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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Aug 2, 2011, 12:28 am
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Originally Posted by airb330
Yes my partner is flying PHL-FRA in C on US (4pm departure, the LH flight leaves at 5...but was $1000 more), then FRA-HYD in C on LH. I think he'll just want a shower and to relax a bit. Not star gold at this time.
His PHL-FRA boarding pass on US does not give him access to a lounge in FRA, but his FRA-HYD boarding pass on LH will. Both Business lounges in Concourse B (near gates B24-28 and gates B44-48) have showers.
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Arriving on TLV-FRA at gate C16 around delayed at 805pm, have to get my connection at A19, departing shortly after 9pm.

To my surprise I find the glass doors dividing C and D open, protected by a fraport employee.

In my head forms the idea to make a run for Sky Train station at D.

I asked him if I could go to D since I have no luggage. He let me pass.

That area of D is completely empty, only cleaning crew is circling around (and I guess the reason why they opened the door)

50m behind the glass doors I see a buggy from the "new" terminal express approaching. I waive him hello, he picks me up and drives me through the really empty concourse D and drops me off at the D station of the Sky Train, non schengen side.

I take the Sky Train to BC, pass the immigration and reenter on schengen side (mind you they do not advertise outside BC/Schengen station of the Skyline that they take you to A Schengen).

I leave the train at A schengen, quickly go through security control (no pax there besides me).

Arrive at my gate at 8.19pm. No running, no sweating, no queuing ... The perfect connect at FRA. If it would be like that all the time, I would love this airport...
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Old Aug 4, 2011, 2:17 pm
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Beginners Question

I'm sure that this has been covered before, but I can only see threads relating to the FCT...

I'm flying IAD-FRA, overnight, in F. Two hours after landing I'm flying FRA-LHR in J, but on a separate booking (thanks to some "married segments" nonsense).

Can I use the First Class Lounges? Will I still be offered car transfer if boarding is from a remote stand?

Cheers.
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Old Aug 4, 2011, 2:25 pm
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Originally Posted by mamb0
Arriving on TLV-FRA at gate C16 around delayed at 805pm, have to get my connection at A19, departing shortly after 9pm.


Arrive at my gate at 8.19pm. No running, no sweating, no queuing ... The perfect connect at FRA. If it would be like that all the time, I would love this airport...
That's amazing! But I don't think the post qualifies as a suitable entry in the Beginners' Guide.
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Old Aug 4, 2011, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by James1978
I'm sure that this has been covered before, but I can only see threads relating to the FCT...

I'm flying IAD-FRA, overnight, in F. Two hours after landing I'm flying FRA-LHR in J, but on a separate booking (thanks to some "married segments" nonsense).

Can I use the First Class Lounges? Will I still be offered car transfer if boarding is from a remote stand?

Cheers.
Yes, your arriving F BP should get you into the FCL. Show your BP for the LHR flight at the lounge reception.

If your LHR flight leaves from a remote stand they should drive you to the plane from the FCL B - but not from the FCL A (which is in Schengen).

I thought LH kept on promising that LHR flights would leave from gate positions in FRA.
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Many thanks.
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Old Aug 6, 2011, 6:32 pm
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Sentom: Wait. I am arriving in F from the USA connecting to Rome in D. Everything i have read..and been told, is that I can go to the FCT upon arrival in FRA awaiting my departure to Rome. Are you saying I CANNOT go to the FCT?? I have been advised by Newbierunner that that is my best option if I land in B or a bus gate.
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Old Aug 6, 2011, 10:44 pm
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Wrong thread!!
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Wrong thread!!
OOPS! My bad.
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How bad is passport control at FRA? Ive seen nightmares at cdg and lhr, but heard ZRH takes mere seconds. I'd imagine its just as bad in fra if a 388 or 744 rolls in and dumps 500 pax or so at once, but I wanted to make sure.
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 4:27 am
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Originally Posted by dparkinson
How bad is passport control at FRA?
Depends entirely on the time of day, which passport control position (there are several), flights arriving before yours and of course what passport you hold.

...but heard ZRH takes mere seconds.
Not entirely true. Depends on where you are coming from. Longhaul arrivals have to ride Heidi's train to the main terminal so the flow of passengers is somewhat controlled before they reach passport control. Passport control for shorthaul non-Schengen (bus) arrivals can be quite chaotic. I've probably waited longer in ZRH than I've ever waited in FRA (with an EU passport arriving from non-Schengen).

BTW why do you keep on asking basically the same question in several different threads?

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Arriving from us with us passport, so that might clarify things. As for similar questions, I'm using my CO miles for a F trip to Europe, so if I'm dropping 135000 miles, I'd like the most calm and comfortable experience. MUC seemed like a no brainer with the FCL passport control, but it gets the old AC, so now I'm between FRA and ZRH as both receive LH and LX's new first class planes.
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 5:03 am
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Originally Posted by dparkinson
...I'm using my CO miles for a F trip to Europe, so if I'm dropping 135000 miles...
You are lucky. A First Class award using M&M miles costs a lot more!

MUC seemed like a no brainer with the FCL passport control, but it gets the old AC, so now I'm between FRA and ZRH as both receive LH and LX's new first class planes.
Unless you fly the routes served by LX A330 or LH A380 there's no guarantee you will get the new First Class.

You may be interested to know that I've never seen worse passport control delays in European airports than I've seen (and experienced) in some US airports.
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Ive got global entry for the us side so I've never waited more than 60 seconds I remember heathrow being upwards of 30 mins last time I went through, so with FRA being almost as big, I'm trying to avoid that, if it ever gets that bad. Lx only flies 333s from ny to zrh or gva, so im safe there, and im assuming by december, theres a pretty good shot jfk fra will be new 744s. And though our mileage rewards may be cheaper, at least you can get an a380 f seat, even as the highest UA/CO tier, I can only get economy.
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Old Aug 8, 2011, 6:41 am
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Originally Posted by dparkinson
Ive got global entry for the us side so I've never waited more than 60 seconds
You may be interested to read how US welcomes visitors from other countries.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...rd-doable.html

...at least you can get an a380 f seat, even as the highest UA/CO tier, I can only get economy.
There's no restriction on Business awards AFAIK and you can get *A awards on the A380 in F as long as you are prepared to wait until the day before travel.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...l#post16873452
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