Nov 1, 2022, 6:01 pm
Last edit by: RichardInSF
Please also see this outstanding thread in which KI-NRT has reviewed a number of luxury ryokan:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2095029&referrerid=14479
And here's a link to the main thread discussing luxury hotels in Tokyo:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1910955&referrerid=14479
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2095029&referrerid=14479
And here's a link to the main thread discussing luxury hotels in Tokyo:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1910955&referrerid=14479
Luxury hotels of Japan (outside of Tokyo)
Nov 7, 2018, 10:30 am
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Going to Osaka in January. Both RC Osaka and StR Osaka are priced the same.
I'm able to use club certs at RC to get breakfast or breakfast is included at the StR as a PP.
Which one is better?
I've stayed at RC Kyoto and loved the property. I plan to goto Nara for a day anyways, if RC Kyoto/Suiran is that much better I'd book that instead as well. Thx for the advice in advance!
I'm able to use club certs at RC to get breakfast or breakfast is included at the StR as a PP.
Which one is better?
I've stayed at RC Kyoto and loved the property. I plan to goto Nara for a day anyways, if RC Kyoto/Suiran is that much better I'd book that instead as well. Thx for the advice in advance!
We also stayed at the StR Osaka and loved it—especially the food/beverage and service. The Italian Le Veduta restaurant is sublime and we had a dinner there that could be Michelin worthy. We also loved the StR decor and ambience much more than at the RC, which we visited and toured rooms/suites (see my StR Osaka review above). The RC felt old and dated and its low ceilings and decadent decor made me feel geriatric. Depends on what you value more...but I think your upgrade chances are always better at a StR over a RC and generally you’ll be treated better. The bar at the StR is fab, too.
In Nara, I highly recommend lunch at 3* Wa Yamamura. It’s $56 per person and incredibly good.
Nov 26, 2018, 9:52 pm
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Hi All,
Any recent stays at Zaborin?
Thinking about going to Hokkaido for skiing and maybe stay at a nice ryokan around Niseko. Zaborin sounds like a perfect choice.
Also interested in Ginrinsou in Otaru, would love to hear any recent stays, thanks!
Any recent stays at Zaborin?
Thinking about going to Hokkaido for skiing and maybe stay at a nice ryokan around Niseko. Zaborin sounds like a perfect choice.
Also interested in Ginrinsou in Otaru, would love to hear any recent stays, thanks!
Dec 13, 2018, 7:57 pm
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I'm trying to decide between St. Regis Osaka and Conrad for a stay over NYE. I'm not familiar with the area, so not sure if one is particular better (or worse) over NYE and would appreciate thoughts from those who may have info. Thanks!
Dec 14, 2018, 12:19 am
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If you want a better hard product, the Conrad is a clear winner. If you want a better soft product (service and food/beverage), thr St Regis is the clear winner. We stayed at the StR and loved it. But we were also quite impressed with the hard product at the Conrad.
Dec 14, 2018, 9:05 am
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Views are amazing and hard product is very good, but you have to like open plan bathrooms if you're in the base rooms.
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Dec 14, 2018, 9:50 am
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We had an excellent stay even when without any suite upgrade when the StR was completely full up for several weddings. That says a lot to me. Also, the F/B at the StR blew the Conrad away. That matters a lot to us.
Dec 14, 2018, 10:25 am
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StR Osaka's location is a bit closer to any foreign bars and action too.
Dec 14, 2018, 10:34 am
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Dec 20, 2018, 2:04 am
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I had a two night stay at the Ritz Carlton in Kyoto in October. I checked in online the day before and was met as I got out of a local taxi, whisked straight to the room that was a 2 category upgrade (for a lowly silver at the time). The room was fantastic with a wonderful balcony, F&B was great and the hotel is probably the best large chain hotel I have stayed at, I think housekeeping is slightly below Aman standards and at the same level as the Peninsula LA.
The location really makes this hotel as it is so much more central than the Four Seasons.
The location really makes this hotel as it is so much more central than the Four Seasons.
Dec 20, 2018, 11:01 am
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Dec 20, 2018, 9:13 pm
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Dec 30, 2018, 11:45 pm
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I'm heading to Japan in May, and was able to secure 3 nights at the Suiran Kyoto on points (first time in Kyoto, so very excited about this). Any tips on managing a paid upgrade from the base reward room? How far is the property from the main sites in Kyoto that a first timer would likely want to see/do?
Starting with 3 nights in Tokyo. Stayed at FS a couple years ago, and had a great stay. Looking to try something new. Was noting many strong positive mentions of the Prince Gallery. Is that a favorite over the RC or Andaz or Shangri-La?
Many thanks in advance for helpful tips. Great thread!
Starting with 3 nights in Tokyo. Stayed at FS a couple years ago, and had a great stay. Looking to try something new. Was noting many strong positive mentions of the Prince Gallery. Is that a favorite over the RC or Andaz or Shangri-La?
Many thanks in advance for helpful tips. Great thread!
Dec 31, 2018, 9:10 am
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I'm heading to Japan in May, and was able to secure 3 nights at the Suiran Kyoto on points (first time in Kyoto, so very excited about this). Any tips on managing a paid upgrade from the base reward room? How far is the property from the main sites in Kyoto that a first timer would likely want to see/do?
Starting with 3 nights in Tokyo. Stayed at FS a couple years ago, and had a great stay. Looking to try something new. Was noting many strong positive mentions of the Prince Gallery. Is that a favorite over the RC or Andaz or Shangri-La?
Many thanks in advance for helpful tips. Great thread!
Starting with 3 nights in Tokyo. Stayed at FS a couple years ago, and had a great stay. Looking to try something new. Was noting many strong positive mentions of the Prince Gallery. Is that a favorite over the RC or Andaz or Shangri-La?
Many thanks in advance for helpful tips. Great thread!
Jan 1, 2019, 7:16 pm
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I'm heading to Japan in May, and was able to secure 3 nights at the Suiran Kyoto on points (first time in Kyoto, so very excited about this). Any tips on managing a paid upgrade from the base reward room? How far is the property from the main sites in Kyoto that a first timer would likely want to see/do?