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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Aug 2, 2010, 10:49 am
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Anxiety attack!

In preparation for our first transit in the FRA airport, I have tried to study this thread. Now I'm really concerned. We depart Newark on a Friday evening [8/20] on a CO code share w. LH..arrive FRA with a 65 min 'layover' to catch a CO code share, again on LH, to Venice. Our ticket indicates a Terminal 1 arrival...Does that mean flight bridge or bus ? And since Italy is non-S, but another country, where do we depart from? Our transit time seems awfully tight although it was CO that booked this connection. Any help appreciated.
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Originally Posted by PaulaJK
In preparation for our first transit in the FRA airport, I have tried to study this thread. Now I'm really concerned. We depart Newark on a Friday evening [8/20] on a CO code share w. LH..arrive FRA with a 65 min 'layover' to catch a CO code share, again on LH, to Venice. Our ticket indicates a Terminal 1 arrival...Does that mean flight bridge or bus ? And since Italy is non-S, but another country, where do we depart from? Our transit time seems awfully tight although it was CO that booked this connection. Any help appreciated.
lh.com is selling this ticket, so there shd be no problem from wht we read in this thread.. Terminal 1 handles all LH flights .. most probably u arrive in A gates and also depart from gates A ( 1 floor below) though these can change..If the connection is missed, LH will put u into the next available flight which I can see is around 1220 ..
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Old Aug 2, 2010, 3:44 pm
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Thank you for your reply One floor down [& I gather, no immigration, customs
and additional security screening] would be great and with luck, should help us make our flight.
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Old Aug 2, 2010, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by PaulaJK
In preparation for our first transit in the FRA airport, I have tried to study this thread. Now I'm really concerned. We depart Newark on a Friday evening [8/20] on a CO code share w. LH..arrive FRA with a 65 min 'layover' to catch a CO code share, again on LH, to Venice. Our ticket indicates a Terminal 1 arrival...Does that mean flight bridge or bus ? And since Italy is non-S, but another country, where do we depart from? Our transit time seems awfully tight although it was CO that booked this connection. Any help appreciated.
Don't worry- thousands of people do this connection every day without an issue. 65 minutes should be fine for a connection- and in the rare event you miss your connection- not to worry- there are 7 non-stop flights a day from FRA to VCE with LH- and they change the plane size based on demand- so you could be on anything from a 737 to a larger Airbus. The flight time is 55 minutes- 65 minutes based on air traffic control in this area of europe.
By the way-unless it changed from yesterday Italy is still 100% Schengen as it has been since 1999- so you are going to arrive at FRA at either A, B, or C (I suspect A but who knows for sure- and very unlikely C from USA LH flights?). Your flight will depart from either A or B Schengen areas- you will clear passport control and mandatory screening at FRA in any event- everything will take place at Terminal 1 for sure as Lufthansa does not operate out of T2. The flight is above MCT and should be completely do-able barring some IROPS.
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By the way-unless it changed from yesterday Italy is still 100% Schengen as it has been since 1999- so you are going to arrive at FRA at either A, B, or C (I suspect A but who knows for sure- and very unlikely C from USA LH flights?). Your flight will depart from either A or B Schengen areas- you will clear passport control and mandatory screening at FRA in any event- everything will take place at Terminal 1 for sure as Lufthansa does not operate out of T2. The flight is above MCT and should be completely do-able barring some IROPS.
+1.. immigration will be done and so will security screening..and rest assured u will reach Venice the same day if not the same flight
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Questions on transfers in Frankfurt...

I am trying to help my mother with an award trip from NY to Delhi. The outbound option looks like it is going to be CO 50 EWR-FRA in BF and LH #760 FRA-DEL in F. The return is all LH in F.

Will She be able to check luggage at EWR through to DEL? Will she be need to cross customs, etc in FRA or will she be able to go from the plane to the lounge?

Where is the F lounge compared to where she will come in on CO? Will LH help her get from CO flight to F lounge and then on to the LH flight??

On the way back it appears she will have a long layover (10 hours) in Frankfurt. Both are LH F flights. What facilities will she have access to as I think she will likely not leave the airport if they are comfortable.

I apprecite the help.
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Old Aug 22, 2010, 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by ldsny
I am trying to help my mother with an award trip from NY to Delhi. The outbound option looks like it is going to be CO 50 EWR-FRA in BF and LH #760 FRA-DEL in F. The return is all LH in F.

Will She be able to check luggage at EWR through to DEL? Will she be need to cross customs, etc in FRA or will she be able to go from the plane to the lounge?

Where is the F lounge compared to where she will come in on CO? Will LH help her get from CO flight to F lounge and then on to the LH flight??

On the way back it appears she will have a long layover (10 hours) in Frankfurt. Both are LH F flights. What facilities will she have access to as I think she will likely not leave the airport if they are comfortable.

I apprecite the help.
Her CO flight will probably arrive in Pier A and the DEL flight is likely to depart from Pier B. She should be able to check her luggage through to DEL and there's no need for her to go through passport control or customs in FRA though she is likely to have to go through security screening.

The lounge to use will be the FCL B. If your mother has mobility problems and you think she needs help to get from her flight to the lounge you can pre-arrange assistnace for which there may or may not be a charge depending on what you request.

If she just needs direction all signs are in German and English and almost everybody she'll come across (airline & airport employees) should speak English so there shouldn't be any language problem. She will have to walk to the departure gate for her DEL flight from the FCL B since it will be very close to the lounge but I'm sure someone will direct her if necessary.

On the way back she can spend all the time in the FCL B again where there are rooms with a day bed or if she does not need a visa (or has a visa) to enter Schengen, she can use a free dayroom at the Kempinski Hotel.

Her flight from DEL will arrive at a C or B gate but someone will direct her to the FCL if she arrives at a C gate. She will be driven to her EWR flight from the FCL B.

You may want to check the following thread for more information.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...on-thread.html

and this page on lufthansa.com:

http://www.lufthansa.com/uk/en/First...0the%20airport
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First class terminal / lounge access

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I am planning a trip through FRA in January. I will be flying SVG-FRA(LH) - ZRH (LH) in C with a continuation to DAR (LX) in F the next day (due to morning flight). In my connection in FRA, will I be entitled to enter the F lounge / terminal ? And would anyone know if I receive the F class treatment (car service to / from aircraft) in FRA or ZRH as one of my legs are F (no F on the other legs, only Y & C) ? Wondering about the same on my way back, which will be the exact same route / classes, only no layovers. All help / comments appreciated
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Originally Posted by Stephano
Hi,

I am planning a trip through FRA in January. I will be flying SVG-FRA(LH) - ZRH (LH) in C with a continuation to DAR (LX) in F the next day (due to morning flight). In my connection in FRA, will I be entitled to enter the F lounge / terminal ? And would anyone know if I receive the F class treatment (car service to / from aircraft) in FRA or ZRH as one of my legs are F (no F on the other legs, only Y & C) ? Wondering about the same on my way back, which will be the exact same route / classes, only no layovers. All help / comments appreciated
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Old Aug 22, 2010, 11:22 am
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The lounge access rules on lufthansa.com should answer the questions.

I don't think Stephano will have access to the FCT/FCL in FRA because his LX F flight isn't until the following day but he should have access to the FCL in ZRH. You will be driven from the FCL in ZRH but not right up to the a/c.

On the way back he should have access to the FCL at both ZRH and FRA assuming that this is all on the same day.

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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Actually the FRA connection thread doesn't cover FCT/FCL access.

The lounge access rules on lufthansa.com should answer the questions.

I don't think Stephano will have access to the FCT/FCL in FRA because his LX F flight isn't until the following day but he should have access to the FCL in ZRH. You will be driven from the FCL in ZRH but not right up to the a/c.

On the way back he should have access to the FCL at both ZRH and FRA assuming that this is all on the same day.
Oh D'OH!! I was thinking I was referring to the FCT/FCL thread! Thanks for picking that up. Will remove that from my post.
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Old Aug 22, 2010, 11:31 am
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The FCT/FCL thread that snod08 refers to is:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...-fct-faqs.html

Although it's primarily about the FCT there is some reference to the FRA FCLs as well.
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
The lounge access rules on lufthansa.com should answer the questions.

I don't think Stephano will have access to the FCT/FCL in FRA because his LX F flight isn't until the following day but he should have access to the FCL in ZRH. You will be driven from the FCL in ZRH but not right up to the a/c.

On the way back he should have access to the FCL at both ZRH and FRA assuming that this is all on the same day.
Thanks for the quick reply!! I have never tried F on LX, but will I get the car service in both ZRH and FRA on my way back?

I probably should post this elsewhere, but since I have your attention here These tickets are not ticketed yet, as there is low availability in F on the way back. I am considering getting a C ticket on the way back from DAR, and hope for a F ticket to be released so that I can bump us up to first. Is it worth taking the risk, in worst case I get stuck on C class? Or should I postpone the trip to be guaranteed F both ways? Thanks !"
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Thanks for the quick reply!! I have never tried F on LX, but will I get the car service in both ZRH and FRA on my way back?
My answer was about FCL access and not about the car service. I'm not an expert on this but I don't think there will be any car service at either unless you walk to the FCT in FRA. I don't think it's worth the trouble.

I probably should post this elsewhere...
I think you should...
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Hi all,

Will be flying LH from TXL-FRA, connecting to SQ from FRA to SIN, on two different PNRs in Jan 2011. Is 1h15m likely to be an adequate time to make this connection in winter? Are TXL or FRA susceptible to weather delays at this time of year?

Also, will I be able to check my baggage through from TXL-SIN, or will I have to recheck at FRA?

Thanks in anticipation of your assistance.
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