R-C Fort Lauderdale
#1
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R-C Fort Lauderdale
We're planning a FL trip end of next March, 2 adults + 2 toddlers.
The obvious choices are RC FLL, RC Naples (beach), RC Palm Beach, FS Palm Beach and The Breakers (omitting RC Biscayne due to risk of conferences and some negative comments on rooms).
The kids are too young to benefit from any of the kids clubs, so our choice comes down to good rooms, okay eating on-site and good pool and beach, with very little movement from the property.
Give or take a little, all of the above options score on our wish-list.
For some reason, the RC FLL is WAY cheaper on our dates - a 2-bedroom residential suite (with club access to what is apparently a great club) is approximately the same price as a premier room at the FS Palm Beach.
So, my question is, am I missing something here, and is the RC FL somehow not as great as the other hotels? I have read every thread on here, and all I can see is that (a) there is no beach service, (b) the pool gets shaded in the pm, (c) it is not "direct" beachfront, and so not a true "resort" hotel. But none of this appears to be a deal-breaker, and in fact many people comment on how lovely the property is.
We're open to suggestions if anyone thinks we'd be better off at one of the other properties.
Has anyone actually seen inside one of the residential suites at the RC FLL?
Finally, as a little curveball, I noticed that someone recommended the Loews Don Cesar, and it is apparently being refurbished by Feb next year. Any thoughts on this?
Cheers
BM
The obvious choices are RC FLL, RC Naples (beach), RC Palm Beach, FS Palm Beach and The Breakers (omitting RC Biscayne due to risk of conferences and some negative comments on rooms).
The kids are too young to benefit from any of the kids clubs, so our choice comes down to good rooms, okay eating on-site and good pool and beach, with very little movement from the property.
Give or take a little, all of the above options score on our wish-list.
For some reason, the RC FLL is WAY cheaper on our dates - a 2-bedroom residential suite (with club access to what is apparently a great club) is approximately the same price as a premier room at the FS Palm Beach.
So, my question is, am I missing something here, and is the RC FL somehow not as great as the other hotels? I have read every thread on here, and all I can see is that (a) there is no beach service, (b) the pool gets shaded in the pm, (c) it is not "direct" beachfront, and so not a true "resort" hotel. But none of this appears to be a deal-breaker, and in fact many people comment on how lovely the property is.
We're open to suggestions if anyone thinks we'd be better off at one of the other properties.
Has anyone actually seen inside one of the residential suites at the RC FLL?
Finally, as a little curveball, I noticed that someone recommended the Loews Don Cesar, and it is apparently being refurbished by Feb next year. Any thoughts on this?
Cheers
BM
#2
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Was at the FS Palm Beach last week and had an excellent stay. Also spent a few days at the RC Palm Beach prior to the FS and liked the FS much better. I'll be posting a full trip report with pictures in the next day or two, so be sure to take a read. Have not been to the RC FLL so cannot comment on that property.
#3
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Was at the FS Palm Beach last week and had an excellent stay. Also spent a few days at the RC Palm Beach prior to the FS and liked the FS much better. I'll be posting a full trip report with pictures in the next day or two, so be sure to take a read. Have not been to the RC FLL so cannot comment on that property.
#5
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I have stayed at all four hotels mentioned as I live in nearby Naples, Florida.
That said, here is how I would rank them
1. The Breakers
2. Ritz Carlton Fort Lauderdale
3. Four Seasons Palm Beach
4. Ritz Carlton Palm Beach
The Breakers no doubt blows them all away. Rooms are small no doubt, but everything else about it is world class, truly one of the resort palaces on the face of the earth!
RC Fort Lauderdale is across street from and on a very public beach. Despite, the rooms there are incredible and the art deco feel of the hotel is very unique. Both the FS and RC Palm Beach are just very routine FS and RC, nothing to write home about.
Finally, if for no other reason, the pool set up as well as food and beverage operation at the Breakers make it my number one choice.
Worldspan
That said, here is how I would rank them
1. The Breakers
2. Ritz Carlton Fort Lauderdale
3. Four Seasons Palm Beach
4. Ritz Carlton Palm Beach
The Breakers no doubt blows them all away. Rooms are small no doubt, but everything else about it is world class, truly one of the resort palaces on the face of the earth!
RC Fort Lauderdale is across street from and on a very public beach. Despite, the rooms there are incredible and the art deco feel of the hotel is very unique. Both the FS and RC Palm Beach are just very routine FS and RC, nothing to write home about.
Finally, if for no other reason, the pool set up as well as food and beverage operation at the Breakers make it my number one choice.
Worldspan
#6
Join Date: Jan 2003
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I have stayed at all four hotels mentioned as I live in nearby Naples, Florida.
That said, here is how I would rank them
1. The Breakers
2. Ritz Carlton Fort Lauderdale
3. Four Seasons Palm Beach
4. Ritz Carlton Palm Beach
The Breakers no doubt blows them all away. Rooms are small no doubt, but everything else about it is world class, truly one of the resort palaces on the face of the earth!
RC Fort Lauderdale is across street from and on a very public beach. Despite, the rooms there are incredible and the art deco feel of the hotel is very unique. Both the FS and RC Palm Beach are just very routine FS and RC, nothing to write home about.
Finally, if for no other reason, the pool set up as well as food and beverage operation at the Breakers make it my number one choice.
Worldspan
That said, here is how I would rank them
1. The Breakers
2. Ritz Carlton Fort Lauderdale
3. Four Seasons Palm Beach
4. Ritz Carlton Palm Beach
The Breakers no doubt blows them all away. Rooms are small no doubt, but everything else about it is world class, truly one of the resort palaces on the face of the earth!
RC Fort Lauderdale is across street from and on a very public beach. Despite, the rooms there are incredible and the art deco feel of the hotel is very unique. Both the FS and RC Palm Beach are just very routine FS and RC, nothing to write home about.
Finally, if for no other reason, the pool set up as well as food and beverage operation at the Breakers make it my number one choice.
Worldspan
In Palm Beach, I put the FS as tops (in the winter) and the RC and Breakers largely tied. The FS is the most intimate of the properties, and I have found to have the most consistent service and fewest corporate events.
The Breakers is old school; RC-PB is perhaps a speck too big. RC has a very nice club staff, but the club itself seems to face cutbacks every year.
The RC-FLL is the best qpr of these four properties by a mile. It is a different offering than the three palm beach properties - but it is in Lauderdale, versus Palm Beach. Inside the hotel, it is very nice, but when you step outside, you know you are not in palm beach. The rc-fll it is the newest, tallest, has the best (but most public) beach and has the best club offering perhaps of any RC in the continental US right now.
I've compared these properties at length in this forum. I'll pull up a link to those posts earlier this year.
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Please read these prior posts.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16650427-post4.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16348951-post6.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16369992-post6.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16485110-post2.html
If you have your mind set on PB, go with the Four Seasons.
If the price difference is other than trivial, and you're looking for something a bit more hip (but not South Beach hip), go with RC-FLL.
Regardless of the property, be sure you book with Amex FHR or a fspp or RC-stars (as appropriate) agent to get free breakfast, upgrades, etc...
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16650427-post4.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16348951-post6.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16369992-post6.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16485110-post2.html
If you have your mind set on PB, go with the Four Seasons.
If the price difference is other than trivial, and you're looking for something a bit more hip (but not South Beach hip), go with RC-FLL.
Regardless of the property, be sure you book with Amex FHR or a fspp or RC-stars (as appropriate) agent to get free breakfast, upgrades, etc...
#8
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Finally, if you go FLL, and you like steak, check out Steak 954. It's two or so blocks north of the RC, in the W hotel. It is, without a doubt, one of the best steaks outside of NY that I've ever had. Not the sort of garbage you get in the chain places...this place was really something notable.
If you aren't into steak, check out the FLL restaurants and bars on Las Olas. It's a 10 minute drive or cab from the RC-FLL, but you'll find a surprisingly wide variety of good foods - and lively (but generally not too lively) bars.
Let us know what you end up doing.
If you aren't into steak, check out the FLL restaurants and bars on Las Olas. It's a 10 minute drive or cab from the RC-FLL, but you'll find a surprisingly wide variety of good foods - and lively (but generally not too lively) bars.
Let us know what you end up doing.
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Thanks for the additional replies. NYBanker I had already avidly read all your posts, and they were very helpful, as is the recent Trip Report on the FS Palm Beach.
I think that we have narrowed the choice down to RC FLL and the FS PB, and price-wise the RC probably has it, although I like the FS PB environment and beach access a lot more. It's a tough choice, but not exactly a bad one to have to make!
We will let you know what we end up doing.
Thanks again for all the input.
BM
I think that we have narrowed the choice down to RC FLL and the FS PB, and price-wise the RC probably has it, although I like the FS PB environment and beach access a lot more. It's a tough choice, but not exactly a bad one to have to make!
We will let you know what we end up doing.
Thanks again for all the input.
BM
#10
I was in pretty much the same position as you are right now just a couple of weeks ago, and after looking into pretty much every hotel from Miami to Palm Beach, I ended up choosing FS Palm Beach. The three main reasons for picking FS Palm Beach was the quiet location, direct beach access and the fact that we wanted to feel pampered and spoiled for a week.
I can, however, total appreciate how you're feeling, it took many weeks before I made up my mind and settled on a hotel. I still have my doubts and pretty much not a day goes by without me almost changing my mind and splitting the 6 nights stay between more than one hotel (partially to increase the actual value of the FHR amenity).
I must say that it's a very privileged problem to have tho.
I can, however, total appreciate how you're feeling, it took many weeks before I made up my mind and settled on a hotel. I still have my doubts and pretty much not a day goes by without me almost changing my mind and splitting the 6 nights stay between more than one hotel (partially to increase the actual value of the FHR amenity).
I must say that it's a very privileged problem to have tho.
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I was in pretty much the same position as you are right now just a couple of weeks ago, and after looking into pretty much every hotel from Miami to Palm Beach, I ended up choosing FS Palm Beach. The three main reasons for picking FS Palm Beach was the quiet location, direct beach access and the fact that we wanted to feel pampered and spoiled for a week.
I can, however, total appreciate how you're feeling, it took many weeks before I made up my mind and settled on a hotel. I still have my doubts and pretty much not a day goes by without me almost changing my mind and splitting the 6 nights stay between more than one hotel (partially to increase the actual value of the FHR amenity).
I must say that it's a very privileged problem to have tho.
I can, however, total appreciate how you're feeling, it took many weeks before I made up my mind and settled on a hotel. I still have my doubts and pretty much not a day goes by without me almost changing my mind and splitting the 6 nights stay between more than one hotel (partially to increase the actual value of the FHR amenity).
I must say that it's a very privileged problem to have tho.
#12
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I stayed at the Ritz Carlton Ft Lauderdale earlier this month. This was my second stay. Posted a visit report here.
Certainly tops in FLL, and one of the best QPRs in South Florida.
Certainly tops in FLL, and one of the best QPRs in South Florida.
#13
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And here is a recent write-up from Luxury Travel Advisor on this property:
http://www.luxurytraveladvisor.com/u...ort-lauderdale
http://www.luxurytraveladvisor.com/u...ort-lauderdale
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Question to you...what sights are you hoping to see? (This may impact the answer as to suitability.)