Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Feb 14, 2018, 11:22 am
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MCT is 45 minutes.
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
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Minimum Connect Times: Connecting at FRA Incoming airline LH Outgoing airline LH Flight type Domestic to Domestic STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I. ONLINE .45 .45 .45 .45 OFFLINE .45 .45 .45 .45
I booked the flight via Amex Travel. I'm wondering now.... will I have protection for the 2nd segment?
Feb 14, 2018, 3:33 pm
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Yes, if it is all one one ticket you will be protected in case of a misconnect. A 0h45 D/D (Schengen) connection at FRA should be no problem if the first flight is on time.
Feb 14, 2018, 3:42 pm
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This is most probably A to A. And it could also involve one or two bus rides. Buses require more time and they do drop you at the main area of the A pier. Still even a bus to bus connection would be possible in 45 min although it would leave no time for shopping or a visit to the lounge.
Feb 16, 2018, 5:50 am
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No issue if on a single ticket. If is a connection at the MCT and you will be protected & rebooked to the next available flight should you miss your connecting flight.
This is most probably A to A. And it could also involve one or two bus rides. Buses require more time and they do drop you at the main area of the A pier. Still even a bus to bus connection would be possible in 45 min although it would leave no time for shopping or a visit to the lounge.
I have a 4 hour layover in MUC on the return trip so there'll be plenty of time for that on the way back.
Feb 26, 2018, 2:52 am
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Hey all:
Inbound on award F ticket on SQ25 from JFK scheduled to arrive at 9:50, outbound on paid Y on LH904 to LHR scheduled to depart at 11:00. When I spoke with the Singapore’s phone agents, they said that minimum connection time is 1 hour which matches what I saw online.
Looking at FlightAware, it looks like both are at the B gates. Will I need to go through security?
I might end up wanting to check a bag; do you all expect that to be an issue?
Inbound on award F ticket on SQ25 from JFK scheduled to arrive at 9:50, outbound on paid Y on LH904 to LHR scheduled to depart at 11:00. When I spoke with the Singapore’s phone agents, they said that minimum connection time is 1 hour which matches what I saw online.
Looking at FlightAware, it looks like both are at the B gates. Will I need to go through security?
I might end up wanting to check a bag; do you all expect that to be an issue?
Feb 26, 2018, 4:22 am
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Hey all:
Inbound on award F ticket on SQ25 from JFK scheduled to arrive at 9:50, outbound on paid Y on LH904 to LHR scheduled to depart at 11:00. When I spoke with the Singapore’s phone agents, they said that minimum connection time is 1 hour which matches what I saw online.
Looking at FlightAware, it looks like both are at the B gates. Will I need to go through security?
I might end up wanting to check a bag; do you all expect that to be an issue?
Inbound on award F ticket on SQ25 from JFK scheduled to arrive at 9:50, outbound on paid Y on LH904 to LHR scheduled to depart at 11:00. When I spoke with the Singapore’s phone agents, they said that minimum connection time is 1 hour which matches what I saw online.
Looking at FlightAware, it looks like both are at the B gates. Will I need to go through security?
I might end up wanting to check a bag; do you all expect that to be an issue?
Make sure to check a bag through to LHR. The connection is too tight if you have to retrieve your bag and re-check.
Feb 26, 2018, 4:33 am
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Hey all:
Inbound on award F ticket on SQ25 from JFK scheduled to arrive at 9:50, outbound on paid Y on LH904 to LHR scheduled to depart at 11:00. When I spoke with the Singapore’s phone agents, they said that minimum connection time is 1 hour which matches what I saw online.
Looking at FlightAware, it looks like both are at the B gates. Will I need to go through security?
I might end up wanting to check a bag; do you all expect that to be an issue?
Inbound on award F ticket on SQ25 from JFK scheduled to arrive at 9:50, outbound on paid Y on LH904 to LHR scheduled to depart at 11:00. When I spoke with the Singapore’s phone agents, they said that minimum connection time is 1 hour which matches what I saw online.
Looking at FlightAware, it looks like both are at the B gates. Will I need to go through security?
I might end up wanting to check a bag; do you all expect that to be an issue?
SQ will check your bag(s) through on separate tickets/PNRs Singapore policy on interlining on separate tickets
Feb 26, 2018, 1:36 pm
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You are not connecting. You are travelling on two separate tickets. If your inbound SQ flight is on-time you should be ok. But if it is delayed, LH will regard you as a no-show and you will have likely have to pay a penalty and/or buy a new ticket to LHR.
SQ will check your bag(s) through on separate tickets/PNRs Singapore policy on interlining on separate tickets
SQ will check your bag(s) through on separate tickets/PNRs Singapore policy on interlining on separate tickets
Edit: TY for the advice!
Feb 26, 2018, 3:32 pm
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Feb 27, 2018, 5:01 am
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(LH) Worried about MCT
Hello everyone,
I need your help.
I just booked award tickets with Aeroplan last night and this morning I realized something that might cause issues.
We're leaving on LH471 (YYZ - FRA), and then getting on LH988 (FRA - AMS).
LH471 gets to FRA at 8 am and LH988 leaves FRA at 9:05 am. In theory the switch meets the MCT, however, when I looked at the stats, LH471 is constantly delayed by usually 40 minutes or so.
I don't mind running through the immigration, and the terminal to catch LH988, but if it does get delayed, I don't think there is any chance our luggage will make it to AMS with us.
Question:
In terms of Lufthansa, is their priority to get the passengers on the plane, regardless if their luggage makes it or not, or would they consider all these factors and just bump us to the next available flight to AMS (we don't mind taking the next flight).
I don't think it matters, but we're flying in J.
Thanks in advance for your help.
I need your help.
I just booked award tickets with Aeroplan last night and this morning I realized something that might cause issues.
We're leaving on LH471 (YYZ - FRA), and then getting on LH988 (FRA - AMS).
LH471 gets to FRA at 8 am and LH988 leaves FRA at 9:05 am. In theory the switch meets the MCT, however, when I looked at the stats, LH471 is constantly delayed by usually 40 minutes or so.
I don't mind running through the immigration, and the terminal to catch LH988, but if it does get delayed, I don't think there is any chance our luggage will make it to AMS with us.
Question:
In terms of Lufthansa, is their priority to get the passengers on the plane, regardless if their luggage makes it or not, or would they consider all these factors and just bump us to the next available flight to AMS (we don't mind taking the next flight).
I don't think it matters, but we're flying in J.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Feb 27, 2018, 5:09 am
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65 min in FRA is tight but doable. Your luggage will most likely make it. FRA is set up to be a transit hub...
Feb 27, 2018, 5:34 am
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I guess what I am trying to find out is how much delayed the first flight need to be, before they put me on the next flight.
This is our honeymoon and we really need our luggage as we are in AMS for barely 2 days and then heading towards Asia.
Mar 11, 2018, 5:46 pm
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Question on the following connection.
Arriving at FRA from IAH on UA at 11:40 connecting to LH 1436 to LED at 13:35 on a Wednesday. If the flight to LED departs from the B gates, is best to use the tunnel from the Z/A gates to B and do the passport check twice or ride the Skytrain to the B gates and clear security?
Arriving at FRA from IAH on UA at 11:40 connecting to LH 1436 to LED at 13:35 on a Wednesday. If the flight to LED departs from the B gates, is best to use the tunnel from the Z/A gates to B and do the passport check twice or ride the Skytrain to the B gates and clear security?
Mar 12, 2018, 10:57 am
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Question on the following connection.
Arriving at FRA from IAH on UA at 11:40 connecting to LH 1436 to LED at 13:35 on a Wednesday. If the flight to LED departs from the B gates, is best to use the tunnel from the Z/A gates to B and do the passport check twice or ride the Skytrain to the B gates and clear security?
Arriving at FRA from IAH on UA at 11:40 connecting to LH 1436 to LED at 13:35 on a Wednesday. If the flight to LED departs from the B gates, is best to use the tunnel from the Z/A gates to B and do the passport check twice or ride the Skytrain to the B gates and clear security?
Last week on a weekday I arrived in Z (arrival level) soon after 11am, cleared security in Z, went through passport control (e-gate) into A and later through the tunnel and passport control (e-gate again) into B with no wait at all.
Whichever route you take you should make the connection without any problem.
Mar 12, 2018, 11:15 am
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It’s a difficult question to answer. If you have a biometric passport and can use e-gates I’d go though the tunnel. If you can’t use e-gates or priority passport control (for *G and premium class passengers) I’d follow the official route and take the Skyline train.
Thanks. I do have *G status but my traveling companion won't be able to use the priority lane.
Last week on a weekday I arrived in Z (arrival level) soon after 11am, cleared security in Z, went through passport control (e-gate) into A and later through the tunnel and passport control (e-gate again) into B with no wait at all.
Understood. Will I have to clear security in Z as well? I was assuming it would be a passport check in A and then to the tunnel then passport check again in B.
Whichever route you take you should make the connection without any problem.
Thanks. I do have *G status but my traveling companion won't be able to use the priority lane.
Last week on a weekday I arrived in Z (arrival level) soon after 11am, cleared security in Z, went through passport control (e-gate) into A and later through the tunnel and passport control (e-gate again) into B with no wait at all.
Understood. Will I have to clear security in Z as well? I was assuming it would be a passport check in A and then to the tunnel then passport check again in B.
Whichever route you take you should make the connection without any problem.