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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Jun 16, 2019, 10:16 pm
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Originally Posted by sammyg901
Hi! What a great thread

I am transiting from SQ326 from Singapore to LH258 to Milan Malpensa

I would like to buy a bottle of duty free in Changi. I've read through some of the above and it seems like SQ usually arrives at the non-Schengen B gates - which may or may not be considered "clean" on the day ?

I know Amsterdam "trusts" Singapore LAG bags now - does Frankfurt do the same? Or would there be any opportunity to check my carry on bag before security? Though with a 60 min connection I am not sure I would consider doing that anyway!
Ask the duty-free employee at Changi to put your alcoholic beverage to a sealed bag. If your bottle is in a sealed bag, there won't be issues in case you need to reclear security. For intra-Schengen flights or for flights departing from Germany ( unless the arrival country restricts ) there are no restrictions for duty-free purchases bought from another airport.

If you need to reclear security, remove your bottle from your bag and put it into a separate tray with it's sealed bag. There won't be any issues. The worst-case scenario, the security employees would check the date of your receipt which would be inside your sealed bag.
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Originally Posted by ISTFlyer
Ask the duty-free employee at Changi to put your alcoholic beverage to a sealed bag. If your bottle is in a sealed bag, there won't be issues in case you need to reclear security. For intra-Schengen flights or for flights departing from Germany ( unless the arrival country restricts ) there are no restrictions for duty-free purchases bought from another airport.

If you need to reclear security, remove your bottle from your bag and put it into a separate tray with it's sealed bag. There won't be any issues. The worst-case scenario, the security employees would check the date of your receipt which would be inside your sealed bag.
All duty free at Changi is sealed as the security is at the gate, so no problem with that. But Frankfurt airport website says only intra-EU is acceptable https://www.frankfurt-airport.com/en...er-at-fra.html so if that is strictly the case then I wouldn't risk it. But I was more wondering if a) SQ flights always arrive "clean" or b) there is a documented exception for duty free from Singapore anywhere (like Schiphol has)
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Originally Posted by sammyg901
All duty free at Changi is sealed as the security is at the gate, so no problem with that. But Frankfurt airport website says only intra-EU is acceptable https://www.frankfurt-airport.com/en...er-at-fra.html so if that is strictly the case then I wouldn't risk it. But I was more wondering if a) SQ flights always arrive "clean" or b) there is a documented exception for duty free from Singapore anywhere (like Schiphol has)
In the past, I had no problems when transiting with a duty-free item on the itinerary IST-FRA-XXX which I need to re-clear security at all times.

To answer your questions;
a) SQ flights should arrive clean at Frankfurt Airport; however, from N/S B gates to A/Z gates, the airside shuttle does not run all the time, so you might need to clear security in case the bus doesn't run and it's likely that you might need to clear security in case of a wrong turn at some point.
b) I am sorry, I don't know.
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Originally Posted by sammyg901
All duty free at Changi is sealed as the security is at the gate, so no problem with that. But Frankfurt airport website says only intra-EU is acceptable https://www.frankfurt-airport.com/en...er-at-fra.html so if that is strictly the case then I wouldn't risk it. But I was more wondering if a) SQ flights always arrive "clean" or b) there is a documented exception for duty free from Singapore anywhere (like Schiphol has)
SIN flights arrive ‘clean’ at FRA but if FRAPORT allocate a non clean gate it becomes an ‘unclean’ flight & necessitates transfer security, so Duty free in a sealed bag with the receipt is the only certain way of avoiding problems.
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Thanks both. I found some more people saying they've transferred from India etc without a problem as long as it was bagged with the receipt, which it definitely will be + a good chance there wouldn't even be any security, so I think I'll go for it!
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Originally Posted by Dino55
Hello there,

Please how long will take a transfer from Schengen A gates to C gates at FRA? Arriving from Prague by Lufthansa (assuming a bus gate in Pier A) and connecting to an intercontinental flight to Muscat by Oman Air (as a Lufthansa partner assuming gates C13-16)?
How long will take a passport control and security check?

Thank you in advance.
Would you mind to share your final experience. We are going the similar way A to C and just want to go the best/fastest way. Seems there are very little real reports for this particular transfer. Thank you.
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This Saturday our LH flight to a Schengen country boarded from A56, only to be bussed across the tarmac to A36 where we'd go up the stairs in the aircraft.

On Sunday our LH flight back docked at B12, but we had to go down the stairs and be bussed to A-S-W.

I don't get it. Why did LH not assign A36 for the outbound and why couldn't we leave on the B12 bridge?

The flight back was already late, and the bussing caused an additional unpublished delay not posted on the status page (it lists docking time at B12) due to the buses not being there when we were ready to deplane, the bussing itself, and a queue to unload at A-S-W. Many connecting pax were not happy, especially those who had to run from A-S-W through the tunnel back to B.
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Originally Posted by mozilla
This Saturday our LH flight to a Schengen country boarded from A56, only to be bussed across the tarmac to A36 where we'd go up the stairs in the aircraft.

On Sunday our LH flight back docked at B12, but we had to go down the stairs and be bussed to A-S-W.

I don't get it. Why did LH not assign A36 for the outbound and why couldn't we leave on the B12 bridge?
I’m not here to defend FRAport/LH or explain odd things they impose on unsuspecting passengers but let me guess...

A56 to A36 is bizarre but could have been due to a last minute aircraft change.

B12 arrivals won’t have any obvious way of going landside other than via the tunnel due to the layout of the B concourse.
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A56 to A36 is bizarre but could have been due to a last minute aircraft change.
You're probably right, FlightStats does show a tail number change to the ship that operated the flight 50 minutes before boarding was due to commence. OTOH I've received gate changes in FRA less than 50 minutes before boarding. But maybe they're trying to cut down on that, or they decided against a gate change short notice due to the relatively long distance between A56 and A36.
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Originally Posted by travelalot2
Would you mind to share your final experience. We are going the similar way A to C and just want to go the best/fastest way. Seems there are very little real reports for this particular transfer. Thank you.
If you are travelling before 24 June there will be no Skyline train connecting A/Z with C and the transfer bus may not be the best option. I suggest going landside on arrival in A, walking across the terminal and clearing C security and passport control.

If the Skyline is back in operation there is a relatively new stop for C gates which is only accessible by non-Schengen passengers. There have been one or two reports in this thread by people who actually used it but I don’t seem to be able to find them. I haven’t used this stop since it opened but I expect passport control before you board the train and security after you get off.
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
If you are travelling before 24 June there will be no Skyline train connecting A/Z with C and the transfer bus may not be the best option. I suggest going landside on arrival in A, walking across the terminal and clearing C security and passport control.

If the Skyline is back in operation there is a relatively new stop for C gates which is only accessible by non-Schengen passengers. There have been one or two reports in this thread by people who actually used it but I don’t seem to be able to find them. I haven’t used this stop since it opened but I expect passport control before you board the train and security after you get off.
Thank you so much, I am going to travel when the train is supposed to be back in operation, so I will try to use this option as it seems more convenient. Will report back then. Hopefully they will let me into Z gates with C gate on the boarding pass so I can take the train to the C stop.
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we will be flying BCN to DEN with a 1 hour 20 min connection time in FRA. We are US passport and reasonably fit. Is this enough connection time? NewbyRunner has gotten us through FRA before, so we hope the magic still works.....thanks

Sorry....I forgot to mention that both flights are Lufthansa
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we will be flying BCN to DEN with a 1 hour 20 min connection time in FRA. We are US passport and reasonably fit. Is this enough connection time? NewbyRunner has gotten us through FRA before, so we hope the magic still works.....thanks

Sorry....I forgot to mention that both flights are Lufthansa
Not sure what magic you are referring to but as long as the flight from BCN is not very late you should be fine. The BCN flight is likely to arrive at an A gate or A bus gate, you need to go through passport control and go upstairs to Z concourse for your flight to DEN.
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we will be flying BCN to DEN with a 1 hour 20 min connection time in FRA. We are US passport and reasonably fit. Is this enough connection time? NewbyRunner has gotten us through FRA before, so we hope the magic still works.....thanks

Sorry....I forgot to mention that both flights are Lufthansa
If one ticket and everything is more or less on time, easy peasy.
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Last time I connected through Frankfurt from US. On first class. I had to exit the airport and walk to the first class terminal.
Is it still the same way once I get into FRA? Do I have to exit the airport?
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