Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Aug 26, 2021, 8:15 am
#6301
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It’s really 50/50. On a normal day I suspect the outbound is doable, and there is likely to be a later flight in the day. On the return I’m more skeptical, as any delay on the inbound is going to put pressure on getting to Z gates. And there probably isn’t another AUS flight that day.
There is only one FRA-AUS direct per day, so if we miss the return connection, hopefully we could get put on a different route with UA - there are options that would go to EWR, DEN and a couple others and then on to AUS. Absolute worst case we get a night in Frankfurt to explore I guess.
Aug 27, 2021, 12:05 am
#6302
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LH just cancelled the resumption of the AUS for the rest of the year. I seriously doubt AUS will come back in early 2022.
Aug 29, 2021, 1:08 am
#6303
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 18
Connection time
Just spent 50 minutes in passport line going Z to A gate. Do they help if you are within 30 minutes. Way back Salzburg to US via Frankfurt
worries me
worries me
Aug 29, 2021, 1:33 am
#6304
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: LON, BOM
Programs: BAEC Gold, LH SEN, Vistara Platinum
Posts: 177
I will have a similar connection in about 2 weeks. I'm wondering if I should book a longer connection by default rather than LH play pinball with a missed connection.
Aug 29, 2021, 10:14 am
#6305
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 18
It was about 8 am. Passport agent did say that was worst time of day
Aug 29, 2021, 10:45 am
#6306
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Edited to add: Reading seanp7’s post below reminded me that there is a separate passport control queue for F and C passengers on departure but not on arrival.
Last edited by NewbieRunner; Aug 29, 2021 at 2:00 pm
Aug 29, 2021, 11:14 am
#6307
Join Date: Aug 2005
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In the Economy line, at one point two agents announced EU passports could just come to the front. This caused confusion as Americans in line began to get frustrated and said they were boarding soon etc, but the agents processed the EU passports first to get those folks moving into the automated passport control gates.
The actual (manual, non-EU) passport control line moved well.
Aug 29, 2021, 1:14 pm
#6308
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Great to hear and thank you all! I'll update this when I travel next
Aug 30, 2021, 5:07 pm
#6309
Join Date: Jan 2005
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So I have separate tickets VCE-FRA // FRA-LAX
VCE flight arrives at 8am at 1 ASO. Have about a 2 hour connection. What's the fastest way to get to the First Class Terminal?
Thanks
VCE flight arrives at 8am at 1 ASO. Have about a 2 hour connection. What's the fastest way to get to the First Class Terminal?
Thanks
Aug 30, 2021, 8:05 pm
#6310
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 6
I am relocating from the US to Italy for work in a couple of weeks and will be transiting through FRA (ORD --> FRA --> LIN) on Lufthansa business class. I needed at least a four hour layover to permit my two large dogs who are traveling as excess baggage to clear customs in the Lufthansa pet terminal, but will also have my cat with me as a hand luggage item.Given the long layover, it would be optimal to find an enclosed and quiet place where we could securely let the cat out of her travel bag for some water, a meal, and a bathroom break (which will require opening up a portable litter box for this purpose). I assume that the two human travelers will also want a shower, a drink, and a capable LH agent who can help confirm that our dogs arrived and are transiting safely. What's the best, lowest stress for all parties way to accomplish this? I've poked around a bit and seen a few options, including:
- LH senator or business lounge, letting cat briefly out in the private shower room (obviously she would stay in her travel case in any public area, but I'm not sure this would be inappropriate)
- springing for FRA VIP service and a private lounge (pricey, but flexible and avoids lugging our poor traumatized cat through the FRA labyrinth, but probably doesn't get us any extra coordination with LH pet terminal folks since it's not LH affiliated)
- going to a pet relief area and camping out there for an hour or two (this will mostly be dogs, which won't work for a cat, and if not indoors and extremely well secured would be unsafe. least comfortable option for human passengers)
Aug 31, 2021, 12:31 am
#6311
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That’s an easy one, you will arrive at A follow the exit signs, once outside turn left & you can see the building, follow the walkway past the taxis waiting to join the rank, cross the road & use the ground floor entrance & take elevator up. It’s 5 minutes from the A exit area.
Aug 31, 2021, 12:59 am
#6312
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I am relocating from the US to Italy for work in a couple of weeks and will be transiting through FRA (ORD --> FRA --> LIN) on Lufthansa business class. I needed at least a four hour layover to permit my two large dogs who are traveling as excess baggage to clear customs in the Lufthansa pet terminal, but will also have my cat with me as a hand luggage item.Given the long layover, it would be optimal to find an enclosed and quiet place where we could securely let the cat out of her travel bag for some water, a meal, and a bathroom break (which will require opening up a portable litter box for this purpose). I assume that the two human travelers will also want a shower, a drink, and a capable LH agent who can help confirm that our dogs arrived and are transiting safely. What's the best, lowest stress for all parties way to accomplish this? I've poked around a bit and seen a few options, including:
- LH senator or business lounge, letting cat briefly out in the private shower room (obviously she would stay in her travel case in any public area, but I'm not sure this would be inappropriate)
- springing for FRA VIP service and a private lounge (pricey, but flexible and avoids lugging our poor traumatized cat through the FRA labyrinth, but probably doesn't get us any extra coordination with LH pet terminal folks since it's not LH affiliated)
- going to a pet relief area and camping out there for an hour or two (this will mostly be dogs, which won't work for a cat, and if not indoors and extremely well secured would be unsafe. least comfortable option for human passengers)
Aug 31, 2021, 3:49 am
#6313
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I am relocating from the US to Italy for work in a couple of weeks and will be transiting through FRA (ORD --> FRA --> LIN) on Lufthansa business class. I needed at least a four hour layover to permit my two large dogs who are traveling as excess baggage to clear customs in the Lufthansa pet terminal, but will also have my cat with me as a hand luggage item.Given the long layover, it would be optimal to find an enclosed and quiet place where we could securely let the cat out of her travel bag for some water, a meal, and a bathroom break (which will require opening up a portable litter box for this purpose). I assume that the two human travelers will also want a shower, a drink, and a capable LH agent who can help confirm that our dogs arrived and are transiting safely. What's the best, lowest stress for all parties way to accomplish this? I've poked around a bit and seen a few options, including:
- LH senator or business lounge, letting cat briefly out in the private shower room (obviously she would stay in her travel case in any public area, but I'm not sure this would be inappropriate)
- springing for FRA VIP service and a private lounge (pricey, but flexible and avoids lugging our poor traumatized cat through the FRA labyrinth, but probably doesn't get us any extra coordination with LH pet terminal folks since it's not LH affiliated)
- going to a pet relief area and camping out there for an hour or two (this will mostly be dogs, which won't work for a cat, and if not indoors and extremely well secured would be unsafe. least comfortable option for human passengers)
Take the itinerary with the shortest layover possible (LH 431 followed by LH 272). You will have to do nothing at all in Frankfurt, the dogs will get transferred to the animal hotel during the layover and taken care of. They will also be just transferred to toe connecting flight without being processed by customs. That is your responsibility as soon as you arrive in Milan.
If you called LH and have received this advice from an agent, they were wrong and confused things.
For the cat, option1 (the lounge) is your only option. Everything else will require you to go landside with the cat, that means you 'll need different paperwork (German instead of Italian) etc. DON'T DO THAT. Animals need to stay in their carriers in the lounges. Letting it out in the securely locked bathroom is pretty much the only option you have.
Apart from that FRA doesn't have post-security pet relief areas at all, no cat would ever use one of these for its intended purpose.
edit:
If you already booked flights with the long layover (booking 280 instead of 272 will give you 5 hours) and cannot or do not want to change the itinerary:
- short-check the dogs to Frankfurt (you'd need to make this clear to the LH agent in ORD when checking in!), pass immigration/customs and collect them there (again, oversize baggage belt near where regular bags come out). Get the animal EU paperwork for Germany, not for Italy.
- Get a day room at the Steigenberger Airport hotel (EUR 79 plus maybe a 20 EUR pet fee), way better than paying for the private lounge) and take the shuttle bus there (5 mins). LH might let you leave the crates somewhere, ask the staff at the baggage office /check-in - check-in staff will also tell you when to be back for the LIN flight. One of you takes the dogs for a nice long walk (off-leash is fine
) in the Stadtwald directly behind the hotel , the other tends to the cat in the room. There's other hotels offering day rooms, but the Steigenberger has the most frequent shuttle and the forest starts right behind the building.- take the shuttle bus back to the terminal to recheck the dogs in time for the connecting flight. As they should already be tagged and processed, it's fine to turn up there about 70 minutes prior to departure.All you need is to put them back in the crates and wait for them to be loaded on a cart at the check-in area before proceeding through security.
Last edited by bhomburg; Aug 31, 2021 at 7:14 am
Aug 31, 2021, 2:23 pm
#6314
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That’s an easy one, you will arrive at A follow the exit signs, once outside turn left & you can see the building, follow the walkway past the taxis waiting to join the rank, cross the road & use the ground floor entrance & take elevator up. It’s 5 minutes from the A exit area.
Sep 3, 2021, 9:12 am
#6315
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Colorado
Programs: United Mileage Plus, Hilton HHonors
Posts: 24
Advice needed. We will be traveling in Biz class on LH on a UA reward ticket: DEN-FRA-MAD with a 9 hour connection(transit) in FRA this weekend. We are US a passport holders. Lowly Silver status on UA. Suggestions or options in FRA? LH lounge? Option to buy a day pass somewhere else? Transit side hotel? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
