Four Seasons... JET??
#31
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If this kind of trip appeals to a certain crowd that's great. I frankly think it's sad to see that amount of money go to waste om what is essentially a glorified package tour.
For that amount of money one could take a MUCH nicer trip...
#32
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Others run similar tours (e.g. Smithsonian and National Geographic) that include interesting sites (e.g. Bhutan) and are of similar cost. Those might be of interest to those short on time to see all sites and short on attention span - and they are accompanied by expert guides. They are uniformly wealthy.
#33
P.S. I hate Group traveling. So wasted 240000 $
#34
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I thought I was the only one who hated the very thought of group travel, I even hate the thought of a "day tour" or a site tour in a given destination. Good to know I have company! Hopefully a block of these tours doesn't show up and take up all the upgrade rooms at any of the Four Seasons I'm ever at! Also very much agree with others that this will likely attract the nouveau riche, some of whom behave in the most inappropriate and ghastly ways....
#35
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20 years Thomas Cook did a luxury charter around the world trip - private aircraft - 50-60 guests - luxury hotels. Alan Whicker, the British journalist, filmed it.
Turned out a bit like a fancy coach trip - stuck with the same people, same guide, little independence, 100k to stop in the hotels they want you to stop in, a lot of time sitting around travelling to and from airports. An inevitable compromise on luxury despite the huge cost.
If you didn't have the inclination to organise it yourself a a good travel agent I'm sure could do better for a lot less.
Turned out a bit like a fancy coach trip - stuck with the same people, same guide, little independence, 100k to stop in the hotels they want you to stop in, a lot of time sitting around travelling to and from airports. An inevitable compromise on luxury despite the huge cost.
If you didn't have the inclination to organise it yourself a a good travel agent I'm sure could do better for a lot less.
#36
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$130K single / $238K double "around the world"
$77K single / $138K double "backstage with the arts"
while expensive, its actually a fraction of the cost of traveling by private heavy jet
and paying cash for longhaul first class is not cheap
although "backstage with the arts" would not require heavy jet / longhaul
$77K single / $138K double "backstage with the arts"
while expensive, its actually a fraction of the cost of traveling by private heavy jet
and paying cash for longhaul first class is not cheap
although "backstage with the arts" would not require heavy jet / longhaul
And to add my $0.02 to the thread: what a ghastly waste of travel money.
#37
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But I agree. Just imagine being stuck on the same 757 with the same group of people all the way around the world..
#38
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Vacations are for getting away from people. The further the better. But I think I am preaching to the converted on this forum, mostly.
Back on topic: I do know of people that have done this trip (or the National Geographic one). They did it with their kids. They got to visit all kinds of places, safely ensconced in the FS reality distortion field. They felt safe. They never would have gone to the same places on their own. That wouldn't be safe. So there is absolutely a market for it. Not here, maybe, but in general.
#39
Orient-Express offered a similar trip in the past.
I had a look at their website today (learned it's now called Belmond apparently ) but they don't offer this trip.
They just offer journeys on a single continent.
So probably they did not have a public for this kind of trip.
I had a look at their website today (learned it's now called Belmond apparently ) but they don't offer this trip.
They just offer journeys on a single continent.
So probably they did not have a public for this kind of trip.
#40
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They group will be hardly "diverse". Probably all super rich CEO type people.
#41
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Hapag Lloyd has been doing something similar with the Albert ...... private jet for years. Supposedly it's well booked.
#42
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I'm comfortably beyond midsize company CEO pay (but I'm not even close to CEO). I'm even on track someday to be in the group that can afford this, *BUT* I save about 70% of my net pay while living small and/or on someone else's dime, depending.
Most people don't save anywhere near 70%, especially CEO types who tend to live large. There's ~60,000 people in the world who make enough passive income (as the other guy said "$3M in investment income") based on the Credit Suisse report. Add in the fact that ~30,000 people of that 60,000 can afford a private jet and the target market isn't all that big.
...and being the saver I am I wouldn't spend it on that anyway (even though I'd like to).
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#43
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They'd have to be richer than (most) CEOs...
I'm comfortably beyond midsize company CEO pay (but I'm not even close to CEO). I'm even on track someday to be in the group that can afford this, *BUT* I save about 70% of my net pay while living small and/or on someone else's dime, depending.
Most people don't save anywhere near 70%, especially CEO types who tend to live large. There's ~60,000 people in the world who make enough passive income (as the other guy said "$3M in investment income") based on the Credit Suisse report. Add in the fact that ~30,000 people of that 60,000 can afford a private jet and the target market isn't all that big.
...and being the saver I am I wouldn't spend it on that anyway (even though I'd like to).
I'm comfortably beyond midsize company CEO pay (but I'm not even close to CEO). I'm even on track someday to be in the group that can afford this, *BUT* I save about 70% of my net pay while living small and/or on someone else's dime, depending.
Most people don't save anywhere near 70%, especially CEO types who tend to live large. There's ~60,000 people in the world who make enough passive income (as the other guy said "$3M in investment income") based on the Credit Suisse report. Add in the fact that ~30,000 people of that 60,000 can afford a private jet and the target market isn't all that big.
...and being the saver I am I wouldn't spend it on that anyway (even though I'd like to).
I recall several saying it gave them the opportunity to see a bit of everything after which they would go back.
I seem to recall a neighbour of my parents did a similar but shorter tour on Concorde.
#44
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I cannot bear to be organised by someone, or to be paired involuntarily with people I may not like. Package tours are package tours. You just pay more for some.
#45
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Ah - that would be most of us on this board then I 'm sure there's not much 'Old Money' on here otherwise we'd all be staying with our pals in their villas, Manoirs or castles. I can't imagine the Grosvenors, Rothschilds, Kennedys or Thyssens ever having to ask where the best Luxury hotel in town is
And sometimes 'Old Money' don't have the money to stay in expensive hotels - didn't Gilberto and Bianca Arrivabene Valenti Gonzaga the owners of Palazzo Papadopoli say in an interview that they couldn't afford to stay in an Aman?
And sometimes 'Old Money' don't have the money to stay in expensive hotels - didn't Gilberto and Bianca Arrivabene Valenti Gonzaga the owners of Palazzo Papadopoli say in an interview that they couldn't afford to stay in an Aman?