Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
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DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Apr 4, 2017, 12:54 am
#3901
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: EWR
Programs: UA MM GS, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 519
Non-Schengen A to NS B - avoid train and security?
hey FRA experts
i just arrived on LH from US in the non-Schengen Z gates. Did a quick stop at the Senator lounge.
I then followed the signs to B20-64, ending up taking the train but ever clearing immigration. At B gates I had to go thru security again to get to B23 for a non-Schengen EU flight to the U.K.
I am now wondering if I could have saved time and hassle of another security control (and kept my bottle of water) if I had followed signs to B1-19 and walked thru the tunnel after clearing immigration?
Is there a way from those Schengen B gates to the non-Schengen gates without going thru security?
thanks
FeM
i just arrived on LH from US in the non-Schengen Z gates. Did a quick stop at the Senator lounge.
I then followed the signs to B20-64, ending up taking the train but ever clearing immigration. At B gates I had to go thru security again to get to B23 for a non-Schengen EU flight to the U.K.
I am now wondering if I could have saved time and hassle of another security control (and kept my bottle of water) if I had followed signs to B1-19 and walked thru the tunnel after clearing immigration?
Is there a way from those Schengen B gates to the non-Schengen gates without going thru security?
thanks
FeM
Apr 4, 2017, 2:03 am
#3902
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hey FRA experts
i just arrived on LH from US in the non-Schengen Z gates. Did a quick stop at the Senator lounge.
I then followed the signs to B20-64, ending up taking the train but ever clearing immigration. At B gates I had to go thru security again to get to B23 for a non-Schengen EU flight to the U.K.
I am now wondering if I ft could have saved time and hassle of another security control (and kept my bottle of water) if I had followed signs to B1-19 and walked thru the tunnel after clearing immigration?
Is there a way from those Schengen B gates to the non-Schengen gates without going thru security?
thanks
FeM
i just arrived on LH from US in the non-Schengen Z gates. Did a quick stop at the Senator lounge.
I then followed the signs to B20-64, ending up taking the train but ever clearing immigration. At B gates I had to go thru security again to get to B23 for a non-Schengen EU flight to the U.K.
I am now wondering if I ft could have saved time and hassle of another security control (and kept my bottle of water) if I had followed signs to B1-19 and walked thru the tunnel after clearing immigration?
Is there a way from those Schengen B gates to the non-Schengen gates without going thru security?
thanks
FeM
Only recommended if you can use E-passport gates.
Apr 4, 2017, 3:25 am
#3903
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: EWR
Programs: UA MM GS, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 519
Yes, if you arrive in Z (and not on the arrival level above Z, where gates are called Z62A for example) you can go to B non-Schengen without reclearing security by going down to A through passport control, down the elevator by gate A15, through the tunnel to B and going through passport control again into B non-Schengen departures.
Only recommended if you can use E-passport gates.
Only recommended if you can use E-passport gates.
Apr 4, 2017, 11:10 pm
#3904
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 73
Wow, what a confusing sounding airport
Travelling via FRA for the first time soon, and what a confusing sounding airport!
I am arriving in T2/D from a OW airline, and have a long layover before flying on LH operated by JP to a Schengen destination, which I understand is T1/A or B.
When I arrive in D, will I be able to access OW lounges in T2, or will I be forced landside or into a transfer zone in T1? Is Once thru security, is there free movement between T1 and T2 airside?
Lastly, if I am on a single ticket, but crossing alliances, must I re-claim checked baggage in between flights?
I am arriving in T2/D from a OW airline, and have a long layover before flying on LH operated by JP to a Schengen destination, which I understand is T1/A or B.
When I arrive in D, will I be able to access OW lounges in T2, or will I be forced landside or into a transfer zone in T1? Is Once thru security, is there free movement between T1 and T2 airside?
Lastly, if I am on a single ticket, but crossing alliances, must I re-claim checked baggage in between flights?
Apr 5, 2017, 1:16 am
#3905
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Berlin
Programs: BAEC; LH M&M; HH Diamond
Posts: 814
Well to answer your question properly you would have to state which OW airline you are arriving on. If it's, say, Finnair or Iberia then you would already be in the Schengen area and that would make it a different case to, say, BA or CX.
In any case I don't believe any of the OW T2 lounges consider themselves to be arrival lounges and since you are not departing on a OW flight, then I would asume you are not entitled to access.
In any case I don't believe any of the OW T2 lounges consider themselves to be arrival lounges and since you are not departing on a OW flight, then I would asume you are not entitled to access.
Apr 5, 2017, 9:09 am
#3906
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: MEX
Programs: TK G,UA *S
Posts: 1,137
Hello FRA experts,
I am wondering about the time I need to recheck my luggage if flying from HAM to FRA and continuing to MUC on separate tickets.
See that HAM flights arrive at A gates and MUC flights leave from there.
Should arrive from HAM ar 10:10 am and take the 13:15 flight to MUC.
How long do I need to reclaim the bag and recheck it again at terminal A?
Thanks
I am wondering about the time I need to recheck my luggage if flying from HAM to FRA and continuing to MUC on separate tickets.
See that HAM flights arrive at A gates and MUC flights leave from there.
Should arrive from HAM ar 10:10 am and take the 13:15 flight to MUC.
How long do I need to reclaim the bag and recheck it again at terminal A?
Thanks
Apr 8, 2017, 12:24 am
#3907
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Berlin
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Yes, everything should take place in Terminal 1A. When you exit from airside go down the escalator straight on front of you and collect your bags. Then out the exit and back up to departures level to check them in again and return via security to the A gates.
Probably achievable in well under an hour on a normal day.
Probably achievable in well under an hour on a normal day.
Last edited by AlienInTheFatherland; Apr 8, 2017 at 4:24 am
Apr 8, 2017, 7:41 am
#3908
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: FRA
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Posts: 667
Hello FRA experts,
I am wondering about the time I need to recheck my luggage if flying from HAM to FRA and continuing to MUC on separate tickets.
See that HAM flights arrive at A gates and MUC flights leave from there.
Should arrive from HAM ar 10:10 am and take the 13:15 flight to MUC.
How long do I need to reclaim the bag and recheck it again at terminal A?
Thanks
I am wondering about the time I need to recheck my luggage if flying from HAM to FRA and continuing to MUC on separate tickets.
See that HAM flights arrive at A gates and MUC flights leave from there.
Should arrive from HAM ar 10:10 am and take the 13:15 flight to MUC.
How long do I need to reclaim the bag and recheck it again at terminal A?
Thanks
Apr 14, 2017, 7:40 pm
#3909
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Flying IAD-FRA on UA and then FRA-DUB on LH, assume UA will arrive at Z and LH will depart at B. Any advice for making the connection but also want lounge time to shower? I have about 2h30m for the connection. All of my connections at FRA have been U.S. to/from Schengen or other A/Z flights, never non-Schengen at B. Thanks!
Apr 16, 2017, 9:35 am
#3910
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 67
Hello!
Traveling in F to and from Tokyo with Lufthansa with an infant, what's the best way for us to have the best possible transfer experience (i.e. security & passport checks)?
Previously we just walked to FCT and did security & immigration there, but I'd like to avoid that walk with infant + plenty more carry-on luggage if possible.
Going to Japan I assume is A -> Z and going back seems to be C -> A.
Going C to A I guess means clearing security. Is there fast track at the transfer security? If not, can we simply to land side and re-clear security (I'm assuming there's fast track / First Class security coming from land side).
Traveling in F to and from Tokyo with Lufthansa with an infant, what's the best way for us to have the best possible transfer experience (i.e. security & passport checks)?
Previously we just walked to FCT and did security & immigration there, but I'd like to avoid that walk with infant + plenty more carry-on luggage if possible.
Going to Japan I assume is A -> Z and going back seems to be C -> A.
Going C to A I guess means clearing security. Is there fast track at the transfer security? If not, can we simply to land side and re-clear security (I'm assuming there's fast track / First Class security coming from land side).
Apr 16, 2017, 8:55 pm
#3911
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawai'i Nei
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Posts: 7,140
Thanks in advance to those who might offer their learned opinion:
Flight is a LH from LHR, connecting in FRA to a UA flight to SFO.
According to Expert Flyer, the MCT is 1 hour. I have 1 hour and 50 minutes.
Aside from a severely delayed incoming flight, should I be concerned? I assume that I will need to go through a security line: Is there an expedited line for F fliers?
Flight is a LH from LHR, connecting in FRA to a UA flight to SFO.
According to Expert Flyer, the MCT is 1 hour. I have 1 hour and 50 minutes.
Aside from a severely delayed incoming flight, should I be concerned? I assume that I will need to go through a security line: Is there an expedited line for F fliers?
Apr 16, 2017, 9:06 pm
#3912
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: GRR, USA
Posts: 3,298
Thanks in advance to those who might offer their learned opinion:
Flight is a LH from LHR, connecting in FRA to a UA flight to SFO.
According to Expert Flyer, the MCT is 1 hour. I have 1 hour and 50 minutes.
Aside from a severely delayed incoming flight, should I be concerned? I assume that I will need to go through a security line: Is there an expedited line for F fliers?
Flight is a LH from LHR, connecting in FRA to a UA flight to SFO.
According to Expert Flyer, the MCT is 1 hour. I have 1 hour and 50 minutes.
Aside from a severely delayed incoming flight, should I be concerned? I assume that I will need to go through a security line: Is there an expedited line for F fliers?
Apr 17, 2017, 12:21 am
#3913
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Geneva
Programs: LX SEN, AFKL Platinum, BA Bronze,
Posts: 5,627
Hello!
Traveling in F to and from Tokyo with Lufthansa with an infant, what's the best way for us to have the best possible transfer experience (i.e. security & passport checks)?
Previously we just walked to FCT and did security & immigration there, but I'd like to avoid that walk with infant + plenty more carry-on luggage if possible.
Going to Japan I assume is A -> Z and going back seems to be C -> A.
Going C to A I guess means clearing security. Is there fast track at the transfer security? If not, can we simply to land side and re-clear security (I'm assuming there's fast track / First Class security coming from land side).
Traveling in F to and from Tokyo with Lufthansa with an infant, what's the best way for us to have the best possible transfer experience (i.e. security & passport checks)?
Previously we just walked to FCT and did security & immigration there, but I'd like to avoid that walk with infant + plenty more carry-on luggage if possible.
Going to Japan I assume is A -> Z and going back seems to be C -> A.
Going C to A I guess means clearing security. Is there fast track at the transfer security? If not, can we simply to land side and re-clear security (I'm assuming there's fast track / First Class security coming from land side).
In that case I would take the tunnel and go through passport control at B for the FCL B. From there they will drive you in case of Z or C departure, and B is only a short walk away.
On the way back it is much of the same. If C then you're short of luck, as it will be a walk and the skyline train. If Z then the walk might be shorter and you won't need the train. Otherwise it is a choice between FCT (walk there but car to the plane) or FCL A (shorter walk to the lounge but only a car if apron position).
Apr 17, 2017, 11:06 am
#3914
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 67
Where are you coming from? I assume as you mention A that you will come in from Schengen.
In that case I would take the tunnel and go through passport control at B for the FCL B. From there they will drive you in case of Z or C departure, and B is only a short walk away.
On the way back it is much of the same. If C then you're short of luck, as it will be a walk and the skyline train. If Z then the walk might be shorter and you won't need the train. Otherwise it is a choice between FCT (walk there but car to the plane) or FCL A (shorter walk to the lounge but only a car if apron position).
In that case I would take the tunnel and go through passport control at B for the FCL B. From there they will drive you in case of Z or C departure, and B is only a short walk away.
On the way back it is much of the same. If C then you're short of luck, as it will be a walk and the skyline train. If Z then the walk might be shorter and you won't need the train. Otherwise it is a choice between FCT (walk there but car to the plane) or FCL A (shorter walk to the lounge but only a car if apron position).
Regarding transfer security on the way back, is there fast track at the transfer security? Otherwise I'd rather go to the FCT and clear security there.
Apr 17, 2017, 9:52 pm
#3915
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 73
Arriving in T2 on AA from the USA, and have a very long (6 hour) layover before a LH/JP flight out of terminal 1. Was planning to go into the city during the layover.
Upon arrival, should I head to terminal 1 airside to check my now-too-heavy carry on bag for the LH/JP segment before taking the train into the city? How early does LH/JP accept checked bags?
Upon arrival, do I want to follow signs for transfers to T1, then exit landside, or must I exit landside in T2?
Upon arrival, should I head to terminal 1 airside to check my now-too-heavy carry on bag for the LH/JP segment before taking the train into the city? How early does LH/JP accept checked bags?
Upon arrival, do I want to follow signs for transfers to T1, then exit landside, or must I exit landside in T2?