Luxury Hotels In New York
#121
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there are no minimum rental laws in new york city
(such laws do exist, but i think they are rare)
plenty of (luxury) hotel options (room with kitchen, or apartment, or condohotel)
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; May 22, 2013 at 10:05 pm
#122
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The Mark has particularly good looking kitchens with brand new appliances.
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#123
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http://skift.com/2013/01/07/airbnbs-...legal-rentals/
Some of the main reasons behind the laws are health and safety issues (hotels and similar are held to higher standards than standard residential occupancies when it comes to things like fire codes). Robyn
#124
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NYC >
thanks robyng, 2 years ago, cant believe i forgot
re rentals less than 30 days >
(lux) condohotel seem legal, hotel fractional (incl st regis) and timeshare must be legal
seems to only apply to multi-family, and there seem to be other legal exceptions as well
in general >
maybe the laws are becoming more common, using existing laws as precedent
thanks robyng, 2 years ago, cant believe i forgot
re rentals less than 30 days >
(lux) condohotel seem legal, hotel fractional (incl st regis) and timeshare must be legal
seems to only apply to multi-family, and there seem to be other legal exceptions as well
in general >
maybe the laws are becoming more common, using existing laws as precedent
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; May 26, 2013 at 10:55 am
#125
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I am currently staying in an entry level suite at the Carlyle hotel on the Upper East Side.
This is a luxury hotel that was built in 1930 and it shows its age in the usual ways, such as tiny, tiny, tiny bathrooms. You literally have to do a bit of contortion to exit the shower/bath and if you forget to put the top of the seat down, you may find yourself stepping into the toilet. It is a genuine suite -- two rooms, ample closet space, and a guest lavatory with sink and toilet (which is more spacious than in the main bathroom). The noisy a/c is clearly a more recent addition and cycles on and off with apparently no way to leave the noise level constant. Rooms do have adequate lighting. Furnishings are well-aged and not overwhelming in quality to begin with. TVs have been updated to flat panels.
There are 3-4 lifts but only two are usable during the day and only one at all other times, because the hotel chooses to require lift attendants in the small, but automatic, elevators and they don't have more attendants on duty than noted.
The included virtuoso/FHR buffet breakfast is nothing special with a smallish selection; overall decent. For Virtuoso, you can choose room service but only get a $50 room credit. As two continental breakfasts cost $72++ through room service, your credit won't go far.
On the plus side, staff seems quite anxious to help, with the exception of some gnarly front desk staff.
The hotel seems to encourage lots of pets, kids, and long term residents.
I don't see peeling paint as reported by folks at the Waldorf-Astoria Towers but I suspect the vintage is about the same.
Internet access is $15 a day plus tax.
I likely will pick somewhere else next time. It's really remodel time here.
Looking back at DavidO's review three years ago in the following thread, it's hard to believe we stayed at the same hotel -- maybe other rooms had been renovated and mine wasn't? However, my room is ivory colored; if it has been renovated, it hasn't aged well. Note that Virtuoso amenities have been significantly degraded since David's stay. The additional amenity is now a $100 spa credit; it's hard to know what this is really worth without hassle as the in-room spa catalog doesn't list prices!
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...ferrerid=14479
This is a luxury hotel that was built in 1930 and it shows its age in the usual ways, such as tiny, tiny, tiny bathrooms. You literally have to do a bit of contortion to exit the shower/bath and if you forget to put the top of the seat down, you may find yourself stepping into the toilet. It is a genuine suite -- two rooms, ample closet space, and a guest lavatory with sink and toilet (which is more spacious than in the main bathroom). The noisy a/c is clearly a more recent addition and cycles on and off with apparently no way to leave the noise level constant. Rooms do have adequate lighting. Furnishings are well-aged and not overwhelming in quality to begin with. TVs have been updated to flat panels.
There are 3-4 lifts but only two are usable during the day and only one at all other times, because the hotel chooses to require lift attendants in the small, but automatic, elevators and they don't have more attendants on duty than noted.
The included virtuoso/FHR buffet breakfast is nothing special with a smallish selection; overall decent. For Virtuoso, you can choose room service but only get a $50 room credit. As two continental breakfasts cost $72++ through room service, your credit won't go far.
On the plus side, staff seems quite anxious to help, with the exception of some gnarly front desk staff.
The hotel seems to encourage lots of pets, kids, and long term residents.
I don't see peeling paint as reported by folks at the Waldorf-Astoria Towers but I suspect the vintage is about the same.
Internet access is $15 a day plus tax.
I likely will pick somewhere else next time. It's really remodel time here.
Looking back at DavidO's review three years ago in the following thread, it's hard to believe we stayed at the same hotel -- maybe other rooms had been renovated and mine wasn't? However, my room is ivory colored; if it has been renovated, it hasn't aged well. Note that Virtuoso amenities have been significantly degraded since David's stay. The additional amenity is now a $100 spa credit; it's hard to know what this is really worth without hassle as the in-room spa catalog doesn't list prices!
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...ferrerid=14479
Last edited by RichardInSF; Aug 5, 2013 at 9:50 pm
#126
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I am currently staying in an entry level suite at the Carlyle hotel on the Upper East Side.
This is a luxury hotel that was built in 1930 and it shows its age in the usual ways, such as tiny, tiny, tiny bathrooms. You literally have to do a bit of contortion to exit the shower/bath and if you forget to put the top of the seat down, you may find yourself stepping into the toilet. It is a genuine suite -- two rooms, ample closet space, and a guest lavatory with sink and toilet (which is more spacious than in the main bathroom). The noisy a/c is clearly a more recent addition and cycles on and off with apparently no way to leave the noise level constant. Rooms do have adequate lighting. Furnishings are well-aged and not overwhelming in quality to begin with. TVs have been updated to flat panels.
There are 3-4 lifts but only two are usable during the day and only one at all other times, because the hotel chooses to require lift attendants in the small, but automatic, elevators and they don't have more attendants on duty than noted.
The included virtuoso/FHR buffet breakfast is nothing special with a smallish selection; overall decent. For Virtuoso, you can choose room service but only get a $50 room credit. As two continental breakfasts cost $72++ through room service, your credit won't go far.
On the plus side, staff seems quite anxious to help, with the exception of some gnarly front desk staff.
The hotel seems to encourage lots of pets, kids, and long term residents.
I don't see peeling paint as reported by folks at the Waldorf-Astoria Towers but I suspect the vintage is about the same.
Internet access is $15 a day plus tax.
I likely will pick somewhere else next time. It's really remodel time here.
Looking back at DavidO's review three years ago in the following thread, it's hard to believe we stayed at the same hotel -- maybe other rooms had been renovated and mine wasn't? However, my room is ivory colored; if it has been renovated, it hasn't aged well. Note that Virtuoso amenities have been significantly degraded since David's stay. The additional amenity is now a $100 spa credit; it's hard to know what this is really worth without hassle as the in-room spa catalog doesn't list prices!
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...ferrerid=14479
This is a luxury hotel that was built in 1930 and it shows its age in the usual ways, such as tiny, tiny, tiny bathrooms. You literally have to do a bit of contortion to exit the shower/bath and if you forget to put the top of the seat down, you may find yourself stepping into the toilet. It is a genuine suite -- two rooms, ample closet space, and a guest lavatory with sink and toilet (which is more spacious than in the main bathroom). The noisy a/c is clearly a more recent addition and cycles on and off with apparently no way to leave the noise level constant. Rooms do have adequate lighting. Furnishings are well-aged and not overwhelming in quality to begin with. TVs have been updated to flat panels.
There are 3-4 lifts but only two are usable during the day and only one at all other times, because the hotel chooses to require lift attendants in the small, but automatic, elevators and they don't have more attendants on duty than noted.
The included virtuoso/FHR buffet breakfast is nothing special with a smallish selection; overall decent. For Virtuoso, you can choose room service but only get a $50 room credit. As two continental breakfasts cost $72++ through room service, your credit won't go far.
On the plus side, staff seems quite anxious to help, with the exception of some gnarly front desk staff.
The hotel seems to encourage lots of pets, kids, and long term residents.
I don't see peeling paint as reported by folks at the Waldorf-Astoria Towers but I suspect the vintage is about the same.
Internet access is $15 a day plus tax.
I likely will pick somewhere else next time. It's really remodel time here.
Looking back at DavidO's review three years ago in the following thread, it's hard to believe we stayed at the same hotel -- maybe other rooms had been renovated and mine wasn't? However, my room is ivory colored; if it has been renovated, it hasn't aged well. Note that Virtuoso amenities have been significantly degraded since David's stay. The additional amenity is now a $100 spa credit; it's hard to know what this is really worth without hassle as the in-room spa catalog doesn't list prices!
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...ferrerid=14479
#127
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That suggests that I am on an unrefurbed floor, especially given that the flooring has lost its varnish in spots.
#128
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Always best to ask for a refurbished room. Sounds as though yours was not, given the floor.
#130
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: New York, NY
Programs: FSPP, Virtuoso, Belmond Bellini Club, STARS, Hyatt Priv, Peninsula PenClub, etc.
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Re: Langham Place Fifth Avenue (formerly The Setai Fifth Avenue) the other nice aspect of Virtuoso, in addition to the included amenities (upgrade on availability, complimentary breakfast, $100 F&B credit) is that the rates are 10% lower than BAR. Just booked a client here, who is appreciative of the larger rooms (smallest are 420 sq ft and next smallest is 688 sq ft) vs. other NYC rooms. Cons are that there's no pool and have found Ai Fiori underwhelming for lunch, though breakfast was quite good.
Thank you for the warm welcome.
I've found that some of the things that have resulted in making another reservation (niceties like free complete refills of the minibar, drycleaning services, etc.) have either been changed or completely removed. AMEX's rate is currently lower than LHW's but since it's not FHR, there's no real incentives. The Virtuoso option doesn't sound half bad.
I've found that some of the things that have resulted in making another reservation (niceties like free complete refills of the minibar, drycleaning services, etc.) have either been changed or completely removed. AMEX's rate is currently lower than LHW's but since it's not FHR, there's no real incentives. The Virtuoso option doesn't sound half bad.
#131
The lack of a pool is definitively a con. I had dinner and lunch at Ai Fiori and both was really good, in my eyes one level with Marea. But ist was March 2012
#133
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Soho luxury?
I'm travelling to NYC next year for the US open tennis and will be staying in Soho, (we like Soho).
On a previous visit we stayed in the Trump Soho which was very nice rooms and bathrooms but would like something a little different this time. Thinking of The Greenwich & Crosby street at the moment but I'm open to suggestions.
Thanks
On a previous visit we stayed in the Trump Soho which was very nice rooms and bathrooms but would like something a little different this time. Thinking of The Greenwich & Crosby street at the moment but I'm open to suggestions.
Thanks
#134
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I'm travelling to NYC next year for the US open tennis and will be staying in Soho, (we like Soho).
On a previous visit we stayed in the Trump Soho which was very nice rooms and bathrooms but would like something a little different this time. Thinking of The Greenwich & Crosby street at the moment but I'm open to suggestions.
Thanks
On a previous visit we stayed in the Trump Soho which was very nice rooms and bathrooms but would like something a little different this time. Thinking of The Greenwich & Crosby street at the moment but I'm open to suggestions.
Thanks
#135
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 148
http://nypost.com/2013/12/09/slick-n...and-furiously/
Good to know there will be many more luxury hotels to choose from in New York City
Good to know there will be many more luxury hotels to choose from in New York City