resorts in Australia?
milton park - 1993 through late 1998
strand - 1994 through early 1999
carcosa seri negara - through early 1999
chateau de bagnols - through late 1999
umaid bhawan - rates from nov 1 2003 to apr 4 2004
hacienda san antonio - rates from oct 1 2002 to sep 30 2005

if i had known, i would have done all 3 of the latter, bummer

aman
- http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post22947184
- http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post24132027
- http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post18454969
(http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post26330918)
- unique - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post22805109
- expectations - www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxury-hotels/1642117-amanresorts-thread-2015-started-amanjunkie-post24698473.html#post24698473

Originally Posted by Fliar View Post
my first stay at Amanpulo and - even though this is Aman number 14 - I'm blown away
Originally Posted by Groombridge View Post
best stays of 2012 [Amanfayun [URL=http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3]#3 ] Aman-Summer Palace #4
I was blown away by how personalized the experiences...were, even by Aman's highest of standards.
Originally Posted by Groombridge View Post
We expected...

So the great surprise of the trip was Amantaka which – even given the very high standards we have come to expect from Aman – is setting world-class service standards, and is one of the true jewels in the Aman crown. I’d never met Gary Tyson, Amantaka’s General Manager, before this stay, but given what he’s accomplished at Amantaka, he is someone we will now follow to whatever resort he happens to oversee. What he has done in creating service standards of the utmost polish and skill in a location where there was no former 5-star experience from which to draw, is astounding. (And if you get a chance, have him tell you about the process he went through of hiring and training new employees in a “fake Amantaka” he created to serve as a training site during the construction of the resort.) Aman resorts have spoiled many of us by setting the highest bar in the world for service and housekeeping standards, and even within this stiff competition, Amantaka rises to the very top.
Originally Posted by BENLEE View Post
Family outing at the Amanjiwo, by far the most outstanding service I had ever encountered. The outings, the trips, the food, everything is Wow.
Originally Posted by Big_Foot View Post
Amanjiwo ... What can I say, a different level of service. You must experience it to understand.
Originally Posted by opxzaw View Post
being there is just breathtaking. Amanjiwo is an architectural masterpiece...The GM was not there during our stay...without a doubt the best hotel we ever stayed at. It was truly a once in a lifetime experience. Only downside is that I don't think we will be able to top this, but repeat we can and we will.
Originally Posted by opxzaw View Post
GM, here too, was not there during our stay...I refer to my comments about Amanjiwo with regards to the Aman experience only that at Amankila it is even a touch better.
Originally Posted by jantaoYVR View Post
Jiwo was our first Aman...What an absolutely fabulous introduction to the brand, and has made us frequent many more Amans since!
Originally Posted by sfoactuary View Post
for the rest of our lives we will both always remember our first Aman experience at Amangalla. I had been reading about the so-called Aman experience, but the glowing descriptions that people wrote just didn't do it justice.
Originally Posted by gfunkdave View Post
The only hotels I've stayed at where I was wowed were:
Aman i Khas, India
Silky Oaks Lodge, Australia

And really, the Aman was a few notches more amazing than Silky Oaks. But that was mainly because of our personal butler and the fact that there were only about a dozen "rooms".

...it's the service that makes a high end hotel.
Originally Posted by chicagocat View Post
Amangani...exceeded our expectations.
Originally Posted by msntriathlete View Post
Aman New Delhi...by far the best hotel experience we have had anywhere in the world.
Originally Posted by francophile View Post
This was our first Aman stay and I must say now I understand why Aman is so highly praised on this forum. We have now tasted the drug and we want more of it. We can't wait to visit another
Originally Posted by NotHome View Post
AMANKORA...outstanding...we have made the classic mistake, our 1st stay at an Aman resort...logistics preparing the foods that they do are quite astounding
Originally Posted by bearbrick View Post
After several excruciating bouts of internal battles I decided that my choice for THE HOTEL is ... AMANPURI. at least until I stay in the next hotel that will blow my mind even after over 20 odd years.
Originally Posted by plumbar View Post
Amankila...

First, the architecture is fabulous and unique. The rooms are luxurious in a "non-western" way. They incorporate their surroundings and environment. They don't try to fight it. Everything about the Amankila is about being in tune with your surroundings. It is very spiritual, too. The service is beyond reproach. I have been to many Four Season and other very high end resorts all over the world. Although they are fabulous too, there is a subtle difference between the way Aman resorts goes about taking care of their guests. They genuinely care about your well being. They never make you feel like they are doing you a favor. They have truly mastered the fine art of service to perfection.
Originally Posted by ngfan View Post
Amankila...Overall an exceptional resort and benchmark in service, staff attitude and overall experience for the rest of the hospitality world.
Originally Posted by epitopeX View Post
Before Awasi I was thinking "I wish all hotels are like Aman", and after Awasi I started to think "I wish all Amans are like Awasi..."

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Under Colony, Amanresorts also sold a resort in Australia and gave up management contracts of hotels in Kuala Lumpur, Yangon, and Bagnols, France.

Amanresorts assets include majority ownership of eight resorts and minority stakes in the other three.
majority - puri and indonesia (dari 50%?) (bora bora?) (jena 50%?)
bora bora announced closure may 2008, closed oct 2008

some old aman reports outside luxury hotels forum >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...l-chennai.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip-...utan-last.html

drivers.lexus.com/pub-share/magazine/print.html?/pub-share/magazine/html/Lexus-Lifestyle/First-Resorts-2009.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post25957644
Pierre&Cédric reports jena spa/residences are finally beginning development
that would leave these projects undeveloped - nusa spa & ruya spa/residences
wonder whether ritz carlton reserve impacted long ago proposed 9-12 dari residences
interestingly (or maybe unsurprising) dari sits on complicated set of leasehold plots
if aman owns majority of hotel bora bora, maybe doronin would be interested in residences
i found it odd karma resorts has proposed residences next to amankila (rather than aman)

amex FHR 4th nt free >
bali, sara, taka - ends this month (bali Exclusives from $600 before free night)
jena - ends next month (jena has had other free night offers recently/before)

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interesting (happened after amanresorts was sold)
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserR...uz_Region.html
amanjena last weekend of August 2014

...At 11am on the day of check out I received an abrupt telephone call from management stating we were to leave the hotel property in its entirety by 12 noon. Management panicked when our butler fed back to them that we were nearly packed and heading to lunch at the poolside bar! We were informed that our table in the restaurant booked for 12 noon and...spa treatments...booked for 2pm and 4pm would not be honoured.

...At the time of check out and in later emails management insisted that we were informed that the hotel was being privately hired on our last day.
cant recall, someone may have posted social media from this >
football managers and their families that have recently married in the hotel
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post24631257
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post25849657

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interesting (happened after amanresorts was sold)
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserR...uz_Region.html


cant recall, someone may have posted social media from this >
That's horrible to read...

When corporate stops caring and a property lies then that's a big problem.
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didnt say whether they talked to GM/corporate, aman later gave money towards another hotel

at best, huge communication issue - when was takeover planned, and did some staff not know

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didnt say whether they talked to GM/corporate, they later got money towards another hotel

at best, huge communication issue - when was takeover planned, and did some staff not know?
i directly contacted management in aman headquarters thinking they would be shocked at these revelations, I was given the email address of the aman ceo who could not take the time to reply to any of my emails.
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my mistake, though not specific, plus context >

last weekend of August 2014
aug 2014 - jolivet CEO, following court ruling, following zecha > doronin > zecha > jolivet
with jul 31 2014 being zecha departure, and also seems jolivet "interim" at one point

mass firing at "headquarters" (in may when zecha out?) london HQ & CMO announced in jun

recently >
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They replaced [Amanjena GM] Gabriel Lousada very quickly, so they would have a GM for the Dec 5th party...Everyone else at Amanjena has left apart from Ahmed on the Front Desk. Omar has retired.
part of context is whether it was doronin hosting/sending guests at last minute
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post24631257
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post25849657

this is really the key >
Management panicked when our butler fed back
table..booked for 12 noon..spa..booked for 2pm and 4pm
when were bookings made by which staff - if bookings canceled, canceled by which staff
was butler unaware, as well as other staff (if staff fired, were they told by aug 2014)
was even "management" unaware of what time the incoming guests were arriving
who were incoming guests and what was importance (or not) of clearing hotel at noon
if it was important, at least a lack of awareness, if only calling one hour before noon

did guest book with hotel or via amex - if amex, did amex book/confirm table/spa
(if via amex, did amex fail to) also, not honoring FHR 4pm checkout is not unusual
did amex receive any communications that they then failed to pass along to guest
(some here have had management communications facilitated by virtuoso, not amex)

wonder when (in advance) they announced jun 7 2015 - oct 17 2015 closure

regardless, Pierre&Cédric posted that recent stay over holidays went very well

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Shouldn't this be really named Aman 2016 thread instead ?
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Shouldn't this be really named Aman 2016 thread instead ?
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the Group formerly known as Amanresorts

Thought this only happened in showbizzzz !
from internal email >
revised corporate logo (removal of ‘resorts’)...Aman.com
but at least they added some new photos and menus to new website

giri assistant GM - became GM at auberge costa rica

GMs
pending - ruya, giri
external - beijing, puri, wana, tokyo, bagh

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Amangalla

I am in the process of writing a trip report on a recent trip to Sri Lanka, but figured in the meantime I would include the link to my pics from Amangalla here. I stayed in room #25 which was a chamber.

https://shangrilavancouver.shutterfly.com/pictures/191
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So are any other FT members going to the London Aman event on the 22nd?
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Just got back in from the London event. It was good fun and great to meet a lot of the Aman staff, including many GMs. Doronin, Olivier Jolivet and Lisa Bovio were there, with Lisa in particular being absolutely wonderful. I think I've picked up half of Aman corporates business cards now. Unfortunately Sally (Amansara) could not attend as she broke her foot a few days earlier.

They had a Japanese calligrapher there who would draw your name and present it to you, all designed to semi-promo the opening of Amanemu. Not sure if it's been said elsewhere, but Aman Tokyo GM is moving on.

It sounds like they will be having more of these events in future cities in Europe and America. I'd recommend people to attend if they're thinking about it.
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Just got back in from the London event. It was good fun and great to meet a lot of the Aman staff, including many GMs.
Very cool! Thanks so much for the post!
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