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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Mar 12, 2019, 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by 764toHI
Thank you - I have to clear transfer security arriving from JFK? I know SQ25 passengers are required to undergo transfer security even if they are continuing to JFK. Admittedly I usually fly UA into FRA so I can't remember the intricacies with the B pier.
SQ like AC use B gates which means arriving passengers are not clean once they enter the terminal whether they arrive from JFK or SIN.

Originally Posted by truncated
SQ25 and 26 continuing pax are considered clean and don't have to clear transit security, but not sure if this applies for passengers connecting to other flights as well

(e.g. see this post in the SQ forum -- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30722861-post623.html -- when deplaning terminating passengers are sent up the stairs to the third floor to immigration/customs, while continuing passengers exit on the second floor into the secure area, but they don't really check for a continuing BP so I think it's possible to just exit into the secure area with the FRA-SIN pax)
That's interesting! Unfortunately third floor = transfer area = unclean due to the layout of the concourse. But 764toHI may be able to get away without clearing security by staying with continuing passengers.

Originally Posted by 764toHI
And after leaving the lounge I will just follow the "Ausgang" signs.
In theory, yes. But the lounges are in the departure area and passengers normally leave the area by boarding a plane through one of the departure gates. So you won't see many "Ausgang" signs. (In fact at some airports passengers have to be escorted to leave the departure area but not at FRA.) As far as I know there is only one way for passengers to leave the departure area without boarding a flight and it's through a oneway automated door opposite McCafe on the same floor where the MLL is located.

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Old Mar 13, 2019, 4:15 pm
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LH819 to LH778 on a Wednesday evening.
Schengen to non schengen, two adults 3 kids, on EU passports.

1hr5min connection time, is it doomed?
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 4:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Soph
LH819 to LH778 on a Wednesday evening.
Schengen to non schengen, two adults 3 kids, on EU passports.

1hr5min connection time, is it doomed?
If the inbound is one time, it is perfectly doable. Just don‘t expect to get much time at the lounge and have a plan B in case you do miss the flight.
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Old Mar 14, 2019, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by worldclubber


If the inbound is one time, it is perfectly doable. Just don‘t expect to get much time at the lounge and have a plan B in case you do miss the flight.

Thanks, Well actually there isnt much of a plan b since its one of the last flights out in the evening.
There is a SQ flight departing some 20min later. What are the chanses LH will automatically put us on that one in case we miss the LH flight by minutes?

Adults are *A gold, and silver. Kids no status.
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Old Mar 14, 2019, 2:59 pm
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Do we have to reclear security check on a Z to C (both non-Schengen)?

made this transfer many times but I clear passport control to hang out at Starbucks and then passport control and security into C.
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Old Mar 14, 2019, 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by myperks
Do we have to reclear security check on a Z to C (both non-Schengen)?

made this transfer many times but I clear passport control to hang out at Starbucks and then passport control and security into C.
Yes, you’ll have to reclear security.
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Old Mar 14, 2019, 7:09 pm
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Yes, you’ll have to reclear security.
thanks. Maybe I’ll do my normal Starbucks run since I have to clear security anyways.
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Old Mar 17, 2019, 6:57 am
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Is there a transfer desk for Air Canada at the transit area?

I'm arriving from MCT, but the flight is after 14 hours layover so i'm not sure if i will have time for check in for AC flight at MCT
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Old Mar 18, 2019, 9:00 am
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There is an AC transfer desk in B, however they are open only around the departure time of AC flights. The ML lounge maybe able to assist if the AC counter is closed.
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Old Mar 18, 2019, 9:55 pm
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Arriving 11:05 from SAN on LH and then connecting for flight to VCE at 12:30. Traveling with kids. Will we make it? Quickest route? Some with EU passports. Thanks!
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Old Mar 18, 2019, 10:22 pm
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Arriving 11:05 from SAN on LH and then connecting for flight to VCE at 12:30. Traveling with kids. Will we make it? Quickest route? Some with EU passports. Thanks!
Ought to be plenty of time, seems to be arriving at AEUW, a bus gate & since your coming in ‘clean’ no transfer security just passport control.

Of course in the unlikely event you misconnect they will put you on the next available flight to VCE.
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Whew, after trying to read through and understand the first few posts of this thread, I think I may have felt less anxious not knowing this thread existed at all! However, I think I should be pretty safe with my flights, anyone mind confirming?

Arriving at 11:05 on LH447 (flying J, so should be off early in the process), departing at 12:40 on LH 992. Non-Schengen (DEN) to Schengen (AMS). It appears that 447 typically ends up in Z, and 992 is out of A, so I think that we likely won't have to go through transfer security, only passport control?
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Old Mar 20, 2019, 3:04 pm
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Originally Posted by emag_eh7
Whew, after trying to read through and understand the first few posts of this thread, I think I may have felt less anxious not knowing this thread existed at all! However, I think I should be pretty safe with my flights, anyone mind confirming?

Arriving at 11:05 on LH447 (flying J, so should be off early in the process), departing at 12:40 on LH 992. Non-Schengen (DEN) to Schengen (AMS). It appears that 447 typically ends up in Z, and 992 is out of A, so I think that we likely won't have to go through transfer security, only passport control?
That's correct and 1h35m should be enough for this connection.
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Old Mar 22, 2019, 4:21 pm
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incoming from ATH on Aegan in C at 1025, departing Tokyo on ANA in F at 1130.
how safe is this connection? in case of a misconnection, how likely am i to be rebooked on the evenings flight(s)? booked with M&M miles.

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Old Mar 23, 2019, 10:48 am
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I will be travelling DUB - FRA and then FRA - BSL both on LH. When booked by agent there was a 70 min layover, the first flight has changed time and now there is a 50 min layover. We are all on EU passports.
We are travelling with my 85 year old mother (she’s fairly mobile but doesn’t walk that fast) Is this doable? I’d worry about this on my own but with my mother in tow I think I should change the flights, that said, I’ve never been through FRA before.
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