Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA]

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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
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 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Mar 24, 22, 6:45 am
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Originally Posted by Beecharmer View Post
Hoping someone can advise on a suitable connection time. Looking at flying in from a non-Schengen European country onwards to a non-Schengen long-haul. Looking at the guidance on page 1 and checking on Frankfurt arrivals/departures, it looks like the European flight usually arrives at Pier B and the long haul usually departs at Pier Z. I don't think a passport check is needed but assume there will be some security to navigate. I have the option of a 70 min connecting time or a 6 hour connecting time. Which would you go for?
It helps if you tell us which countries you are flying from/to via FRA, because some non-Schengen countries are considered clean and secure bus connections from B to Z MIGHT be possible. However destinations such as the US require additional security check which may delay things. If LH sells a through ticket you can try if you are prepared to be put on a later flight
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Old Mar 25, 22, 7:41 am
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Looking for advise on connection between the two terminals at FRA. I'm arriving in Terminal 1 and leaving from 1 (same plane, flying Y on SQ25). I have about 1hr.45min and wanted to see if it'll be feasible to use a Priority pass lounge in Terminal 2 (for showers, etc.). What's the quickest way from Terminal 1 to 2 and back and is there security airside? Thanks.
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Old Mar 25, 22, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by zerorain View Post
Looking for advise on connection between the two terminals at FRA. I'm arriving in Terminal 1 and leaving from 1 (same plane, flying Y on SQ25). I have about 1hr.45min and wanted to see if it'll be feasible to use a Priority pass lounge in Terminal 2 (for showers, etc.). What's the quickest way from Terminal 1 to 2 and back and is there security airside? Thanks.
You do not have enough time to do this.

SQ25 will arrive and depart in 1B. You would need to exit security (presuming they treated you as a clean arrival), take the Skyline train to Terminal 2, go to the lounge, use the train to get back and then go through security. 1:45 is just not enough time for all of that. Folks barely have enough time to get a shower in the nearby Senator B lounge.
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Old Mar 25, 22, 8:01 am
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Will stay at the Sheraton and then fly out of Terminal 1 (?) with AA to DFW at 9:20am.
is there any expert route or is it
Skytrain 2 to 1 and them through security
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Old Mar 25, 22, 8:30 am
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Yes, best option would be the Senator Lounge in B - if you have *G status.

Note that you should rush straight to the shower area to sign up your name on the shower list...and you can relax a bit inside the lounge until you are called - or go back to check...

Originally Posted by supine View Post
You do not have enough time to do this.

SQ25 will arrive and depart in 1B. You would need to exit security (presuming they treated you as a clean arrival), take the Skyline train to Terminal 2, go to the lounge, use the train to get back and then go through security. 1:45 is just not enough time for all of that. Folks barely have enough time to get a shower in the nearby Senator B lounge.
Originally Posted by zerorain View Post
Looking for advise on connection between the two terminals at FRA. I'm arriving in Terminal 1 and leaving from 1 (same plane, flying Y on SQ25). I have about 1hr.45min and wanted to see if it'll be feasible to use a Priority pass lounge in Terminal 2 (for showers, etc.). What's the quickest way from Terminal 1 to 2 and back and is there security airside? Thanks.
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Old Mar 25, 22, 8:37 am
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Originally Posted by blitzen View Post
Will stay at the Sheraton and then fly out of Terminal 1 (?) with AA to DFW at 9:20am.
is there any expert route or is it
Skytrain 2 to 1 and them through security
Other way around. Sheraton is at terminal 1, AA operates out of terminal 2.

You can use either the Skyline train or the bus. The train is probably easier to reach using the covered pedestrian bridge to the terminal rather than going down to ground level for the bus.
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Originally Posted by supine View Post
You do not have enough time to do this.

SQ25 will arrive and depart in 1B. You would need to exit security (presuming they treated you as a clean arrival), take the Skyline train to Terminal 2, go to the lounge, use the train to get back and then go through security. 1:45 is just not enough time for all of that. Folks barely have enough time to get a shower in the nearby Senator B lounge.
Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy View Post
Yes, best option would be the Senator Lounge in B - if you have *G status.

Note that you should rush straight to the shower area to sign up your name on the shower list...and you can relax a bit inside the lounge until you are called - or go back to check...
IIRC Maple Leaf lounge also had showers. Might be less of a wait than SEN.

Originally Posted by blitzen View Post
Will stay at the Sheraton and then fly out of Terminal 1 (?) with AA to DFW at 9:20am.
is there any expert route or is it
Skytrain 2 to 1 and them through security
AA is T2-E. Sheraton is close to entrance of T1. You should take the train from T1 (hall B) to T2-E. The entrance should be close to Starbucks in the middle (B) section IIRC. Follow signs for D,E.
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Old Mar 25, 22, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by zerorain View Post
Looking for advise on connection between the two terminals at FRA. I'm arriving in Terminal 1 and leaving from 1 (same plane, flying Y on SQ25). I have about 1hr.45min and wanted to see if it'll be feasible to use a Priority pass lounge in Terminal 2 (for showers, etc.). What's the quickest way from Terminal 1 to 2 and back and is there security airside? Thanks.
there are public showers opposite the Air Canada maple leaf lounge, I believe. I havent used them and dont know if they are operating, but hopefully they exist. Should be easy to access without any security queues.

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Old Mar 25, 22, 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by EJJBHX View Post
there are public showers opposite the Air Canada maple leaf lounge, I believe. I havent used them and dont know if they are operating, but hopefully they exist. Should be easy to access without any security queues.
Good call. The showers in T2 Priority Pass lounges were actually not included in the lounge entry IIRC. So if you end up paying either way, might as well go to ones close by.
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Old Mar 27, 22, 6:47 pm
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Contemplating a SQ to TK connection JFK-FRA-IST on separate (one award/one paid) tickets in May. Preferred flights involve a 60 minute connection. Will not have checked bags. Am I crazy to even contemplate this? Spot check of today's flights looks like both SQ and TK use B gates.

Next reasonably priced flight is to SAW and that's a 3 1/2 hour connection--the ideal LH flight is almost 3x the price. Lounge options are pretty limited (PP), as I am not *A elite and Amex appears useless with a TK boarding pass at FRA. But, if I must wait it out for the later flight, would appreciate ideas for restaurants inside security to kill an hour. The PP Luxx lounge does not seem worth going landside for (right?).
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Old Mar 27, 22, 6:54 pm
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Contemplating a SQ to TK connection JFK-FRA-IST on separate (one award/one paid) tickets in May. Preferred flights involve a 60 minute connection. Will not have checked bags. Am I crazy to even contemplate this? Spot check of today's flights looks like both SQ and TK use B gates.

Next reasonably priced flight is to SAW and that's a 3 1/2 hour connection--the ideal LH flight is almost 3x the price. Lounge options are pretty limited (PP), as I am not *A elite and Amex appears useless with a TK boarding pass at FRA. But, if I must wait it out for the later flight, would appreciate ideas for restaurants inside security to kill an hour. The PP Luxx lounge does not seem worth going landside for (right?).
Only you know what your risk tolerance is. Personally I would never book this on separate tickets, and I suspect most on FT would say the same.
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Only you know what your risk tolerance is. Personally I would never book this on separate tickets, and I suspect most on FT would say the same.
+ 1

Flights from USA are deemed clean arrivals at FRA & are not liable to security for connections, however most B connections do require security, not sure if they exempt the SQ flight, they could do by opening & Staffing doors, maybe someone who has actually done the SQ flight could confirm.
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Old Mar 28, 22, 2:23 am
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I would not do it without a backup ticket on the next flight.
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I would never in my life do separate tickets on two long-haul flights without at least 3-4 hours in between, ideally an overnight.
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while you may have an hour till the departure, they will start boarding well before that, I am not sure what the policy on closing boarding is but I suspect it will be at least 10 minutes before departure so your connection time is now only 50 minutes

On an unprotected connection that would be too tight for me. I am worried about a 50 minute protected connection I have next week
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