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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Mar 24, 2019, 6:48 am
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Originally Posted by TWA Guy
Flying IAD-FRA-GVA on LH with 1 hour at FRA. Arrive at 0805 and depart at 0905. Looks like arrive at Z56 and depart A52 as of now, fingers cross this doesn’t change. Just do passport control right? Where is most convenient one? Thanks!
If arriving at Z50+ the only feasible passport control is close to gate Z13. Just follow the signs for A gates. If arriving at Z20s there should be signs pointing towards passport control by gate Z25 if it is open.

Beware that both the arrival and departure gates can and do change from day to day. LH1214 to GVA usually departs from a bus gate (e.g. A52) but departed from B05 today which means a walk through the transfer tunnel after passport control.
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Old Mar 24, 2019, 7:21 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
If arriving at Z50+ the only feasible passport control is close to gate Z13. Just follow the signs for A gates. If arriving at Z20s there should be signs pointing towards passport control by gate Z25 if it is open.

Beware that both the arrival and departure gates can and do change from day to day. LH1214 to GVA usually departs from a bus gate (e.g. A52) but departed from B05 today which means a walk through the transfer tunnel after passport control.
thanks! Definitely keeping a close eye on those arrival and departure gates
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Old Mar 24, 2019, 4:32 pm
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
What you get is an email from LH about a schedule change and an offer to rebook free of charge within 14 days, e.g.
Got the email and they said it only applies to connections becoming illegal. I was surprised and very unhappy too, but could not convince them to change my first flight.
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Old Mar 24, 2019, 9:26 pm
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Got the email and they said it only applies to connections becoming illegal. I was surprised and very unhappy too, but could not convince them to change my first flight.
Well, that’s the same email I receive & in English, it’s inviting me to rebook if I NEED TO, further, there is no mention of subject to the underlying fare rules or conditions like failing to meet MCT.

I realise your email will probably be in German
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Old Mar 25, 2019, 12:36 am
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Well, that’s the same email I receive & in English, it’s inviting me to rebook if I NEED TO, further, there is no mention of subject to the underlying fare rules or conditions like failing to meet MCT.

I realise your email will probably be in German
Yes, the message was in German and said I should call within 14 days, if I need to make changes. But when I called, they said I cannot change it for free, as the connection is still legal (P fare).

Going through FRA to a really important meeting “legal” is not enough for me.
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Old Mar 25, 2019, 1:49 am
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Yes, the message was in German and said I should call within 14 days, if I need to make changes. But when I called, they said I cannot change it for free, as the connection is still legal (P fare).

Going through FRA to a really important meeting “legal” is not enough for me.
The English version is saying it’s entirely my choice & I don’t see how they can put that in writing & not comply.... they are wrong IMO & you are correct
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Old Mar 25, 2019, 2:26 pm
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
I’d still contact the cruise company to see if they will change the flights in that case.
+1.

Because of the need to go through passport control and possibly transfer security, and that you can't get a later flight and still make the cruise, it sounds to me like the cruise company needs to know about the implications, and if LH won't help you, the cruise company should.
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Old Mar 26, 2019, 9:56 pm
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Flying LAX to FRA then connecting to Tap to LIS

I will be flying LAX to FRA then connecting to Tap to LIS. My first time.. I have about 2 hours. What can I expect? Lounges available and time?
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Old Mar 26, 2019, 11:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Srklaw7
I will be flying LAX to FRA then connecting to Tap to LIS. My first time.. I have about 2 hours. What can I expect? Lounges available and time?
carrier? travel class? status?
lacking basic info
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Old Mar 26, 2019, 11:56 pm
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I will be flying LAX to FRA then connecting to Tap to LIS. My first time.. I have about 2 hours. What can I expect? Lounges available and time?
Ought to be easy, since your arriving clean, so just passport control, go to lounge nearest your departure gate for TAP.
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Old Mar 27, 2019, 2:38 am
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I will be flying LAX to FRA then connecting to Tap to LIS. My first time.. I have about 2 hours. What can I expect? Lounges available and time?
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Ought to be easy, since your arriving clean, so just passport control, go to lounge nearest your departure gate for TAP.
If *G the Senator Lounge in A concourse is between the duty free shops and gate A50 but possibly furthest away from the departure gate for LIS. If *G or flying in Business there are also a Business Lounge near gate A13, and two more lounges near gate A25.
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Old Mar 27, 2019, 3:48 am
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The business lounge near A13 is normally the fullest. The Panorama lounge (opposite of A26) and the 2nd business lounge (one floor above A26) are normally calmer and also provide a better view on to the tarmac.
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Old Mar 27, 2019, 4:03 am
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The Panorama lounge would also be my recommendation: great view and very different atmosphere.
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Old Mar 27, 2019, 8:13 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
If arriving at Z50+ the only feasible passport control is close to gate Z13. Just follow the signs for A gates. If arriving at Z20s there should be signs pointing towards passport control by gate Z25 if it is open.

Beware that both the arrival and departure gates can and do change from day to day. LH1214 to GVA usually departs from a bus gate (e.g. A52) but departed from B05 today which means a walk through the transfer tunnel after passport control.
Worked like a charm, thanks! Arrived Z52 and connected to A69 with ease, and IAD-FRA arrived 35 minutes early. Easiest connection I've ever had at FRA and got in a bunch of steps :-)
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Old Mar 27, 2019, 3:38 pm
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Worked like a charm, thanks! Arrived Z52 and connected to A69 with ease, and IAD-FRA arrived 35 minutes early. Easiest connection I've ever had at FRA and got in a bunch of steps :-)
Thanks for reporting back. It’s good to hear you had an easy connection.
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