Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Feb 19, 2019, 12:51 am
#5086
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 11
Moving T1-Z to T2-D
Flying into FRA tomorrow from the US. Arriving T1-Z on UA. Hopefully not for a bus gate arrival, fingers crossed (only had 1/20 bus arrival on UA).
Normally I’m doing the easy transfer to *A schengen in T1A...but this time I have a separate ticket on a Finnnair flight out of T2D. I’ve never actually been to FRA T2 in all my years.
it seems on arrival I clear customs (I have the biometric registration for the fast lanes) and board the Skyline airtrain. Seems easy enough, just never done it.
part that is unclear...can I board airside (and schengen -side)...and then exit the skyline in T2D still airside (secure) and in schengen and go straight to the gate? Or is there any extra security still just from boarding the train?
ive got 1:30 to connect, assuming arrival is on-time.
thx
Normally I’m doing the easy transfer to *A schengen in T1A...but this time I have a separate ticket on a Finnnair flight out of T2D. I’ve never actually been to FRA T2 in all my years.
it seems on arrival I clear customs (I have the biometric registration for the fast lanes) and board the Skyline airtrain. Seems easy enough, just never done it.
part that is unclear...can I board airside (and schengen -side)...and then exit the skyline in T2D still airside (secure) and in schengen and go straight to the gate? Or is there any extra security still just from boarding the train?
ive got 1:30 to connect, assuming arrival is on-time.
thx
Feb 19, 2019, 4:20 am
#5087
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Flying into FRA tomorrow from the US. Arriving T1-Z on UA. Hopefully not for a bus gate arrival, fingers crossed (only had 1/20 bus arrival on UA).
Normally I’m doing the easy transfer to *A schengen in T1A...but this time I have a separate ticket on a Finnnair flight out of T2D. I’ve never actually been to FRA T2 in all my years.
it seems on arrival I clear customs (I have the biometric registration for the fast lanes) and board the Skyline airtrain. Seems easy enough, just never done it.
part that is unclear...can I board airside (and schengen -side)...and then exit the skyline in T2D still airside (secure) and in schengen and go straight to the gate? Or is there any extra security still just from boarding the train?
ive got 1:30 to connect, assuming arrival is on-time.
thx
Normally I’m doing the easy transfer to *A schengen in T1A...but this time I have a separate ticket on a Finnnair flight out of T2D. I’ve never actually been to FRA T2 in all my years.
it seems on arrival I clear customs (I have the biometric registration for the fast lanes) and board the Skyline airtrain. Seems easy enough, just never done it.
part that is unclear...can I board airside (and schengen -side)...and then exit the skyline in T2D still airside (secure) and in schengen and go straight to the gate? Or is there any extra security still just from boarding the train?
ive got 1:30 to connect, assuming arrival is on-time.
thx
Feb 19, 2019, 5:53 am
#5088
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 8,006
The Skyline is “unclean” whether you ride in the Schengen or non-Schengen carriage. Security in T2 is by the gate in any case. Directions on FRA Airport app suggest you go through passport control (I assume this is what you mean by ‘customs’) on arrival in T2 if you are flying to a Schengen destination.
In any case need to pass security.
One can go on a train from "Germany" or "Transit" side, but I don't see that much of a difference between passing immigration in T1 or T2.
Feb 19, 2019, 10:30 pm
#5089
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: NYC
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Posts: 1,705
Hi All, just want to double check my understanding on this one:
Inbound on LH901 from LHR. The status page has said it arrived at B24A on the last 3 days
Outbound on LH736/740 to KIX/NGO. These flights have departed from Z50 and Z58 recently.
My understanding is this requires a security clearance and a skytrain ride. Is that correct?
If the flight arrives an hour late (a moderately worst case scenario), is either 30 or 40 mins doable? In such a late arrival case (or worse) in J (and departure in J on same PNR), will LH do anything to expedite other than using fast track security?
Inbound on LH901 from LHR. The status page has said it arrived at B24A on the last 3 days
Outbound on LH736/740 to KIX/NGO. These flights have departed from Z50 and Z58 recently.
My understanding is this requires a security clearance and a skytrain ride. Is that correct?
If the flight arrives an hour late (a moderately worst case scenario), is either 30 or 40 mins doable? In such a late arrival case (or worse) in J (and departure in J on same PNR), will LH do anything to expedite other than using fast track security?
Feb 19, 2019, 11:16 pm
#5090
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: LH M&M, BA EC, DL SM
Posts: 5,626
FRA is always good for a surprise:
there is now a bus from Z to non-Schengen B (B20-62). Has that been around for long?
Probably not, as the signs still look kind on improvised:
If it is there to stay, it could be added to the wiki.
there is now a bus from Z to non-Schengen B (B20-62). Has that been around for long?
Probably not, as the signs still look kind on improvised:
If it is there to stay, it could be added to the wiki.
Feb 20, 2019, 1:16 am
#5091
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It’s certainly an improvement but I’d also like to see a clean transfer from B non-Schengen to A/Z. This would be more difficult as passengers are “unclean” as soon as they step off an aircraft in B at present regardless of their origin.
Feb 20, 2019, 1:30 am
#5092
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Hi All, just want to double check my understanding on this one:
Inbound on LH901 from LHR. The status page has said it arrived at B24A on the last 3 days
Outbound on LH736/740 to KIX/NGO. These flights have departed from Z50 and Z58 recently.
My understanding is this requires a security clearance and a skytrain ride. Is that correct?
If the flight arrives an hour late (a moderately worst case scenario), is either 30 or 40 mins doable? In such a late arrival case (or worse) in J (and departure in J on same PNR), will LH do anything to expedite other than using fast track security?
Inbound on LH901 from LHR. The status page has said it arrived at B24A on the last 3 days
Outbound on LH736/740 to KIX/NGO. These flights have departed from Z50 and Z58 recently.
My understanding is this requires a security clearance and a skytrain ride. Is that correct?
If the flight arrives an hour late (a moderately worst case scenario), is either 30 or 40 mins doable? In such a late arrival case (or worse) in J (and departure in J on same PNR), will LH do anything to expedite other than using fast track security?
However the good news is yesterday and today at least LH901 arrived at AEUW which is a bus gate at the bottom of A/Z which allows passengers to enter the terminal behind security. If you arrive at AEUW you can just go upstairs to Z without having to clear security (or passport control).
Feb 20, 2019, 2:23 am
#5093
Join Date: Feb 2013
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Thanks for the report and the photo. This was mentioned at least a couple of times upthread (posts 4592 and 4921) but it sounded like a temporary arrangement. Was there any indication how often the bus operated and at what time of the day?
It’s certainly an improvement but I’d also like to see a clean transfer from B non-Schengen to A/Z. This would be more difficult as passengers are “unclean” as soon as they step off an aircraft in B at present regardless of their origin.
It’s certainly an improvement but I’d also like to see a clean transfer from B non-Schengen to A/Z. This would be more difficult as passengers are “unclean” as soon as they step off an aircraft in B at present regardless of their origin.
Feb 23, 2019, 2:40 pm
#5094
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Krakow
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Arrive 6:15 from jnb ... 7:00 to waw
Amex have booked this connection in fra for me
seems a little unrealistic, off a long haul, passport control, security and next flight
Any real life experience of this connection?
inbound is SA, outbound is LO
will it ne B to B?
seems a little unrealistic, off a long haul, passport control, security and next flight
Any real life experience of this connection?
inbound is SA, outbound is LO
will it ne B to B?
Feb 23, 2019, 3:11 pm
#5095
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MCT for this connection is 0:45, so it's a legal but extremely tight connection. Unless your flight into FRA is scheduled to arrive early I would expect to be rebooked to a later flight FRA-WAW if you happen to misconnect in FRA. The next flights to WAW leave at 10:35 (LO) and 12:25 (LH) [I just checked the schedule for this upcoming Monday].
Feb 23, 2019, 3:15 pm
#5096
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Very tight but not necessarily impossible & you should be rebooked to next flight if it fails.
Feb 23, 2019, 3:36 pm
#5097
Join Date: Oct 2014
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Arrive 6:15 from jnb ... 7:00 to waw
Amex have booked this connection in fra for me
seems a little unrealistic, off a long haul, passport control, security and next flight
Any real life experience of this connection?
inbound is SA, outbound is LO
will it ne B to B?
seems a little unrealistic, off a long haul, passport control, security and next flight
Any real life experience of this connection?
inbound is SA, outbound is LO
will it ne B to B?
Feb 23, 2019, 3:37 pm
#5098
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Posts: 11,551
I think LO is very often a bus. I've seen the flight a number of times in FRA and it was at a remote stand, or in Lufthansa speak "outside position".
Feb 23, 2019, 6:00 pm
#5099
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Heraklion, Greece
Posts: 7,564
MCT for this connection is 0:45, so it's a legal but extremely tight connection. Unless your flight into FRA is scheduled to arrive early I would expect to be rebooked to a later flight FRA-WAW if you happen to misconnect in FRA. The next flights to WAW leave at 10:35 (LO) and 12:25 (LH) [I just checked the schedule for this upcoming Monday].
Feb 24, 2019, 2:22 am
#5100
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 74
Transfer from Schengen A gates to C gates at FRA
Hello there,
Please how long will take a transfer from Schengen A gates to C gates at FRA? Arriving from Prague by Lufthansa (assuming a bus gate in Pier A) and connecting to an intercontinental flight to Muscat by Oman Air (as a Lufthansa partner assuming gates C13-16)?
How long will take a passport control and security check?
Thank you in advance.
Please how long will take a transfer from Schengen A gates to C gates at FRA? Arriving from Prague by Lufthansa (assuming a bus gate in Pier A) and connecting to an intercontinental flight to Muscat by Oman Air (as a Lufthansa partner assuming gates C13-16)?
How long will take a passport control and security check?
Thank you in advance.