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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old May 17, 2018, 9:01 am
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No Tanqueray in the Z SEN lounge.
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Old May 17, 2018, 9:24 am
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Originally Posted by hugolover
No Tanqueray in the Z SEN lounge.
Oh, the horror.
Does that increase or decrease the transit time in Z?
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Old May 22, 2018, 1:27 am
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Oh, the horror.
Does that increase or decrease the transit time in Z?
Further to my crisis message Im happy to inform this maybe a temporary glitch. For June they will have a selection of five different Gins as part of a summer promotion.
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Old May 22, 2018, 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by hugolover


Further to my crisis message Im happy to inform this maybe a temporary glitch. For June they will have a selection of five different Gins as part of a summer promotion.
Knowing LH, that means someone else is paying for the Gin 😁
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Old May 22, 2018, 4:32 pm
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FRA connection info needed

Hello

I’m planning a last minute trip to London using miles. On my return I’m traveling from London Heathrow to Nyc in business class. I have a two hour connection in Frankfurt. Is that enough time? Does anyone know what the process will be to make this connection?

i was hoping to go non stop from LHR to NYC but this was the best I could find considering its last minute. I’m grateful for any help you can provide.

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Old May 22, 2018, 4:53 pm
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Originally Posted by NickyEWR
Hello

Im planning a last minute trip to London using miles. On my return Im traveling from London Heathrow to Nyc in business class. I have a two hour connection in Frankfurt. Is that enough time? Does anyone know what the process will be to make this connection?

i was hoping to go non stop from LHR to NYC but this was the best I could find considering its last minute. Im grateful for any help you can provide.
Two hours generally should be OK. Can you post the times/flight numbers and we can give you a better idea. You might keep checking as UA has about five flights a day from LHR to EWR.
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Old May 22, 2018, 5:35 pm
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Originally Posted by NickyEWR
Hello

Im planning a last minute trip to London using miles. On my return Im traveling from London Heathrow to Nyc in business class. I have a two hour connection in Frankfurt. Is that enough time? Does anyone know what the process will be to make this connection?

i was hoping to go non stop from LHR to NYC but this was the best I could find considering its last minute. Im grateful for any help you can provide.
The process depends on where your flight from LHR arrives. As Ted has already said it helps to know the flight numbers. Many morning flights from LHR arrive at AEUW which is a bus gate at the bottom of A/Z concourse. From AEUW you don't have to go through passport control or security and can go straight up to Z departures used by most flights to the US. Two hours should be more than enough for the connection.

If your flight from LHR arrives at a B gate or any bus gate other than AEUW you will have to go through transfer security.

You can check the arrival gates of LHR-FRA flights on Lufthansa's flight status page.

P.S. I have just checked yesterday and today's flights and none of them seems to be using AEUW. Not sure what's going on but if not arriving at AEUW you will have to clear transfer security.
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Thanks for the quick replies. I’m on Lh 925 from LHR and LH 402 to Newark.

I paid 52,000 Miles each for two business class seats. UA wants 155k Miles per seat.
Still looking for last minute BA awards (hopefully)opening up.

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Old May 22, 2018, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by NickyEWR
Thanks for the quick replies. Im on Lh 925 from LHR and LH 402 to Newark.

I paid 52,000 Miles each for two business class seats. UA wants 155k Miles per seat.
Still looking for last minute BA awards opening ( hopefully) up.
Keep moving and you should be Ok. Best case you get to the business lounge in Z in time to have a few minutes.

Backup plan would be the LH at 1700 to JFK, hopefully they would be able to protect you in business there.
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Ordinarily when I fly US-NBO (Z to B) I have to leave airside, take Skyline, and reclear security, but today there was a bus from Z11 to B59 or something! Is this a permanent change? I hate losing all my water, especially when the lounges have no taps to refill.
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Old May 25, 2018, 2:13 am
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Originally Posted by symphonicman
Ordinarily when I fly US-NBO (Z to B) I have to leave airside, take Skyline, and reclear security, but today there was a bus from Z11 to B59 or something! Is this a permanent change? I hate losing all my water, especially when the lounges have no taps to refill.
Interesting. Did you have to clear security when you arrived in B? I understand they use B63 (bus gate) when Skyline is out of action but the only other reason for taking passengers from Z to B by bus may be to avoid transfer security.
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I am flying in August 2018 on one ticket:
UA 932 IAD - FRA Arr 1210
LH 760 FRA - DEL Dep 1340

It seems that UA 932 usually arrives at a bus gate (AEUW) and LH 760 departs from C gates. If I understand correctly, I will have to take the Skytrain and reclear security prior to entering the C gates. Assuming things are on-time, is this enough time to make this connection? Is there any Gold Track security line at the security checkpoint (I am *G with UA)? I've read the security lines can get quite long at FRA from what I've read in this thread and elsewhere. Thanks for the help
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Old May 26, 2018, 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by smxflyer
I am flying in August 2018 on one ticket:
UA 932 IAD - FRA Arr 1210
LH 760 FRA - DEL Dep 1340

It seems that UA 932 usually arrives at a bus gate (AEUW) and LH 760 departs from C gates. If I understand correctly, I will have to take the Skytrain and reclear security prior to entering the C gates. Assuming things are on-time, is this enough time to make this connection? Is there any Gold Track security line at the security checkpoint (I am *G with UA)? I've read the security lines can get quite long at FRA from what I've read in this thread and elsewhere. Thanks for the help
AEUW is good news for anyone connecting to flights leaving from A or Z gates but not for B or C. Unfortunately there is no way that I know of which allows anyone connecting to a flight leaving from C to get to their gate without clearing security. The new Skyline platform for C has shorten the time it takes to get to C from A/Z.

It's a long time since I departed from a C gate and cannot tell what security is like but they usually have separate priority lanes for First, Business and *G passengers from Economy passengers. 90 mins should be enough for this connection but FRA also has fast lanes for passengers with a very tight connection.
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Interesting. Did you have to clear security when you arrived in B? I understand they use B63 (bus gate) when Skyline is out of action but the only other reason for taking passengers from Z to B by bus may be to avoid transfer security.
I did not have to clear securityremained sterile/airside.
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Originally Posted by symphonicman
I did not have to clear securityremained sterile/airside.
Interesting. So they must be using a bus gate in B as a secure non-Schengen (arrival) gate. I hope FRAport/LH will do more to avoid/reduce unnecessary transfer security.
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