Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Mar 17, 2018, 8:07 am
#4441
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Hello guys, this is my first post (question) in the LH forum. Will be visiting FRA soon with QR067, landing at 13:20 in the afternoon. I was wondering if I should book a domestic flight with LH to Munich. Assuming QR is willing to check through my bags to MUC, may I seek your expert opinion the minimum connecting time in FRA? Would the LH flight of 16:15 be alright? Thank you so much.
Mar 17, 2018, 1:53 pm
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Hello guys, this is my first post (question) in the LH forum. Will be visiting FRA soon with QR067, landing at 13:20 in the afternoon. I was wondering if I should book a domestic flight with LH to Munich. Assuming QR is willing to check through my bags to MUC, may I seek your expert opinion the minimum connecting time in FRA? Would the LH flight of 16:15 be alright? Thank you so much.
If you're on separate tickets, you shouldn't count on QR through-checking your bags. Also, with separate tickets there is no "connection" (or minimum connection time) and you may end up having to buy a new ticket if the QR flight is delayed and you miss the FRA-MUC flight (or if you have to retrieve your bag at FRA and miss the bag drop-off time for the FRA-MUC flight).
If it's on one ticket, the MCT is 60 minutes and a 3-hour connection should be "safe". In worst case they'd put you on the next flight to MUC if there's a delay causing you to miss the 16:15 flight.
Mar 18, 2018, 2:53 am
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Separate tickets or on the same ticket?
If you're on separate tickets, you shouldn't count on QR through-checking your bags. Also, with separate tickets there is no "connection" (or minimum connection time) and you may end up having to buy a new ticket if the QR flight is delayed and you miss the FRA-MUC flight (or if you have to retrieve your bag at FRA and miss the bag drop-off time for the FRA-MUC flight).
If it's on one ticket, the MCT is 60 minutes and a 3-hour connection should be "safe". In worst case they'd put you on the next flight to MUC if there's a delay causing you to miss the 16:15 flight.
If you're on separate tickets, you shouldn't count on QR through-checking your bags. Also, with separate tickets there is no "connection" (or minimum connection time) and you may end up having to buy a new ticket if the QR flight is delayed and you miss the FRA-MUC flight (or if you have to retrieve your bag at FRA and miss the bag drop-off time for the FRA-MUC flight).
If it's on one ticket, the MCT is 60 minutes and a 3-hour connection should be "safe". In worst case they'd put you on the next flight to MUC if there's a delay causing you to miss the 16:15 flight.
Mar 18, 2018, 4:27 am
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Hi again - another quick question. Where about do passengers arriving at the AEUW bus gate enter the terminal Is it close to the A-B tunnel?
Mar 18, 2018, 5:10 am
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A flexible train fare in second class/coach is EUR 105 ow. Obviously, non-flex train tickets would be cheaper but then again you need to leave a buffer. I think if LH ticket prices are reasonable on your date of travel, I'd take my chances and fly FRA-MUC. In the worst-case scenario in which you don't make the connection, you can still buy a train ticket. The walk-up fare is, once again, EUR 105 and they don't stop selling tickets if trains are crowded.*
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* There's a small chance discounted tickets are still available when you walk up to the counter in which case the cost of the train ticket is less than EUR 105.
Mar 18, 2018, 5:42 am
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Looking at the history of QR67, it seems reasonably punctual. I think if you leave a three-hour window between flights, the risk of missing the connection is reasonably small.
A flexible train fare in second class/coach is EUR 105 ow. Obviously, non-flex train tickets would be cheaper but then again you need to leave a buffer. I think if LH ticket prices are reasonable on your date of travel, I'd take my chances and fly FRA-MUC. In the worst-case scenario in which you don't make the connection, you can still buy a train ticket. The walk-up fare is, once again, EUR 105 and they don't stop selling tickets if trains are crowded.*
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* There's a small chance discounted tickets are still available when you walk up to the counter in which case the cost of the train ticket is less than EUR 105.
A flexible train fare in second class/coach is EUR 105 ow. Obviously, non-flex train tickets would be cheaper but then again you need to leave a buffer. I think if LH ticket prices are reasonable on your date of travel, I'd take my chances and fly FRA-MUC. In the worst-case scenario in which you don't make the connection, you can still buy a train ticket. The walk-up fare is, once again, EUR 105 and they don't stop selling tickets if trains are crowded.*
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* There's a small chance discounted tickets are still available when you walk up to the counter in which case the cost of the train ticket is less than EUR 105.
Mar 18, 2018, 10:16 am
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The AEUW bus arrivals are at street level, where the two parts of A/Z meet, adjacent to the A6-A10 bus gates. To get to the tunnel, you will have to go up to departure level, cross the atrium last the C and F lounges and walk along the “olds part of A for a short stretch to the elevator at A15
it certainly is not far, maybe 150 m.
it certainly is not far, maybe 150 m.
Mar 18, 2018, 10:55 am
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The AEUW bus arrivals are at street level, where the two parts of A/Z meet, adjacent to the A6-A10 bus gates. To get to the tunnel, you will have to go up to departure level, cross the atrium last the C and F lounges and walk along the “olds part of A for a short stretch to the elevator at A15
it certainly is not far, maybe 150 m.
The AEUW bus arrivals are at street level, where the two parts of A/Z meet, adjacent to the A6-A10 bus gates. To get to the tunnel, you will have to go up to departure level, cross the atrium last the C and F lounges and walk along the “olds part of A for a short stretch to the elevator at A15
it certainly is not far, maybe 150 m.
Mar 18, 2018, 12:20 pm
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The AEUW bus arrivals are at street level, where the two parts of A/Z meet, adjacent to the A6-A10 bus gates. To get to the tunnel, you will have to go up to departure level, cross the atrium last the C and F lounges and walk along the “olds part of A for a short stretch to the elevator at A15
it certainly is not far, maybe 150 m.
it certainly is not far, maybe 150 m.
Mar 21, 2018, 9:19 am
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Using the Wiki
How do I use the data in the wiki?
I have a flight inbound from TXL into FRA (LH) with a connection to another LH for SFO. Its a 45 minute connection. That seems too short given its a domestic-international switch and likely needing to clear immigration etc.
I have a flight inbound from TXL into FRA (LH) with a connection to another LH for SFO. Its a 45 minute connection. That seems too short given its a domestic-international switch and likely needing to clear immigration etc.
Mar 21, 2018, 9:32 am
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You will likely go from an A gate to Z gate, but will have to go through passport control to exit Schengen area.
There will also be a security question/passport check at the gate.
Last edited by UAPremExecflyer; Mar 23, 2018 at 5:50 am Reason: Corrected to reflect OP was leaving Schengen area
Mar 21, 2018, 9:45 am
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The OP is connecting to SFO, so has to go through passport control when exiting Schengen
Mar 21, 2018, 2:12 pm
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Not sure what the OP means by using the wiki but the MCT simply means the airline is willing to sell you a ticket with a transfer time of 60 minutes, 45 minutes, etc. It does not guarantee that you will make the connection. If I were making this connection I would choose an earlier flight from TXL.
Mar 23, 2018, 5:48 am
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