Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
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DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Aug 23, 2009, 5:35 am
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I'll merge this thread with the FRA beginners guide. You'll find more information how to navigate your way through FRA and which lounge to choose.
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Aug 23, 2009, 9:00 am
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Flying via FRA to Denver next week and was wondering if the Denver flight went from the A or B gates? I will have about 3 hours at the airport and would like to visit the new tower lounge which I believe is in the A area. If it goes form B can I access the lounge in the A area?
I wanted to visit the Tower Lounge when I was connecting from non-Schengen (UK) to Schengen (Germany) and had about 4 hours to spare. Instead of the usual bus gate my flight arrived at a lower C gate so I got on the SkyLine train to A. Coming off the SkyLine train there was security check and I told them I wanted to visit the lounge by A65. After checking with a supervisor(?) they let me through. They didn't ask where I was flying to but I obviously came from non-Schengen and was staying in non-Schengen to visit the Tower Lounge. During the day when there are US bound flights they seem to be a little fussy about who they let into the non-Schengen A pier.
If you are arriving from Schengen you can go up to the non-Schengen A pier by an elevator close to A25 and through passport control, or if you are coming from non-Schengen you can take the SkyLine train from the B/C stop and go to A. If the Denver flight is departing from an A gate there's no problem, if it's departing form B or C security may or may not let you into A pier. If they don't let you through you can always go back on the SkyLine train to B/C.
The Tower Lounge has more interesting views than other lounges and has a better selection of food than the Business lounges.
Aug 23, 2009, 10:11 am
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Thanks for the information.
If it departs from the C concourse I will probably use the Senator Lounge there, as it sounds quite good.
Otherwise may try to get to trhe Tower lounge.
If it departs from the C concourse I will probably use the Senator Lounge there, as it sounds quite good.
Otherwise may try to get to trhe Tower lounge.
Aug 25, 2009, 11:03 pm
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Lax-Fra-Bud- Customs
My understanding is that passengers are processed in Frankfurt for connecting flights to Budapest ( formerly it was transit ), if this is correct how efficient is Frankfurt with their customs processing? my Lufthansa flight arrives at FRA 1530 & leaves for BUD at 1710.
Lufthansa is the carrier for both flights.
Lufthansa is the carrier for both flights.
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Aug 25, 2009, 11:21 pm
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My understanding is that passengers are processed in Frankfurt for connecting flights to Budapest ( formerly it was transit ), if this is correct how efficient is Frankfurt with their customs processing? my Lufthansa flight arrives at FRA 1530 & leaves for BUD at 1710.
Lufthansa is the carrier for both flights.
Lufthansa is the carrier for both flights.
Aug 25, 2009, 11:55 pm
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When connecting from a non-Schengen country to a Schengen country, customs only check (if at all!) carry-on baggage as checked-in baggage goes through customs at the final destination. You'll have to go through immigration at FRA which takes longer than customs but compared with some countries it's a breeze. 1 hr 40 mins should be more than enough.
Aug 26, 2009, 12:17 am
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When connecting from a non-Schengen country to a Schengen country, customs only check (if at all!) carry-on baggage as checked-in baggage goes through customs at the final destination. You'll have to go through immigration at FRA which takes longer than customs but compared with some countries it's a breeze. 1 hr 40 mins should be more than enough.
Aug 26, 2009, 12:29 am
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I am an idiot, I meant immigration not customs.Last time I went to Hungary (2004) the immigration check was done in Budapest & the connecting city FRA was just a transit change - no immigration check there, apparently this has changed - you actually are required to pass through immigration at FRA & there will be no immigration check at BUD.
Sep 4, 2009, 8:34 pm
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Going from PHL-FRA to CPH, on LH do I go through immigration in FRA or just security between arrival and departure gates? I'm not conversant with the political words like "schengen" and who's part of it I'm just a tourist.
Obviously with tight connection times I would prefer to do customs and immigration only at the end of my flight in CPH. However being forewarned is second best
Last year when I transited FRA using UAL on my way to GVE it was breeze (also had 3 hours to spend in the business lounge)
Obviously with tight connection times I would prefer to do customs and immigration only at the end of my flight in CPH. However being forewarned is second best
Last year when I transited FRA using UAL on my way to GVE it was breeze (also had 3 hours to spend in the business lounge)
Sep 5, 2009, 1:09 am
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Since GVA (you peobably meant GVA, Switzerland, rather than GVE - Gordonsville, Va.) was not in the Schengen area last year you probably didn't go through immigration at FRA, but going through immigration shouldn't add very much to the time it takes to get to your departure gate.
Information ahout the Schengen Area.
Sep 5, 2009, 8:04 am
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Since CPH (or Denmark) is in the Schengen zone, FRA-CPH flights are treated as 'domestic' flights. You go through immigration at FRA but it's a breeze if you hold a US passport or a passport from one of the countries which do not require a visa to enter the Schengen area. It's not like entering the US for non-US passport holders.
Since GVA (you peobably meant GVA, Switzerland, rather than GVE - Gordonsville, Va.) was not in the Schengen area last year you probably didn't go through immigration at FRA, but going through immigration shouldn't add very much to the time it takes to get to your departure gate.
Information ahout the Schengen Area.
Since GVA (you peobably meant GVA, Switzerland, rather than GVE - Gordonsville, Va.) was not in the Schengen area last year you probably didn't go through immigration at FRA, but going through immigration shouldn't add very much to the time it takes to get to your departure gate.
Information ahout the Schengen Area.
You go through immigration at FRA but it's a breeze
And, now I know that the word Schengen is the name of a city (where a treaty was signed) and not some german word with an English meaning. Of course I can never keep up with the member states. Do the airport signs direct you by using the word Schengen and non-Schengen (meaning you need to know who is or isn't a member) or can I expect gate assignment boards to suffice? Remember on a tight connection I can't afford to make a mistake and end up outside of the fastest path.
Sep 5, 2009, 8:24 am
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Do the airport signs direct you by using the word Schengen and non-Schengen (meaning you need to know who is or isn't a member) or can I expect gate assignment boards to suffice? Remember on a tight connection I can't afford to make a mistake and end up outside of the fastest path.
Just remember one thing: 'Follow the signs to your departure gate'. The signs will take you through the appropriate route (in your case through immigration as you will be entering Germany and the Schengen area) and you won't see the word 'Schengen' anywhere. What you do see at immigration are separate counters for EU and non-EU passport holders. If you hold an EU passport you can join whichever line that's shortest. If you hold a non-EU passport you have to join one of the non-EU lines.
I was once in an EU line and a young couple from one of the newer EU countries took ages to get through immigration it would have been quicker to join one of the non-EU lines.
P.S. Immigration/passport control counters are actually marked "EU/EWR/CH citizens" or "All passports". So strictly speaking the former is for holders of passports of EU and European Economic Area (Europäischer Wirtschaftsraum) countries and Switzerland. Anyone can use the latter.
Last edited by NewbieRunner; Sep 6, 2009 at 10:40 pm Reason: added P.S.
Sep 7, 2009, 3:46 am
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Airtrain
When coming from C and connecting to A the airtrain is an option.
I used it to get to from C Non-Schengen to A Non-Schengen and was quite lucky with the lines infront the sec check at A.
There is a passport control to the right side of the escalators which are leading up to the non-schengen airtrain's carriage stop at B/C. If I pass through there can I then access the schengen carriages?
I used it to get to from C Non-Schengen to A Non-Schengen and was quite lucky with the lines infront the sec check at A.
There is a passport control to the right side of the escalators which are leading up to the non-schengen airtrain's carriage stop at B/C. If I pass through there can I then access the schengen carriages?
Sep 21, 2009, 11:05 am
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I am looking for some advise on a connection which was booked for me by Aeroplan.
We are returning on a Saturday from VCE to FRA on LH4085, connecting to AC877, FRA to YYZ. The connection time is 45 minutes. We are travelling in J.
The connection seems a bit tight but, not knowing FRA, it may be fine if we don't have to change terminals or go through security.
Thanks for your informed thoughts!
We are returning on a Saturday from VCE to FRA on LH4085, connecting to AC877, FRA to YYZ. The connection time is 45 minutes. We are travelling in J.
The connection seems a bit tight but, not knowing FRA, it may be fine if we don't have to change terminals or go through security.
Thanks for your informed thoughts!