Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Mar 4, 2019, 9:17 am
#5131
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Mar 4, 2019, 9:23 am
#5132
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Hi, I'm transiting via frankfurt tomorrow BHX-FRA-IST
I arrive at the bus gate (AEUW) and depart gate B54 - usually when arriving at the bus gates I've ended up going through security again, but that's going non schengn to schengen - Will I have to do that this time? Or is there an alternative (I've got plenty of time, but will probably check my bag if I need to go through security again)
I arrive at the bus gate (AEUW) and depart gate B54 - usually when arriving at the bus gates I've ended up going through security again, but that's going non schengn to schengen - Will I have to do that this time? Or is there an alternative (I've got plenty of time, but will probably check my bag if I need to go through security again)
Maybe with the bus that seems to be running now this is also possible?
Mar 4, 2019, 12:35 pm
#5133
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Hi, I'm transiting via frankfurt tomorrow BHX-FRA-IST
I arrive at the bus gate (AEUW) and depart gate B54 - usually when arriving at the bus gates I've ended up going through security again, but that's going non schengn to schengen - Will I have to do that this time? Or is there an alternative (I've got plenty of time, but will probably check my bag if I need to go through security again)
I arrive at the bus gate (AEUW) and depart gate B54 - usually when arriving at the bus gates I've ended up going through security again, but that's going non schengn to schengen - Will I have to do that this time? Or is there an alternative (I've got plenty of time, but will probably check my bag if I need to go through security again)
Please report back how you get on.
Mar 4, 2019, 10:18 pm
#5134
Join Date: Dec 2017
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Bus, Z to B
AEUW is great if you are connecting from an A or Z gate but useless if you are connecting from B non-Schengen as far as I know. You'll have to hope there is a transfer bus from Z to B running so you can go to B without having to clear security. I'm not sure where the transfer bus to B leaves in relation to AEUW but I'd try and ask someone from LH/FRAport as soon as you enter the terminal. If not, follow the signs for Z and look for a sign for the transfer bus.
Please report back how you get on.
Please report back how you get on.
In the end I wound up using the AEUW->A->B route via two passport controls. The non-EU line at A passport control was significant at 7:00 A.M., and non-existent at B.
Mar 5, 2019, 4:45 am
#5135
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AEUW is great if you are connecting from an A or Z gate but useless if you are connecting from B non-Schengen as far as I know. You'll have to hope there is a transfer bus from Z to B running so you can go to B without having to clear security. I'm not sure where the transfer bus to B leaves in relation to AEUW but I'd try and ask someone from LH/FRAport as soon as you enter the terminal.
Please report back how you get on.
Please report back how you get on.
I thi k ill just have to accept I'll never fully get the hang of Frankfurt!
Mar 11, 2019, 8:03 am
#5136
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I have an evening Schengen-FRA-Longhaul trip coming up where the connection time is about 1.5h. Between the evening flight time (ie possibility of delays accumulating through the day) the stories about slowpoke FRA security, and the need to queue for non-EU exit immigration, all of this is a bit scary. How worried should I be about missing the second flight? And in the event that I do, is it relatively painless to get reaccommodated or do I need to keep records of queues etc. to prove I didn’t waste an hour taking my own sweet time at a bar? What’s the best place to arrange the rebooking - at Flight Connections or in a lounge?
sorry for all these questions as I don’t fly LH that often and like to be prepared!
sorry for all these questions as I don’t fly LH that often and like to be prepared!
Mar 11, 2019, 8:27 am
#5137
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I have an evening Schengen-FRA-Longhaul trip coming up where the connection time is about 1.5h. Between the evening flight time (ie possibility of delays accumulating through the day) the stories about slowpoke FRA security, and the need to queue for non-EU exit immigration, all of this is a bit scary. How worried should I be about missing the second flight? And in the event that I do, is it relatively painless to get reaccommodated or do I need to keep records of queues etc. to prove I didn’t waste an hour taking my own sweet time at a bar? What’s the best place to arrange the rebooking - at Flight Connections or in a lounge?
sorry for all these questions as I don’t fly LH that often and like to be prepared!
sorry for all these questions as I don’t fly LH that often and like to be prepared!
If you missed the flight and did not take your sweet time at a bar, reaccommodation is usually easy, either via phone, at the lounge or at one of the LH service desks.
Mar 12, 2019, 1:54 am
#5138
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I have a 50 minute connection time at FRA between LH177 from TXL and LH462 to Miami. Could anyone estimate the probability that I might miss the flight - I am a reasonably fit 68-year old?
Mar 12, 2019, 2:14 am
#5139
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Even the slightest delay out of TXL, which are not uncommon, will make you miss the flight. I would try to change it to an earlier flight from TXL, but since the connection is legal, LH may not let you.
Mar 12, 2019, 3:15 am
#5140
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I wish you good luck. Last year we had a 50 min connection from inbound FCO to outbound IAH. Landed at a A bus gate and of course departed the furthest Z gate possible. We arrived late. Passport control on Z was a zoo. Plus, they check your passport a further time once upstairs for access to the concourse. Be prepared to run. It’s pretty common.
Mar 12, 2019, 8:10 am
#5141
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Been awhile since I had a FRA layover - I'm arriving on SQ25 from JFK and departing on SQ325 to SIN later that evening so I would like to enter Germany . If I recall correctly, I will be able to take a shower in the SEN or MLL lounge before clearing immigration?
Mar 12, 2019, 8:57 am
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Yes, you can with your departing BP to SIN but you will have to clear transfer security to go to the SEN or MLL lounge. After leaving the lounge you will have to re-enter the transfer area before clearing passport control.
Mar 12, 2019, 9:00 am
#5143
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If you are still *G then yes, although you might need to clear security.
Mar 12, 2019, 9:20 am
#5144
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Thank you - I have to clear transfer security arriving from JFK? I know SQ25 passengers are required to undergo transfer security even if they are continuing to JFK. Admittedly I usually fly UA into FRA so I can't remember the intricacies with the B pier.
And after leaving the lounge I will just follow the "Ausgang" signs.
And after leaving the lounge I will just follow the "Ausgang" signs.
Mar 12, 2019, 10:43 am
#5145
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Thank you - I have to clear transfer security arriving from JFK? I know SQ25 passengers are required to undergo transfer security even if they are continuing to JFK. Admittedly I usually fly UA into FRA so I can't remember the intricacies with the B pier.
And after leaving the lounge I will just follow the "Ausgang" signs.
And after leaving the lounge I will just follow the "Ausgang" signs.
(e.g. see this post in the SQ forum -- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30722861-post623.html -- when deplaning terminating passengers are sent up the stairs to the third floor to immigration/customs, while continuing passengers exit on the second floor into the secure area, but they don't really check for a continuing BP so I think it's possible to just exit into the secure area with the FRA-SIN pax)