Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Nov 23, 2022, 2:36 pm
#7141
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Forced by "following the signs" – BEG was originally scheduled to depart from a B gate (as indicated on my boarding pass), it then switched to C (or vice-versa, I can't remember now). Possibly my "mistake" as you also implicitly suggest but it's FRA after all (I've even started to go via ZAG with OU and their far from perfect on-time record merely to avoid the "stress" of that mess airport...).
I once arrived in B from MAN and had a connecting flight to OTP also from B. I had to clear transfer security and walk to the departure gate of my connecting flight which happened to be the same aircraft on which I arrived from MAN 45 minutes earlier obviously parked at the same gate!
P.S. I reported this previously but since it was a long time ago I hope it’s ok to post it again.
Nov 24, 2022, 12:40 am
#7142
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These days they always unload clean arrivals into the B departures area. It's even signposted at the end of the (some?) jetbridges.
Nov 24, 2022, 2:59 am
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But arriving into the B departures area has limited benefits unless there’s a regular bus service to the secure area of Z and passport control into B Schengen departures for a walk through the tunnel to A departures.
Nov 24, 2022, 3:15 am
#7144
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And that’s obviously not the case in FRA. Unless you fly on from B, going back upstairs and then joining the queues for immigration and transfer security is next…
Nov 24, 2022, 4:54 am
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Indeed but they could offer a choice, B connections or exit & transfer to A Z & C but then that would just help pax …..
Nov 25, 2022, 8:41 pm
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Hi. I understand that AEUW is a bus gate near A7-A10. Does it mean that it parks there so a short bus ride or just that it lets people off near those gates (so bus ride might be long)? Thank you in advance for your response!
Nov 25, 2022, 11:42 pm
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A7-A9 gates on Frankfurt Airport map
Nov 26, 2022, 1:02 am
#7149
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AEUW is the name used for bus gates which are actually gates A7-A9 used for clean non-Schengen arrivals. Arriving at AEUW does not mean a short bus ride but it is convenient for passengers connecting from Z or A gates as they don’t need to clear transfer security.
A7-A9 gates on Frankfurt Airport map
A7-A9 gates on Frankfurt Airport map
Nov 27, 2022, 11:27 pm
#7152
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So it looks like I will not be at a bus gate (but I suppose that can still change). If I am going from B22 to Z22, will I be able to take the bus? I took one the other day when I arrived and had no additional security/immigration. Is it the same when traveling the other way? Also, is there any Senator Lounge on the way? Thanks!
Nov 28, 2022, 6:28 am
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Supposing that you get offloaded into secure area (which you should if you are coming from EDI if I understand you right) then yes.
The fact that the train is inoperative right now is a blessing in disguise as it means that the Z-B secure shuttle is all but guaranteed to be running. This is not always the case when the train is on - then you might have to leave the secure area to take the it...
Your best bet as to lounges is to find one close to your departure area. The lounge in Z concourse is near the main "shopping center" zone towards gate Z50. It's about 10 minutes walk to Z22.
The fact that the train is inoperative right now is a blessing in disguise as it means that the Z-B secure shuttle is all but guaranteed to be running. This is not always the case when the train is on - then you might have to leave the secure area to take the it...
Your best bet as to lounges is to find one close to your departure area. The lounge in Z concourse is near the main "shopping center" zone towards gate Z50. It's about 10 minutes walk to Z22.
Nov 28, 2022, 11:27 pm
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Supposing that you get offloaded into secure area (which you should if you are coming from EDI if I understand you right) then yes.
The fact that the train is inoperative right now is a blessing in disguise as it means that the Z-B secure shuttle is all but guaranteed to be running. This is not always the case when the train is on - then you might have to leave the secure area to take the it...
Your best bet as to lounges is to find one close to your departure area. The lounge in Z concourse is near the main "shopping center" zone towards gate Z50. It's about 10 minutes walk to Z22.
The fact that the train is inoperative right now is a blessing in disguise as it means that the Z-B secure shuttle is all but guaranteed to be running. This is not always the case when the train is on - then you might have to leave the secure area to take the it...
Your best bet as to lounges is to find one close to your departure area. The lounge in Z concourse is near the main "shopping center" zone towards gate Z50. It's about 10 minutes walk to Z22.
Dec 2, 2022, 12:00 pm
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Is 65 minutes enough time, LH to Eurowings at FRA?
Hi folks,
I am looking at two itineraries that connect onto the the same final flight: 1. is via YYZ and then FRA with 4 hours in FRA and then on to TFS: this is the safest connection choice for obvious reasons, but it means a 5 a.m. flight for me at my origin (not YYZ) and 8 hours at YYZ before heading on to FRA; option 2 is via YVR to FRA with 65 minutes to make the final flight to TFS. It is a nice connection if everything works out as I get an 11 a.m. departure from home, a shorter layover at YVR, and a long night TATL vs the YYZ flight, which is conducive to sleep (I will be in business class). But, I worry about the short connection time at FRA.
I connected through FRA twice in September and didn't have any issues but a few years back got stuck in a passport control line exiting to the non-Schengen zone and missed a TATL flight. We were late coming in due to a weather delay, but really should have been ok to get through before the doors closed.
I will be interested to see people's thoughts on this, though I can say at the outset I am leaning toward the less pleasant route through YYZ. Thanks!
I am looking at two itineraries that connect onto the the same final flight: 1. is via YYZ and then FRA with 4 hours in FRA and then on to TFS: this is the safest connection choice for obvious reasons, but it means a 5 a.m. flight for me at my origin (not YYZ) and 8 hours at YYZ before heading on to FRA; option 2 is via YVR to FRA with 65 minutes to make the final flight to TFS. It is a nice connection if everything works out as I get an 11 a.m. departure from home, a shorter layover at YVR, and a long night TATL vs the YYZ flight, which is conducive to sleep (I will be in business class). But, I worry about the short connection time at FRA.
I connected through FRA twice in September and didn't have any issues but a few years back got stuck in a passport control line exiting to the non-Schengen zone and missed a TATL flight. We were late coming in due to a weather delay, but really should have been ok to get through before the doors closed.
I will be interested to see people's thoughts on this, though I can say at the outset I am leaning toward the less pleasant route through YYZ. Thanks!