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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Jun 22, 2017, 7:40 am
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Originally Posted by pjrubindc
Hi all. Thank you so much for all the work you've put into this thread. I've spent an hour looking at some of the posts in this thread. Please tell me if I have this correct: I am flying next week BOS-FRA-TXL, all on LH. My inbound flight is currently scheduled to land at a Z gate; my outbound departs from an A gate. Assuming things stay that way, am I correct that I simply clear passport control and go directly to my departing gate without going through security again, as I would expect to do at most any other airport?

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Sorry to miss this one, Peter. You are 100% correct.
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Old Jun 22, 2017, 9:23 am
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The LH guide service 75€ for upto 5pax and has the advantage of being a real LH employee who has access to the ressources to contact the gate of your next flight and ask them to wait for you My in laws once made a 25 min connection in FRA including immigration and extra US security thanks to the guide service

https://www.lufthansa.com/online/por...735816395&l=en
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Old Jun 22, 2017, 11:41 am
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The Skyline train now has a new station at C, opened yesterday.

[In German]
http://www.fnp.de/lokales/frankfurt/...art675,2680542
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Old Jun 22, 2017, 7:55 pm
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Hi all. Thank you so much for all the work you've put into this thread. I've spent an hour looking at some of the posts in this thread. Please tell me if I have this correct: I am flying next week BOS-FRA-TXL, all on LH. My inbound flight is currently scheduled to land at a Z gate; my outbound departs from an A gate. Assuming things stay that way, am I correct that I simply clear passport control and go directly to my departing gate without going through security again, as I would expect to do at most any other airport?

Thanks,
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Originally Posted by kirkwoodj
Sorry to miss this one, Peter. You are 100% correct.
Thanks. Might make sense to put this in the sticky, since it is likely a recurring question. Might also be worth spelling out which int'l inbound transfers require security re-checks and which don't.
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Old Jun 23, 2017, 9:00 pm
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
The LH guide service 75€ for upto 5pax and has the advantage of being a real LH employee who has access to the ressources to contact the gate of your next flight and ask them to wait for you My in laws once made a 25 min connection in FRA including immigration and extra US security thanks to the guide service

https://www.lufthansa.com/online/por...735816395&l=en
IME, this is money well spent, especially for people who might need a little help in general navigating a transfer, or getting from their flight to anywhere within the FRA complex.
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 7:03 am
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IME, this is money well spent, especially for people who might need a little help in general navigating a transfer, or getting from their flight to anywhere within the FRA complex.
What would be the difference between this service and the Gate to Gate service ( https://www.frankfurt-airport.com/en...e-service.html) besides cost?

I have a 45 min connection from a non-Schengen to a Schengen flight.
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 11:02 am
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MAN-FRA-KIX layover time

I'm currently looking at this MAN-FRA-KIX itinerary.
Business class, all on Lufthansa.
I expect that I will have to go through security at FRA. Will the 1h15m layover give me enough time?
Flights from MAN land at bus gates, and I have previously missed a 1h MAN-FRA-NUE connection at FRA due to unexpected security queues and a very long walk to to the departure gate.

Outbound flight
Wed 14 Mar
09:20 – 12:05
Manchester (MAN) – Frankfurt (FRA)
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Layover in Frankfurt FRA
1h 15m
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13:20 – 08:30+1
Frankfurt (FRA) – Osaka (KIX)
11h 10m
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 11:11 am
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Originally Posted by mikem004
I have previously missed a 1h MAN-FRA-NUE connection at FRA due to unexpected security queues and a very long walk to to the departure gate.
This. It all depends on how critical an on time arrival in Osaka is for you - would it matter if you get there a day later? Longer layover - lower risk of misconnect.
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by ParisMoskau
This. It all depends on how critical an on time arrival in Osaka is for you - would it matter if you get there a day later? Longer layover - lower risk of misconnect.
A day late to Osaka would not be acceptable for me.
But I understand that Business class travellers can use fast security lanes at FRA. Maybe that would reduce some of the risk.
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 2:38 pm
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A day late to Osaka would not be acceptable for me.
If you can't risk a miss, then it doesn't seem like a very good idea to book such a tight connection at FRA.
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Old Jun 25, 2017, 11:18 pm
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Had it the other way round in March (HND-FRA-HAM) with a 2h layover. Since FRA-HAM was in C, I'd use 'fast' lane (~10min that day) and from that I'd recommend flying an hour earlier ex MAN, esp. with busgates in the play.
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Old Jun 26, 2017, 3:49 am
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Thanks for the replies.
I'm not really happy with a 1h15 connection. Bus gates, the need to go through security, previous experience at FRA, only one flight per day to KIX from FRA if I miss the connection. Also, Business pax usually board an international flight ahead of the majority.
However, LH are happy to sell this connection. They must think it is viable, on a good day.
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Old Jun 26, 2017, 4:03 am
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In your situation this would be too tight for my taste. Yes, it is doable if things are running smoothly and in most cases I believe yo can make it. But what if not? Are there other ways do get to KIX.
If you really need to be in KIX on time I would take the earlier MAN flight. If not there are some later connections FRA-KIX on the same day, and from my experience LH will rebook you.
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Old Jun 26, 2017, 4:05 am
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It is also worth bearing in mind [in case of significant delay which could compromise your connection] that you might get the ad-hoc transfer arranged by LH i.e. a transfer agent awaiting as soon as you get off your MAN flight and making sure you get to the next gate on-time. Whilst I'd certainly not rely on it while booking a flight, I experienced it myself on a number of occasions and thus not unrealistic at all.

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When using the Skyline train between B and Z, do you need to go through security pre or post the train ride?
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