Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Jul 20, 2011, 4:48 pm
#706
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Hi. New to the forum as well. To all you well traveled folks, need some FRA airport advice:
Will be traveling first time on LH (from London) and will have a layover in FRA for about 2.5 hrs before taking a non-Schengen flight to the US. Traveling Business, and with a dog (also first time with an animal and hopefully LAST!). Hence a little stressed.
I'll want to go outside for a bit after the LHR flight, to stretch and relieve the dog, before the longer flight. For the flight into USA, I suppose I have to go somewhere different from the terminal where I arrived. Is this all walkable by foot?
Lounges- Traveling LH Business (both legs). Member of CO's frequent flyer prog (non-Elite- just joined and still accruing) and BA's One World Silver. What are my best lounge options?
Will be traveling first time on LH (from London) and will have a layover in FRA for about 2.5 hrs before taking a non-Schengen flight to the US. Traveling Business, and with a dog (also first time with an animal and hopefully LAST!). Hence a little stressed.
I'll want to go outside for a bit after the LHR flight, to stretch and relieve the dog, before the longer flight. For the flight into USA, I suppose I have to go somewhere different from the terminal where I arrived. Is this all walkable by foot?
Lounges- Traveling LH Business (both legs). Member of CO's frequent flyer prog (non-Elite- just joined and still accruing) and BA's One World Silver. What are my best lounge options?
You'll then have to go through passport control and security (priority lane for Business/First) for your US flight. Most US flights depart from A, but some depart from C or even B. The lounge to use is the Tower Lounge (if A gate), or a Business Lounge closest to your departure gate. There are two Business Lounges each in C and B.
Jul 21, 2011, 8:27 am
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Jul 23, 2011, 4:10 pm
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Just realized something- will the LH lounges at LHR and FRA even allow me in with a dog? It will be in its carrier of course. I wonder what happens to passengers flying with pets at the airport. I don't think I've ever seen animals at LHR. I think I read somewhere that they take the pets from you till its time to board. Hope that's not the case. I'd rather hang around outside till its time to board.
Jul 24, 2011, 3:56 am
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Just realized something- will the LH lounges at LHR and FRA even allow me in with a dog? It will be in its carrier of course. I wonder what happens to passengers flying with pets at the airport. I don't think I've ever seen animals at LHR. I think I read somewhere that they take the pets from you till its time to board. Hope that's not the case. I'd rather hang around outside till its time to board.
LH's travel with animals page suggests contacting Lufthansa Airport Ticket Teams for further information. BTW there is no LH lounge in LHR. The lounge you'll have access to is a Star Alliance lounge in T1.
Jul 25, 2011, 10:58 pm
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1Hr 20min connection?
Looking at a tight connection for award travel next spring. We would be coming in on a regional jet (OU - Croatian Airlines) connecting in FRA to LH490 to SEA. Ordinarily I wouldn't book such a tight connection, but it's the only way to make it back to SEA without an additional stop, so I'm tempted. The regional flight would be scheduled to arrive FRA at 08:35, and the LH 490 departure is scheduled for 9:55. I know that's tight. My question is, is it just plain unrealistic?
OTOH, it's early in the day, so if worse comes to worst and we miss the TATL, there should be multiple departures headed for US hubs going out every couple of hours which would give us a good shot at making it back to SEA that day (although admittedly much later). It'll be one *A award ticket so they would (eventually) take care of us. And if we made it but our bags misconnect, it wouldn't be the end of the world if they followed a day later since we'll be headed for home.
I'm unfamiliar with FRA (been through there once but don't recall details). Should I expect Teutonic efficiency, or chaos? Odds on making a 1H 20M connection there?
OTOH, it's early in the day, so if worse comes to worst and we miss the TATL, there should be multiple departures headed for US hubs going out every couple of hours which would give us a good shot at making it back to SEA that day (although admittedly much later). It'll be one *A award ticket so they would (eventually) take care of us. And if we made it but our bags misconnect, it wouldn't be the end of the world if they followed a day later since we'll be headed for home.
I'm unfamiliar with FRA (been through there once but don't recall details). Should I expect Teutonic efficiency, or chaos? Odds on making a 1H 20M connection there?
Jul 26, 2011, 1:33 am
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80 min in FRA is fine, no worries.
Arrived via the B intl bus gates yesterday, the place was a zoo... bus after bus came in and kept piling on passengers. They have a few red coat 'service' employees who are hell bent on herding the crowd like cattle.
The nice thing is that it seems they are building a immigration and security checkpoint right at the bus stop which is about to be ready. So in the very near future you can walk straight ahead and not take the escalator up to the B concourse.
Arrived via the B intl bus gates yesterday, the place was a zoo... bus after bus came in and kept piling on passengers. They have a few red coat 'service' employees who are hell bent on herding the crowd like cattle.
The nice thing is that it seems they are building a immigration and security checkpoint right at the bus stop which is about to be ready. So in the very near future you can walk straight ahead and not take the escalator up to the B concourse.
Jul 26, 2011, 7:13 am
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80 min in FRA is fine, no worries.
Arrived via the B intl bus gates yesterday, the place was a zoo... bus after bus came in and kept piling on passengers. They have a few red coat 'service' employees who are hell bent on herding the crowd like cattle.
The nice thing is that it seems they are building a immigration and security checkpoint right at the bus stop which is about to be ready. So in the very near future you can walk straight ahead and not take the escalator up to the B concourse.
Arrived via the B intl bus gates yesterday, the place was a zoo... bus after bus came in and kept piling on passengers. They have a few red coat 'service' employees who are hell bent on herding the crowd like cattle.
The nice thing is that it seems they are building a immigration and security checkpoint right at the bus stop which is about to be ready. So in the very near future you can walk straight ahead and not take the escalator up to the B concourse.
I believe we get 'bussed' in from our manchester flight as it doesn't normally go to a stand, so when you mention
building a immigration and security checkpoint right at the bus stop which is about to be ready
Is this likely to benefit us, or have I got the totally wrong end of the stick?
Jul 26, 2011, 7:42 am
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I am flying in from Manchester and flying out to Rome with a connection of 50 minutes I believe we get 'bussed' in from our manchester flight as it doesn't normally go to a stand, so when you mention then my ears prick up.
Is this likely to benefit us, or have I got the totally wrong end of the stick?
I believe we get 'bussed' in from our manchester flight as it doesn't normally go to a stand, so when you mention then my ears prick up.Is this likely to benefit us, or have I got the totally wrong end of the stick?
I wouldn't personally book a 50 min connection MAN-FRA-FCO, but if security is quiet, it's doable. Just get your running shoes on for the Tunnel of Hate.
Jul 26, 2011, 7:53 am
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I usually avoid the tunnel of horror and turn left after immigration/customs in B walk out to the B check-in area (ignoring the transfer security on the right and the B security on the left when you get out the glass doors and turn left to the A concourse and its easy short security lines. Yesterday I made it from the bus regurgitation point to gate A17 in 15-20 min. Wheels down of LH 443 was 8.34 and I was at A17 at 9.20.
Jul 26, 2011, 8:06 am
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If it saves us going through the main transfer security, then quite possibly. Of course, what would be nice is if UK pax just had to go through immigration...
I wouldn't personally book a 50 min connection MAN-FRA-FCO, but if security is quiet, it's doable. Just get your running shoes on for the Tunnel of Hate.
I wouldn't personally book a 50 min connection MAN-FRA-FCO, but if security is quiet, it's doable. Just get your running shoes on for the Tunnel of Hate.
As we have never flown via FRA before some sort of idea of how to get from Plane 1 to Plane 2 in the quickest time would be most appreciated.
Is this the best/easiest/quickest way
I usually avoid the tunnel of horror and turn left after immigration/customs in B walk out to the B check-in area (ignoring the transfer security on the right and the B security on the left when you get out the glass doors and turn left to the A concourse and its easy short security lines. Yesterday I made it from the bus regurgitation point to gate A17 in 15-20 min. Wheels down of LH 443 was 8.34 and I was at A17 at 9.20.
All help gratefully received as I'm really starting to panic about this now and its really spoiling my holiday anticipation.
Jul 26, 2011, 8:26 am
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http://www.lufthansa.com/us/en/Lufth...Family-Service
I always do what Oliver mentioned and walk landside from A to B... Much quicker! But be prepared for some quick walking / running if your incoming flight is late!
Jul 26, 2011, 8:46 am
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You could book the Lufthansa Guide Service:
http://www.lufthansa.com/us/en/Lufth...Family-Service
I always do what Oliver mentioned and walk landside from A to B... Much quicker! But be prepared for some quick walking / running if your incoming flight is late!
http://www.lufthansa.com/us/en/Lufth...Family-Service
I always do what Oliver mentioned and walk landside from A to B... Much quicker! But be prepared for some quick walking / running if your incoming flight is late!
Jul 26, 2011, 8:59 am
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As we have never flown via FRA before some sort of idea of how to get from Plane 1 to Plane 2 in the quickest time would be most appreciated.
oliver2002's route sounds efficient and I have followed it myself once or twice but I'm not sure if I'd recommend it to people who don't know their way around FRA.
Is is possible to get any assistance once at FRA to get us from Plane 1 to Plane 2?
Once the new immigration and security checkpoint that oliver2002 mentions is in operation we can hope that (1) pax ex-UK may be able to proceed to a connecting flight without having to go through security and (2) after immigration it might be possible to enter the tunnel of horror which is not far from the bus gates as you will see on this map.