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Four Seasons or Mandarin Oriental in Las Vegas?

Old Jul 21, 12, 10:32 am
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Four Seasons or Mandarin Oriental in Las Vegas?

I am looking at spending 2 nights in Las Vegas during the middle of August.

I can't decide between either of these hotels. Does the forum have some advice as to what are the pros and cons of each one?
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Old Jul 21, 12, 11:01 am
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Two great hotels. I feel with either you will be very happy. If you plan on spending more time within the hotel or at a specific restaurant, that can help you choose or if you are walking to a place that is closer to one hotel, that could be the reason to pick one over the other. I would not hesitate with choosing either, both are excellent.
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Old Jul 21, 12, 12:06 pm
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Agreed.

For me, though I love the tranquility of the FS, the MO is in a much better location. Add to that the "tiredness" of Mandalay Bay, and I might just lean towards MO.
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Old Jul 21, 12, 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by aa213bb View Post
Agreed.

For me, though I love the tranquility of the FS, the MO is in a much better location. Add to that the "tiredness" of Mandalay Bay, and I might just lean towards MO.
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Especially in the Aug heat!
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Old Jul 21, 12, 4:11 pm
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I have stayed at both. Prefer the four seasons, no question.
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Old Jul 21, 12, 8:32 pm
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I agree with what has been written.

The MO is newer and has a fabulous room product and stunning views of the Strip, especially from the bar.

The FS is more subdued. Walking in the lobby, it's as if you've escaped the hectic frenzy of Vegas and entered a secluded retreat. I think the FS probably has better service, and upgrades happen more frequently here. Better pool - and access to the Mandalay Bay pool too, if that's of any interest.

You won't go wrong with either choice!
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Old Jul 21, 12, 11:28 pm
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We have been debating this exact question. We have a five night stay in October and have booked a suite at the FS.
We decided on that because of the service, pool and views. The MO rooms look fantastic though and I will be checking them out when we are there.
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Old Jul 22, 12, 2:54 pm
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Been to both. MO Vegas was outright hostile to my virtuoso booking. We were put into a postage stamp standard room with a fantastic view of the Monte Carlo hotel roof. I've never seen a nicer roof. The public areas are dark, making it a fine environmental for bats. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THE CABANAS at the pool! So don't ask. The service at the Mosen restaurant was humorously bad. You can't eat in the lobby bar. Again, don't ask. The hotel is very awkward in City Center, but CC is one of the world's great jokes. Even the cab drivers have trouble finding it. To get to Aria and gambling requires a hike up several flights of stairs, followed by the crossing of a bus stop. The rooms have that high tech thing, requiring a user's manual to turn off the lights. 'Light switches' are so old fashioned. 60% of our closest-room was bathroom. The bell boys were good, helpful and very friendly. This is the only hotel in Vegas were I have been greeted by name. We didn't eat at the signature restaurants, but they both appear to be good.

FS Vegas is OK, but very much on the lower end of the chain, but hey, this is VEGAS. Be aware of the 'resort fee'. I find the place much more comfortable than the MO. More of a hostile oasis vibe within the Vegas chaos. The bell staff is more interested in hitting on chicks than helping guests ... that is, if they are present at all. The facilities at Mandalay Bay are much easier to get to, since, well, because, uhhh, FS is wholly contained within the Mandalay building. This point was lost on Lyn and Dave of Gallivanter's fame in their infamous, bewildering Apr'12 issue. Those two threw credibility aside in that issue.

FS is my choice in Vegas, but I dislike the city. Actually, I'm going there this week for the BlackHat Conference. And I'm not looking forward to it.

PS -- Just got back. Still issues with the bell staff, but otherwise a very good stay. (7/27/12)

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Old Jul 23, 12, 2:15 am
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Originally Posted by mike_la_jolla View Post
Been to both. MO Vegas was outright hostile to my virtuoso booking. We were put into a postage stamp standard room with a fantastic view of the Monte Carlo hotel roof. I've never seen a nicer roof. The public areas are dark, making it a fine environmental for bats. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THE CABANAS at the pool! So don't ask. The service at the Mosen restaurant was humorously bad. You can't eat in the lobby bar. Again, don't ask. The hotel is very awkward in City Center, but CC is one of the world's great jokes. Even the cab drivers have trouble finding it. To get to Aria and gambling requires a hike up several flights of stairs, followed by the crossing of a bus stop. The rooms have that high tech thing, requiring a user's manual to turn off the lights. 'Light switches' are so old fashioned. 60% of our closest-room was bathroom. The bell boys were good, helpful and very friendly. This is the only hotel in Vegas were I have been greeted by name. We didn't eat at the signature restaurants, but they both appear to be good.

FS Vegas is OK, but very much on the lower end of the chain, but hey, this is VEGAS. Be aware of the 'resort fee'. I find the place much more comfortable than the MO. More of a hostile oasis vibe within the Vegas chaos. The bell staff is more interested in hitting on chicks than helping guests ... that is, if they are present at all. The facilities at Mandalay Bay are much easier to get to, since, well, because, uhhh, FS is wholly contained within the Mandalay building. This point was lost on Lyn and Dave of Gallivanter's fame in their infamous, bewildering Apr'12 issue. Those two threw credibility aside in that issue.

FS is my choice in Vegas, but I dislike the city. Actually, I'm going there this week for the BlackHat Conference. And I'm not looking forward to it.
Mandarin Oriental, some points against yours:

You can use the cabanas if you pay for them.

All cab drivers know where CC is now. If one gave you the impression he didn't he was long hauling you.

Several flights of stairs to get to Aria? There is one flight of stairs. The road you cross is what, 20/25 foot wide with minimal traffic.

You have to be pretty stupid if you can't figure out how to press the lighting button on the touch screen pad by the bedside table.... You can switch off the lighting using the switches by the bed too.
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Old Jul 23, 12, 11:24 am
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Originally Posted by DavidO View Post
I agree with what has been written.

The MO is newer and has a fabulous room product and stunning views of the Strip, especially from the bar.

The FS is more subdued. Walking in the lobby, it's as if you've escaped the hectic frenzy of Vegas and entered a secluded retreat. I think the FS probably has better service, and upgrades happen more frequently here. Better pool - and access to the Mandalay Bay pool too, if that's of any interest.

You won't go wrong with either choice!
I agree with David. I stayed at the MO last weekend; have stayed at the 4S the prior two trips. Where I go next really depends on what I'm looking for that particular trip. I don't think I've ever been upgraded at the MO but the lowest level rooms are better than anything at the 4S up to the Executive Suite level.

Modern vibe, room, location, spa - MO

Relaxed vibe, pool, main restaurant - 4S

Toss up over which adjacent casino is better. Maybe MO.
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Old Jul 23, 12, 4:47 pm
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I prefer the Four Seasons, but the Mandalay Bay complex is one of my favourites so I'm a bit biased. Pool area is amazing, restaurants are good. And you're down the "novelty" end of the strip which I prefer though it is a little out of the way. I didn't gamble there so don't know about the casino.

The four seasons itself is out of the way of mainstream Mandalay Bay which is a big advantage with none of the drawbacks.
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Old Jul 23, 12, 8:45 pm
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The MO also now charges a Resort fee as well.

One thing I found about MoZEN was their penchant to nickle and dime you. With the American breakfast I was charged $9 for a second glass of Orange juice. At the FS, you can drink virtually as much juice as you want with their breakfast. Eating outside at Verandah is very enjoyable as opposed to indoors at MoZEN.

I don't like the fact the most of the room at the MO is taken up by bathroom. The views of the Strip are great from the MO but I find the views just as stunning from the FS Strip rooms as well.

Between the two, I prefer the FS overall but the location is a bit remote, which can be a good thing in Vegas. One last note, the House car at the MO doesn't like to take you to the airport even though it is within radius. At the FS, no such problems.

Enjoy your trip!
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Old Jul 24, 12, 11:42 am
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I think DavidO captures it perfectly.

I just returned from a visit to the MO, which was a visit intended to make up for what I consider significant service issues experienced during my last stay.

MO has the far superior location and newer furnishings (although they are starting to show wear and tear...who wants to see scuff marks on a dark lacquered floor???). They do try but the service is just not there. They were clearly trying hard this weekend and I was still astounded by the amateur level of service (for example, who leaves a large platter of sliced fruit with mold on it in the living room for three days?). If this past weekend is anything to judge by, the hotel is starting to attract a slightly older variation on the Encore Beach crowd, which I try to actively avoid when I am in Vegas.

Despite its dated appearance, the FS is the better hotel. It is a quiet oasis with impeccable service. Unfortunately the location means you have to take cabs (or the hotel courtesy car) up the Strip.
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Old Jul 24, 12, 12:53 pm
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I've never been to the FS in Vegas, but I love the MO. Mostly, I love that you don't see drunken idiots stumbling around. I love that you can get to your room in less than 4 minutes from walking in the door. I thought the entry level room size was pretty generous and loved all the bells and whistles. I love the relaxing un-vegas vibe. That being said, I hate Vegas, and the MO is the only place I feel like I'm not on somebody else's bachelor party.
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Old Jul 25, 12, 5:58 am
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I've never been to the FS in Vegas, but I love the MO. Mostly, I love that you don't see drunken idiots stumbling around. I love that you can get to your room in less than 4 minutes from walking in the door. I thought the entry level room size was pretty generous and loved all the bells and whistles. I love the relaxing un-vegas vibe. That being said, I hate Vegas, and the MO is the only place I feel like I'm not on somebody else's bachelor party.
FS is quite good for this as well- it has a completely separate entrance, I have never seen drunk people their (idiots or otherwise) as it really doesn't have that type of atmoshphere, unless you are a drunken idiot you will be able to get to your room in less than 4 minutes, and the vibe is completely un-vegas which is great.

I am completely with you in hating Vegas by the way- so FS is where I "hide away" if I go at all. This being said- the FS is overdue for a rennovation- whereas the MO is a brand new hotel.
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