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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Mar 13, 2022, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by iplaybass
I am looking at booking STL-FRA-CDG, but my choices are 1:40 and 5:40 (i can't believe they're showing a 0:40 option.) Last time I transited FRA in October 2021, it was a forever walk to passport control, and I think it took an hour with my wife. We had 3:30, so got to finish waking up in the J lounge (good coffee!) This would be a little more compressed at 1:40, and definitely no lounge time. Is this a reasonable layover?
1:40
is very doable

I'd be tempted with the 40 minute knowning they would probably put me on the 1:40 if things on the 40 minute went wrong

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Old Mar 13, 2022, 3:22 pm
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Hi All

Hopefully we will be going on a twice-delayed river cruise from Amsterdam to Budapest at the end of May.
Our return flights have us leaving BUD on LH1335, Sunday, 6/12 at 9:30AM, arriving FRA at 11:15.
Departing FRA on UA 998 at 12:20PM, 1:05 after arriving.
My reading of the Wiki seems to indicate we are going to be arriving at the A gates and departing
from the Z gates, same terminal, different floor, with a security/passport check between gates.
It seems a bit of a tight connection to me.
Helping could be:
- We will be in Business so (hopefully) off the inbound flight quickly.
- We're both Star Alliance *G which the Wiki indicates has a priority lane.
- We both have dual citizenship: US & Ireland. Would Schengen or Non-Schengen lane be faster?

Thoughts/experience if this is do-able are appreciated.

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Old Mar 13, 2022, 4:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Ken-NJ
Hi All

Hopefully we will be going on a twice-delayed river cruise from Amsterdam to Budapest at the end of May.
Our return flights have us leaving BUD on LH1335, Sunday, 6/12 at 9:30AM, arriving FRA at 11:15.
Departing FRA on UA 998 at 12:20PM, 1:05 after arriving.
My reading of the Wiki seems to indicate we are going to be arriving at the A gates and departing
from the Z gates, same terminal, different floor, with a security/passport check between gates.
It seems a bit of a tight connection to me.
Helping could be:
- We will be in Business so (hopefully) off the inbound flight quickly.
- We're both Star Alliance *G which the Wiki indicates has a priority lane.
- We both have dual citizenship: US & Ireland. Would Schengen or Non-Schengen lane be faster?

Thoughts/experience if this us do-able are appreciated.

Ken
It will take about 20 minutes. Provided the inbound is on time you will be fine

Ireland is not schengen but there is no schengen line.

Ireland is a member of the EU. I would be tempted to use the EU line
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Old Mar 13, 2022, 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by scottishpoet
It will take about 20 minutes. Provided the inbound is on time you will be fine

Can ireland use schengen? If so that will possibly be slightly faster
As LH1335 is operated by an Embraer E-190, it usually (as it did today, for example) gets a remote stand, and you are bussed to the terminal. So it will take more than 20 minutes
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Old Mar 13, 2022, 4:33 pm
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Originally Posted by gusd
As LH1335 is operated by an Embraer E-190, it usually (as it did today, for example) gets a remote stand, and you are bussed to the terminal. So it will take more than 20 minutes
ok, it may take 30 minutes
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Old Mar 14, 2022, 9:49 am
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Flying in from Oslo via Munich to Frankfurt tomorrow.
Two questions
Is there a security screening between A and B? I'm an EU/EEC citizen. To my understanding the FCL in A is closed and I don't think FCT will be open due to the strike
Is 1 hour enough connection time if LH let me rebook to the 8pm from Munich.? It lands 2100 and my connecting flight to JNB leaves at 2200.
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Old Mar 14, 2022, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by nordboa
Flying in from Oslo via Munich to Frankfurt tomorrow.
Two questions
Is there a security screening between A and B? I'm an EU/EEC citizen. To my understanding the FCL in A is closed and I don't think FCT will be open due to the strike
Is 1 hour enough connection time if LH let me rebook to the 8pm from Munich.? It lands 2100 and my connecting flight to JNB leaves at 2200.
Are you flying OSL-MUC-FRA-JNB tomorrow? According to LH flight status LH123 MUC-FRA is expected to arrive at A17 tomorrow and LH572 FRA-JNB departs from Z69. There is no security check between A and Z but Z69 is the furthest gate in Z concourse and is quite a trek from A > Z passport control.
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Old Mar 14, 2022, 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Are you flying OSL-MUC-FRA-JNB tomorrow? According to LH flight status LH123 MUC-FRA is expected to arrive at A17 tomorrow and LH572 FRA-JNB departs from Z69. There is no security check between A and Z but Z69 is the furthest gate in Z concourse and is quite a trek from A > Z passport control.
Yes. Flying tomorrow. Lufthansa on Twitter confirmed that they accept a 1 hour connection and they also sell it on their website. If the FCT is closed I'd rather spend a few hours extra in Munich than in a Senator Lounge in FRA. They'd probpably hold the connecting flight for a few minutes as well. Or do they pick you up if it's a short connection?
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Old Mar 14, 2022, 1:21 pm
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Originally Posted by nordboa
Yes. Flying tomorrow. Lufthansa on Twitter confirmed that they accept a 1 hour connection and they also sell it on their website. If the FCT is closed I'd rather spend a few hours extra in Munich than in a Senator Lounge in FRA. They'd probpably hold the connecting flight for a few minutes as well. Or do they pick you up if it's a short connection?
Since your flight from MUC is a gate arrival fairly close to passport control I don’t think they will pick you up. Assuming you will be sitting near the front of the cabin and there are only a couple of flights departing from Z gates that time of the evening, you just have to be prepared to walk about 1km from gate to gate.
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Old Mar 15, 2022, 11:14 am
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Is 1 hour AC->LH domestic flight doable?
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Old Mar 15, 2022, 12:26 pm
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Tough. You have to pass both passport and security and probably move B>A
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Originally Posted by cas_de
Thanks - and sorry, I should have probably provided more information.

I will travel MUC-FRA-ORD on Monday. Will most likely arrive at an A gate and LH430 will depart from Z (right now it shows Z25; I know that this can change) and I remembered that the Panorama Lounge is open (and hopefully less crowded than the central lounge). It might be a viable alternative to kill some time before making my way to Z25. The reason I asked the question is, the distance between A26 and Z25 is short, just 1 level up, Passport control and doc check. Say my inbound flight from MUC arrives at A13 and Z25 sticks for LH430 and I make the trip to the Panorama Lounge I would be really annoyed if the direct link A -> Z is closed and I have to schlepp back to the central passport control, go upstairs just to walk back to Z25.

Thanks for the link to the interactive map. If I pick A26 to Z25 the suggested route is to go back to A14, head upstairs and go back: est. 17 minutes. No thanks.

I am not worried about lounge access. Even if some LD will make a fuss I can claim entry based on the inbound flight.
Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
I think the passport control near Z25 is oneway (non-Schengen to Schengen) if it’s open. There is a Schengen to non-Schengen passport control accessible by an elevator between A15 and A17 but it’s only open at certain times as far as I know.
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Passport control was closed last week heading from A25 to Z. It was also closed going from Z25 to A yesterday. So I can't tell if it is operating just one-way or in both ways since it was closed.
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Originally Posted by cas_de
Feedback:
Passport control was closed last week heading from A25 to Z. It was also closed going from Z25 to A yesterday. So I can't tell if it is operating just one-way or in both ways since it was closed.
It was a two-way check point a couple of years ago but IIRC that changed when the A+ gates opened. I used it from Z to A regularly in 2018 and 2019.
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Old Mar 16, 2022, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by cas_de
Feedback:
Passport control was closed last week heading from A25 to Z. It was also closed going from Z25 to A yesterday. So I can't tell if it is operating just one-way or in both ways since it was closed.
Originally Posted by curt
It was a two-way check point a couple of years ago but IIRC that changed when the A+ gates opened. I used it from Z to A regularly in 2018 and 2019.
According to the interactive map of FRA on Lufthansa app, passport control near Z25 is shown non-Shchengen > Schengen (map on L) and passport control between Z15 and Z17 as Schengen > non-Schengen (map on R). This is how I remember them. By the way A+ (as they were called) opened in 2012!

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Old Mar 16, 2022, 12:54 pm
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Apologies if this is not the correct thread, but what is the status of the J lounge by A26? The map posted above says it is temporarily closed, whereas the LH website indicates that it is open. I'm more inclined to trust the LH website than a third-party map, but just wanted to be sure, as the most recent post about it in the lounge reopening/status thread was from five months ago.

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