Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Aug 17, 2018, 9:50 pm
#4786
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The only way to stay inside security between A and B is the tunnel? I thought the Skyline train also ran between A and B inside security.
Last edited by EQDsSUCK; Aug 17, 2018 at 10:23 pm
Aug 18, 2018, 12:47 am
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Aug 18, 2018, 1:19 am
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But we are discussing the minutiae of the process of connecting in FRA which might confuse occasional passengers who go through the airport.
Aug 18, 2018, 5:52 am
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Yes, the tunnel is behind security but in the Schengen area of the airport. The Skyline train is outside security and has separate Schengen and non-Schengen carriages.
But we are discussing the minutiae of the process of connecting in FRA which might confuse occasional passengers who go through the airport.
But we are discussing the minutiae of the process of connecting in FRA which might confuse occasional passengers who go through the airport.
Oh, well the Frankfurt airport website uses confusing wording if Skyline train is outside of security. It says: "SkyLine operates between Terminal 1B and Terminal 1A/Z in both the public and transit areas. In the time of 05:00 - 13:00 is also a bus replacement traffic available." I took "transit area" to mean behind security.
Aug 18, 2018, 6:00 am
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Oh, well the Frankfurt airport website uses confusing wording if Skyline train is outside of security. It says: "SkyLine operates between Terminal 1B and Terminal 1A/Z in both the public and transit areas. In the time of 05:00 - 13:00 is also a bus replacement traffic available." I took "transit area" to mean behind security.
Aug 18, 2018, 6:02 am
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AEUW is a bus arrival gate. A plane arrives at a remote stand and passengers are taken to AEUW by bus. AEUW is a label given to some A gates on the lower level of A concourse (see the second page of these maps) when they are used as non-Schengen bus arrival gates.
Aug 18, 2018, 6:05 am
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Ah, thanks for the explanation! So once you enter Schengen/Germany, you cannot take the Skyline train between B and A/Z inside of security? Got it!
Aug 19, 2018, 3:00 am
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Yes, correct.
Aug 19, 2018, 9:09 pm
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Aug 23, 2018, 11:26 am
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Hey FT! Me again lol.
on aug 25 I’ll be flying CDG > FRA > DTW > YYZ.
CDG > FRA is LH1051
FRA > DTW is LH442
does anyone know what gate area “ASO” would be for landing in FRA, and connecting to (what I assume is) a Z gate for my next segment? Any information I need for security or bypassing lines? My connection time is only an hour (kind of crazy that they let you book this stuff...).
If it matters, I’m flying business. And my last segment is with AC.
on aug 25 I’ll be flying CDG > FRA > DTW > YYZ.
CDG > FRA is LH1051
FRA > DTW is LH442
does anyone know what gate area “ASO” would be for landing in FRA, and connecting to (what I assume is) a Z gate for my next segment? Any information I need for security or bypassing lines? My connection time is only an hour (kind of crazy that they let you book this stuff...).
If it matters, I’m flying business. And my last segment is with AC.
Aug 23, 2018, 11:44 am
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Hey FT! Me again lol.
on aug 25 I’ll be flying CDG > FRA > DTW > YYZ.
CDG > FRA is LH1051
FRA > DTW is LH442
does anyone know what gate area “ASO” would be for landing in FRA, and connecting to (what I assume is) a Z gate for my next segment? Any information I need for security or bypassing lines? My connection time is only an hour (kind of crazy that they let you book this stuff...).
If it matters, I’m flying business. And my last segment is with AC.
on aug 25 I’ll be flying CDG > FRA > DTW > YYZ.
CDG > FRA is LH1051
FRA > DTW is LH442
does anyone know what gate area “ASO” would be for landing in FRA, and connecting to (what I assume is) a Z gate for my next segment? Any information I need for security or bypassing lines? My connection time is only an hour (kind of crazy that they let you book this stuff...).
If it matters, I’m flying business. And my last segment is with AC.
Aug 24, 2018, 7:07 pm
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SO, WHAT HAPPENED????
Welp, here is the conclusion.
As, I said, we got my parents the 90 Euro Guide service with cart for the FRA 65 minute transfer. The night before the flight, they were scheduled to arrive at a dock and bus to an A gate. And they were scheduled to leave from an A gate. I wondered if we were wasting 90 Euros. But I knew the uncertainty of the airport and had seen lots of gate changes.
When they took off from Dallas, they were still scheduled to arrive in terminal A and fly out of terminal A.
Lo and behold, when they landed in Frankfurt, they gated at Terminal B! They were met by an airport guide with a cart and taken to Passport Control. They were taken to the front of the line and arrived smoothly into the Schengen zone. Then they were taken to Security, and again they were taken to the front of the line and got right though security. Then straight to the gate and boarded the plane.
Thanks to those who went through this exercise with me and helped me reach a good decision!
Welp, here is the conclusion.
As, I said, we got my parents the 90 Euro Guide service with cart for the FRA 65 minute transfer. The night before the flight, they were scheduled to arrive at a dock and bus to an A gate. And they were scheduled to leave from an A gate. I wondered if we were wasting 90 Euros. But I knew the uncertainty of the airport and had seen lots of gate changes.
When they took off from Dallas, they were still scheduled to arrive in terminal A and fly out of terminal A.
Lo and behold, when they landed in Frankfurt, they gated at Terminal B! They were met by an airport guide with a cart and taken to Passport Control. They were taken to the front of the line and arrived smoothly into the Schengen zone. Then they were taken to Security, and again they were taken to the front of the line and got right though security. Then straight to the gate and boarded the plane.
Thanks to those who went through this exercise with me and helped me reach a good decision!
Aug 24, 2018, 9:16 pm
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"ASO" is a bus gate at the bottom of A concourse. You have to go through exit passport control but no security to get to a Z gate. IIRC there is a priority lane for Business and First Class passengers and your departure gate if it remains Z15 is not far from the central area (or duty free shops) where you enter Z concourse. One hour should be fine as long as your incoming flight is not late.
Gotta keep my wits about me, and move fast when I land.
So far no updated gate information for arrival, but I think I should be okay!
Aug 25, 2018, 3:36 am
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90€ for 2pax with such a service is a bargain. Glad it all went smoothly!
Aug 25, 2018, 5:00 am
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Thanks for reporting back. It's always good to hear what exactly happened on the day. ^
The Gate to Gate Service must be popular if it was sold out on the day but the Guide Service you booked for your parents sounds like just the thing for them. I'm glad it's worked out well and your parents were able to catch their flight to TLL.
The Gate to Gate Service must be popular if it was sold out on the day but the Guide Service you booked for your parents sounds like just the thing for them. I'm glad it's worked out well and your parents were able to catch their flight to TLL.
