Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Jun 4, 2021, 6:01 am
#6151
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Thank you. In June, this is via the bus between Z11 <> B58? On my return, flying IST-FRA on TK and connecting to UA, will I arrive into the airside area of B or into an arrivals/landside area where I have to reclear security for an international (Z) departure?
Thank you.
If you are not an-EU citizen do not attempt to use the Z->A->B route even if you might be admissible to enter Germany based on your country of nationality/residency.
115 minutes is highly enough to use the Skyline path from Z to B and I would not consider this as a short connection. You would even have a minimum of 30 minutes to waste in the B concourse.
115 minutes is highly enough to use the Skyline path from Z to B and I would not consider this as a short connection. You would even have a minimum of 30 minutes to waste in the B concourse.
Jun 4, 2021, 6:06 am
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Thank you. In June, this is via the bus between Z11 <> B58? On my return, flying IST-FRA on TK and connecting to UA, will I arrive into the airside area of B or into an arrivals/landside area where I have to reclear security for an international (Z) departure?
Thank you.
Thank you.
oliver2002 mentioned that a B<->Z transfer is possible without issues using the SkyTrain.
Also as Turkey is not considered as a safe arrival, you would need to reclear security at FRA in any circumstance for your onward flight to the USA.
Jun 4, 2021, 11:37 am
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The B<->Z shuttle is not running due to the pandemic, both ways.
oliver2002 mentioned that a B<->Z transfer is possible without issues using the SkyTrain.
Also as Turkey is not considered as a safe arrival, you would need to reclear security at FRA in any circumstance for your onward flight to the USA.
oliver2002 mentioned that a B<->Z transfer is possible without issues using the SkyTrain.
Also as Turkey is not considered as a safe arrival, you would need to reclear security at FRA in any circumstance for your onward flight to the USA.
Jun 5, 2021, 8:51 am
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What can I expect on my transit in FRA next Saturday June 12?
arrive from UA 46 IAH-FRA at 12:20pm in business and depart on LH 570 FRA-WDH at 9:50 pm in business. I have a 9 hour layover. I know I cannot leave the airport and I will spend the time in the LH lounges. I may spend half the time in both.
What terminal will I arrive at and what terminal will I depart from? How will I move between the different terminals? I have never transmitted in FRA before.
arrive from UA 46 IAH-FRA at 12:20pm in business and depart on LH 570 FRA-WDH at 9:50 pm in business. I have a 9 hour layover. I know I cannot leave the airport and I will spend the time in the LH lounges. I may spend half the time in both.
What terminal will I arrive at and what terminal will I depart from? How will I move between the different terminals? I have never transmitted in FRA before.
Jun 5, 2021, 9:11 am
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What can I expect on my transit in FRA next Saturday June 12?
arrive from UA 46 IAH-FRA at 12:20pm in business and depart on LH 570 FRA-WDH at 9:50 pm in business. I have a 9 hour layover. I know I cannot leave the airport and I will spend the time in the LH lounges. I may spend half the time in both.
What terminal will I arrive at and what terminal will I depart from? How will I move between the different terminals? I have never transmitted in FRA before.
arrive from UA 46 IAH-FRA at 12:20pm in business and depart on LH 570 FRA-WDH at 9:50 pm in business. I have a 9 hour layover. I know I cannot leave the airport and I will spend the time in the LH lounges. I may spend half the time in both.
What terminal will I arrive at and what terminal will I depart from? How will I move between the different terminals? I have never transmitted in FRA before.
Your Lufthansa flight would depart from Terminal 1B or Terminal 1Z. There is no way to learn this in advance as the gates are randomly assigned at FRA.
If you need to connect between Terminal 1Z & 1B, just follow the signs if you are not familiar with the airport. You would need to take the SkyLine ( air train ) between those concourses and the signs should lead you to the appropriate concourses.
Jun 8, 2021, 11:24 am
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Flying SFO->FRA on UA, connecting on same ticket to LH FRA->SOF. We are fully vaccinated but not admissible to Germany under current rules (USA citizens, tourism). It appears the LH SOF flights customarily depart the Z gates (Bulgaria is non-Schengen) and the UA flight customarily arrives at one of the A20-ish gates. We need to stay in the transit area for this to work, but my understanding is that the Frankfurt A gates serve Schengen departures. Can non-Schengen arrivals to A transit to Z without passport control?
Jun 8, 2021, 11:28 am
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Flying SFO->FRA on UA, connecting on same ticket to LH FRA->SOF. We are fully vaccinated but not admissible to Germany under current rules (USA citizens, tourism). It appears the LH SOF flights customarily depart the Z gates (Bulgaria is non-Schengen) and the UA flight customarily arrives at one of the A20-ish gates. We need to stay in the transit area for this to work, but my understanding is that the Frankfurt A gates serve Schengen departures. Can non-Schengen arrivals to A transit to Z without passport control?
As A and Z gates share the same parking position, the name of the parking stand is named under the letter "A" and you would be released to the upper level which is the Z level.
Your connection would be a Z->Z or a Z->B connection.
One exception is that "ANS" is the name of the bus arrivals position of non-Schengen arrivals at Z but still, you would be able to go to the Z departures area without clearing passport control.
Jun 8, 2021, 11:33 am
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Flying SFO->FRA on UA, connecting on same ticket to LH FRA->SOF. We are fully vaccinated but not admissible to Germany under current rules (USA citizens, tourism). It appears the LH SOF flights customarily depart the Z gates (Bulgaria is non-Schengen) and the UA flight customarily arrives at one of the A20-ish gates. We need to stay in the transit area for this to work, but my understanding is that the Frankfurt A gates serve Schengen departures. Can non-Schengen arrivals to A transit to Z without passport control?
Jun 8, 2021, 11:43 am
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Your UA flight would arrive at a Z gate.
As A and Z gates share the same parking position, the name of the parking stand is named under the letter "A" and you would be released to the upper level which is the Z level.
Your connection would be a Z->Z or a Z->B connection.
As A and Z gates share the same parking position, the name of the parking stand is named under the letter "A" and you would be released to the upper level which is the Z level.
Your connection would be a Z->Z or a Z->B connection.
Jul 2, 2021, 11:06 am
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B Non Schengen -> A Schengen
Hey, new here.
I’m connecting at FRA from B22A to A40. Based on the couple of original posts in this thread, it seems like it should be possible to use the AB tunnel to only clear security once.
However, in using the Lufthansa interactive maps I couldn’t find routings that didn’t go through security 2 or 3 times. The default routing uses the train with 2 security checkpoints, while going to B13 (for the tunnel) requires a number of security checkpoints before you get there.
Would appreciate if anyone can share a routing that only has one security check (multiple passport controls are fine as we’ll use the EU gates).
thanks!
I’m connecting at FRA from B22A to A40. Based on the couple of original posts in this thread, it seems like it should be possible to use the AB tunnel to only clear security once.
However, in using the Lufthansa interactive maps I couldn’t find routings that didn’t go through security 2 or 3 times. The default routing uses the train with 2 security checkpoints, while going to B13 (for the tunnel) requires a number of security checkpoints before you get there.
Would appreciate if anyone can share a routing that only has one security check (multiple passport controls are fine as we’ll use the EU gates).
thanks!
Jul 2, 2021, 11:18 am
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Hey, new here.
I’m connecting at FRA from B22A to A40. Based on the couple of original posts in this thread, it seems like it should be possible to use the AB tunnel to only clear security once.
However, in using the Lufthansa interactive maps I couldn’t find routings that didn’t go through security 2 or 3 times. The default routing uses the train with 2 security checkpoints, while going to B13 (for the tunnel) requires a number of security checkpoints before you get there.
Would appreciate if anyone can share a routing that only has one security check (multiple passport controls are fine as we’ll use the EU gates).
thanks!
I’m connecting at FRA from B22A to A40. Based on the couple of original posts in this thread, it seems like it should be possible to use the AB tunnel to only clear security once.
However, in using the Lufthansa interactive maps I couldn’t find routings that didn’t go through security 2 or 3 times. The default routing uses the train with 2 security checkpoints, while going to B13 (for the tunnel) requires a number of security checkpoints before you get there.
Would appreciate if anyone can share a routing that only has one security check (multiple passport controls are fine as we’ll use the EU gates).
thanks!
If you're arriving to B22 and transferring to A40, there is no way that you could skip security.
The Skyline route does not involve double security, you just board the train, go through security and passport control once you arrive at A.
If you really want to use the tunnel, follow the signs for baggage claim, clear passport control, exit from B baggage claim, go upstairs then clear security at B gates and use the tunnel.
However, if you are not familiar with FRA, it's highly advised that you follow the signposted routes.
Jul 2, 2021, 11:30 am
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Hi julianschiavo and welcome to FlyerTalk!
If you're arriving to B22 and transferring to A40, there is no way that you could skip security.
The Skyline route does not involve double security, you just board the train, go through security and passport control once you arrive at A.
If you really want to use the tunnel, follow the signs for baggage claim, clear passport control, exit from B baggage claim, go upstairs then clear security at B gates and use the tunnel.
However, if you are not familiar with FRA, it's highly advised that you follow the signposted routes.
If you're arriving to B22 and transferring to A40, there is no way that you could skip security.
The Skyline route does not involve double security, you just board the train, go through security and passport control once you arrive at A.
If you really want to use the tunnel, follow the signs for baggage claim, clear passport control, exit from B baggage claim, go upstairs then clear security at B gates and use the tunnel.
However, if you are not familiar with FRA, it's highly advised that you follow the signposted routes.
The Lufthansa map routes through 2 security checkpoints (when selecting B22->A40 directions); is there a different way to what’s suggested in the app that will skip one of those checkpoints? (Tried to upload a screenshot of the 2 checkpoints, but alas, I couldn’t as I’m new)
Also, do you happen to know how long the connection should take? The app says an hour which seems long to me, but I haven’t gone through FRA in recent times.
thanks again
Jul 2, 2021, 1:01 pm
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Connections in FRA continue to be horrible, arrived in Z non Schengen & had to depart in B non Schengen, the distances you have to walk are ludicrous, winding your way around Z to take the train to B & this in an almost empty airport, FRAPORT just organise things to put people off transiting there 
Jul 2, 2021, 2:21 pm
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Also, do you happen to know how long the connection should take? The app says an hour which seems long to me, but I haven’t gone through FRA in recent times.
thanks again
thanks again
Jul 2, 2021, 2:43 pm
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Thanks for your help ISTFlyer! Just to clarify, I know I can’t skip security, it’s more about avoiding a double security checkpoint.
The Lufthansa map routes through 2 security checkpoints (when selecting B22->A40 directions); is there a different way to what’s suggested in the app that will skip one of those checkpoints? (Tried to upload a screenshot of the 2 checkpoints, but alas, I couldn’t as I’m new)
Also, do you happen to know how long the connection should take? The app says an hour which seems long to me, but I haven’t gone through FRA in recent times.
thanks again
The Lufthansa map routes through 2 security checkpoints (when selecting B22->A40 directions); is there a different way to what’s suggested in the app that will skip one of those checkpoints? (Tried to upload a screenshot of the 2 checkpoints, but alas, I couldn’t as I’m new)
Also, do you happen to know how long the connection should take? The app says an hour which seems long to me, but I haven’t gone through FRA in recent times.
thanks again
Without any wait, the connection could be doable within 10-15 minutes, however, you would need to add the wait times for security and passport control. As you are an EU citizen passport control shouldn't take long and but I can't comment on security.
