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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Jul 15, 2017, 10:53 am
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I reckon you'd be quicker going remaining in T1 and going landside there. Yes you would have to go through security again on your way back to airside, but T1 to T2 can be a long trek airside dependimg on which gate your NCE flight arrives at.
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Old Jul 15, 2017, 1:22 pm
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Originally Posted by AlienInTheFatherland
I reckon you'd be quicker going remaining in T1 and going landside there. Yes you would have to go through security again on your way back to airside, but T1 to T2 can be a long trek airside dependimg on which gate your NCE flight arrives at.
Thank you!! Would I need to also clear customs and Immigration if I go landside in fra ?
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Old Jul 15, 2017, 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by sunil
Thank you!! Would I need to also clear customs and Immigration if I go landside in fra ?
You don't go through customs or immigration in FRA before visiting the Luxx Lounge since you are arriving from a Schengen country.

You have to go through passport control whether visiting any lounge or not since you are leaving for a non-Schengen destination. You will also have to clear security whether you go to one of the lounges in T2 or the Luxx Lounge.
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Old Jul 16, 2017, 1:37 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Welcome to FlyerTalk, MAAflyer!

You will go through immigration/passport control and security in FRA. Your residence permit for Sweden should let you into Germany and Denmark but when you arrive in CPH there will be no passport check.

Whether you arrive in B or C, the best option is to take the Skyline train to A/Z. If arriving in B follow the signs for A,C,Z,D,E to the right of passport control booths in the transfer area. If arriving in C there is a new stop for the Skyline train which opened a few weeks ago.
http://www.fraport.com/content/frapo...course-c0.html

Once you arrive in A/Z you go through transfer security, go down two levels and go through passport control. Depending on the length of the queue 85 minutes may be a little tight for this connection but if you miss your flight they will put you on the next available flight to CPH.
Thanks a lot for your info. I guess I won't make it to my connecting flight from what you say. Anyway, I'll try my best.
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Old Jul 16, 2017, 2:23 am
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Thanks a lot for your info. I guess I won't make it to my connecting flight from what you say. Anyway, I'll try my best.
If your flight arrives on time there is a good chance you will make the connection.
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When I see reference for a UA flight arriving at "V127" is that a reference to a bus gate?

I'll be arriving at FRA from EWR and during the last week I see the flight landing at "V" gates. I will be connecting to a LH flight to ABZ .

Now I'm beginning to get confused
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Originally Posted by Larrude
When I see reference for a UA flight arriving at "V127" is that a reference to a bus gate?

I'll be arriving at FRA from EWR and during the last week I see the flight landing at "V" gates. I will be connecting to a LH flight to ABZ .

Now I'm beginning to get confused
V127 is a remote stand opposite C gates in FRA. If you want to find the actual arrival gate of your flight check LH's flight status page. Yesterday and today the arrival gate of UA960 (aka LH7602) was AEUW. It is expected to be Z20 tomorrow. AEUW is a bus gate at the bottom of A concourse where arriving passengers from clean non-Schengen countries can enter secure non-Schengen areas of the airport as if they arrived at a Z gate but involves a shorter walk.

Unfortunately if you are connecting to ABZ from a B gate you will have to clear security (but no passport control) after taking the Skyline train to B. The only way to avoid security is to go through passport control into A, walk through the tunnel to B and go through passport control again. Only recommended if you are registered to use automated passport gates.
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Hi,

I will be arriving in FRA via LH from SFO at 11:15 in Y and have 3 1/2 hours before my OS flight to VIE. From what I have gathered so far: FRA is a labyrinth, with multiple security checks, long walks, etc...

I am interested in having lunch at the adjacent Paulaner in the Squaire across the airport. Will I have enough time to do so? I am aware that I will need to go through security again to the A gates for my flight to VIE.

Option B: eat at Deutsch at the Z gates (pricier, more limited menu). If I arrive at a Z gate, can I grab a bite before going to passport control?

Option C: just grab a quick free (Diners Club) bite and some beer at the Luxx Lounge (and go through security again). I've done this before but on a longer layover and at a time when basically the whole airport was still closed at 6am. Or is T2 even an option (if better)?

Thanks a lot in advance.

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Old Jul 18, 2017, 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by alamosf1
Hi,

I will be arriving in FRA via LH from SFO at 11:15 in Y and have 3 1/2 hours before my OS flight to VIE. From what I have gathered so far: FRA is a labyrinth, with multiple security checks, long walks, etc...

I am interested in having lunch at the adjacent Paulaner in the Squaire across the airport. Will I have enough time to do so? I am aware that I will need to go through security again to the A gates for my flight to VIE.

Option B: eat at Deutsch at the Z gates (pricier, more limited menu). If I arrive at a Z gate, can I grab a bite before going to passport control?

Option C: just grab a quick free (Diners Club) bite and some beer at the Luxx Lounge (and go through security again). I've done this before but on a longer layover and at a time when basically the whole airport was still closed at 6am. Or is T2 even an option (if better)?

Thanks a lot in advance.
Yes all are viable. No opinion on quality of food.
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Old Jul 19, 2017, 8:00 am
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I know 1:35 is a fine connection but I've only ever traveled through FRA in F/J/*G & I am booking a ticket for a very special friend to come see me and sometimes you just want FTers to hold you tight and tell you everything will be alright (I can be a travel worst case scenario worry wart).

LH175 TXL-FRA arrive 8:55 to 10:30 LH454 FRA-SFO. I selected his seat in row 12 so he shouldn't take log to get off the plane and I've instructed him to not dilly dally and to go through security/PP control and get to the SFO gate first and foremost.

If for some reason something happened with the TXL flight I guess he'd be on the 13:55 or 17:25 UA flights with any luck?

Or should I just send him through MUC with a 2h+ connection to the UA MUC-SFO flight? He'd get in 2h later which is fine, but we are driving from SFO to my place in Tahoe.

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Originally Posted by JVPhoto
I know 1:35 is a fine connection but I've only ever traveled through FRA in J/*G & I am booking a ticket for a very special friend to come see me and sometimes you just want FTers to hold you tight and tell you everything will be alright (I can be a travel worst case scenario worry wart).

LH175 TXL-FRA arrive 8:55 to 10:30 LH454 FRA-SFO. I selected his seat in row 12 so he shouldn't take log to get off the plane and I've instructed him to not dilly dally and to go through security/PP control and get to the SFO gate first and foremost.

If for some reason something happened with the TXL flight I guess he'd be on the 13:55 or 17:25 UA flights with any luck?

Or should I just send him through MUC with a 2h+ connection to the UA MUC-SFO flight? He'd get in 2h later which is fine, but we are driving from SFO to my place in Tahoe.
Nothing to worry about, assuming inbound even close to on-time ^
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Old Jul 20, 2017, 1:04 am
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Originally Posted by alamosf1
Hi,

I will be arriving in FRA via LH from SFO at 11:15 in Y and have 3 1/2 hours before my OS flight to VIE. From what I have gathered so far: FRA is a labyrinth, with multiple security checks, long walks, etc...

I am interested in having lunch at the adjacent Paulaner in the Squaire across the airport. Will I have enough time to do so? I am aware that I will need to go through security again to the A gates for my flight to VIE.

Option B: eat at Deutsch at the Z gates (pricier, more limited menu). If I arrive at a Z gate, can I grab a bite before going to passport control?

Option C: just grab a quick free (Diners Club) bite and some beer at the Luxx Lounge (and go through security again). I've done this before but on a longer layover and at a time when basically the whole airport was still closed at 6am. Or is T2 even an option (if better)?

Thanks a lot in advance.
Originally Posted by kirkwoodj
Yes all are viable. No opinion on quality of food.
Among the places mentioned I have only eaten at Paulaner and can recommend it. From what I gather it's not worth a trek to T2 to visit a lounge there rather than the Luxx Lounge in T1.
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Old Jul 20, 2017, 1:12 am
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Originally Posted by JVPhoto
I know 1:35 is a fine connection but I've only ever traveled through FRA in F/J/*G & I am booking a ticket for a very special friend to come see me and sometimes you just want FTers to hold you tight and tell you everything will be alright (I can be a travel worst case scenario worry wart).

LH175 TXL-FRA arrive 8:55 to 10:30 LH454 FRA-SFO. I selected his seat in row 12 so he shouldn't take log to get off the plane and I've instructed him to not dilly dally and to go through security/PP control and get to the SFO gate first and foremost.
You travel in F/J yourself and expect a very special friend to travel in Y?
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Old Jul 20, 2017, 4:46 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
You travel in F/J yourself and expect a very special friend to travel in Y?
Acfually he got PE with the much cheaper buy ups. Well...it's special now but after this trip maybe will add very to that.
Traveling WITH me then it's F/J.
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Originally Posted by JVPhoto
Well...it's special now but after this trip maybe will add very to that.
Good luck!
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